Egyptair Flight MS804 Data Recorder Is Recovered

from NBC

The second “black box” has been retrieved from the wreckage of crashed Egyptair Flight MS804, investigators said Friday.

The Egyptian Aircraft Accident Investigation Committee said in a statement that the plane’s flight data recorder was recovered and is being taken to the coastal city of Alexandria where it will be handed over to experts for analysis.

The announcement came a day after the doomed jet’s cockpit voice recorder was recovered.

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Egyptair MS804 and Malaysian Airlines MH370: Is Something Dreadfully Wrong with the Arleigh Burke-class Guided Missile System?

by Scott Creighton (H/T Anon and Tim)

Yesterday I wrote about Navy.mil removing an article from their website which detailed an Africom navel exercise that was taking place when Egyptair Flight MS804 went down in the same location it disappeared. Readers have pointed out that the article is back up on the Navy website with a different posting date and article number along with a rather remarkable edit.

After having a look at the new version of the official story from the Navy and comparing what happened with Flight MS804 to Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370, it occurs to me that there may actually be something very wrong with the missile guidance systems on our Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers and someone may be trying to avoid having a meddlesome researcher figure it out.

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Egyptair MS804: US Navy Removed Page on Phoenix Express from Website

by Scott Creighton

UPDATE: Even more interesting. Readers have pointed out that the article is back up on the Navy website with a different posting date and article number along with a rather remarkable edit. Please see UPDATE at end of article.

This is interesting.

The US Navy has removed the Phoenix Express page from their website.

Here’s a screenshot of their search page. You can see the article they had up talking about how the Phoenix Express drills in the Mediterranean Sea had begun. This is the same article I used as a source in my first article about the drill.

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And here is what that links to now.

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Gone. History. Down the rabbit hole. That’s not suspicious, now is it?

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Egyptair Flight MS804 : Expert Says Rapid Decompression Might Have Set Off Smoke Detectors

by Scott Creighton

UPDATE:It looks like the right front and side windows were blown out, most probably from inside out,” European airline pilot

Just a short note.

The MSM is focusing solely on the ACARS report that smoke detectors went off in two locations right behind and underneath the cockpit just before the plane made a “jerky and sudden” 90 deg turn to the left and then plummeted into the Mediterranean Sea. They claim this means either a terrorist attack inside the plane or a mechanical malfunction caused a fire on-board and that is what brought down Egyptair Flight MS804.

As is usually the case with the MSM, that is not entirely accurate.

Turns out, sudden decompression can cause smoke detectors to go off on a plane.

The Telegraph reports that the signals likely indicate an internal explosion that could have blown out windows from the inside out and started a fire on board. An external explosion, like the missile that brought down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, would have caused more alarms to trigger.

Although industry analyst Robert W. Mann tells The New York Times that a fire onboard was not necessarily the only way to cause the automated messages.  “The messages could also have been prompted by rapid decompression of the aircraft, which can produce condensation that the plane’s sensors could mistake for smoke,” Mr. Mann said” CS Monitor

Notice what the Telegraph did? They deliberately tried to undermine the theory that the plane could have been hit by a missile like Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17. I wonder why they would do that.

Well, they would probably do that because more and more the information we are getting is making it look like a missile brought down Flight MS804 and not “terrorism” or a mechanical failure of some kind.

Rapid decompression could have caused those sensors to go off and the fact that they were both located near the cockpit says a lot, especially when you consider what happened with Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17. Here’s a little visual aid to help you guys remember.

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Egyptair Flight MS804 : ACARS Data Shows Blown Out Windows in Cockpit – Shades of Flight MH17?

by Scott Creighton

The French have produced some new ACARS data regarding the crash of Flight MS804. The information is being seized upon by the MSM in order to show the downing of the flight was a slower moving process than originally thought. To this end, they harp on the smoke detectors going off near the cockpit. What they fail to mention is the extremely interesting fact that two windows in the cockpit seem to have been broken or opened. Why is that interesting? Well, does MH17 ring any bells?

animation from investigation of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17. BUK missile (probably from Ukraine military) targets cockpit

I think it is safe too say, the crew did not decide to open the windows for some fresh air at 37,000 ft. Could be that something detonated in the avionics compartment below the cockpit, but that remains to be seen.

What follows is the original ACARS data from the source as well as a description of what each warning means.

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Was Pilot of Egyptair Flight MS804 “Beaming” When He Suddenly Turned 90 Deg Left?

by Scott Creighton

We don’t know much about what happened to Egyptair Flight MS804 except for the fact that it is gone and authorities still don’t know why.

Earlier I posted information about a naval exercises drill taking place in the exact location where Flight MS804 suddenly went off radar.

Later yesterday, Greek authorities released a little more detail about what happened with the plane’s recorded flight path. It seems they turned suddenly 90 degrees to the left then turned hard to the right 360 degrees while descending at a very rapid rate until they dropped off radar coverage.

Here is a graphic showing what was reported by Greek authorities.

I hypothesized that the pilot may have been trying to avoid an approaching missile and that would explain why such drastic maneuvers were made.

This morning I decided to see if there was any technique that might resemble these last actions of the pilot and the plane. This is what I found:

“If the missile is closer, you will have to narrow the energy gap using geometry. Remember that the missile is flying a lead-pursuit course. It’s always going to point out towards where it thinks you will be at the time of impact. If you beam the missile (turn 90° towards its heading) and accelerate to a high speed, it’s going to point very far to the left or right of your location — especially if it is still far away. Make a 180° turn to beam in the opposite direction, and the missile will have to drag itself all the way around to point in the other direction. This maneuver uses up valuable energy that could otherwise be spent gliding a longer distance.

By performing this beam reverse maneuver, you force the missile to bleed as much energy as possible turning left and right to maintain its proportional navigation course.

Beaming the missile also increases the chance that the missile’s radar will drop lock, due to the Doppler notchQuora.com

In this case, after being locked on by an air-to-air missile, the pilot would attempt to break lock by turning into the oncoming missile which forces it to correct it’s path, moving hard left or right in order to regain lock on the flight path ahead of the target. Then the pilot (if I understand this correctly) turns abruptly once again, in the opposite direction, 180 degrees in an attempt to break the missile lock and force it to use as much fuel as possible to reacquire and close on the plane due to Doppler Notch.

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Egyptair Flight MS804: Fake Fireball Video Used to Discredit Eyewitness Reports

by Scott Creighton

Early into the investigation of what happened 33 hours ago to Egyptair Flight MS804, reports came out from a variety of sources that folks saw something burning in the skies above the Mediterranean Sea right about the time the commercial flight went off the radar with 66 people on board.

The most prominent of these stories came from the captain of a merchant ship. But there were others.

“The AFP news agency reports confirmation from a Greek aviation source that the EgyptAir plane crashed off the island of Karpathos. The captain of a merchant ship in the area had reported seeing a ‘flame’ in the sky and marine traffic monitors showed civilian vessels joining a search in the area.” Guardian

This eyewitness testimony seems to fit the current prescribed narrative from the complicit media that either it was an act of terrorism that brought down the plane or a catastrophic mechanical failure of some kind. It also just happens to fit with my personal theory that the plane was brought down by accident during the ongoing naval drills taking place in that very part of the Mediterranean Sea, Phoenix Express 2016.

However, slowly but surely this eyewitness testimony (like the eyewitness testimony involved with the Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 downing and the TWA Flight 800 tragedy) has been scrubbed from the news cycle completely.

“A recent Flight MH370 news report from The Daily Mail indicated a certain Mike McKay who stands by his claims that he had seen first-hand the “burning wreckage” of the airline crashing into the South China Sea, last year.

“Almost a year has passed, but I stand by what I saw,” the 57-year-old said. “I’ve thought about it and thought about it, over and over and while I cannot say for certain that the burning object in the sky was definitely MH370, the timing fits in with when the Malaysian plane lost contact.”

McKay went on to say that he emailed authorities about what he saw. The action resulted him getting fired from the Songa Mercur oil rig that he had worked at for 30 years. Christian Post


We saw what appeared to be a flare going straight up. As a matter of fact, we thought it was from a boat. It was a bright reddish-orange color. Once it went into flames I knew that it wasn’t a flare.”
Lou Desyron, Flight 800 eye-witness; ABC World News Sunday; 07/21/96.

The reason the media gives for discrediting these new eyewitness’s testimony, and I heard this yesterday, was that what so many people reported seeing was actually a Russian satellite burning as it re-entered earth’s atmosphere, and not Flight MS804 burning as it crashed. I heard that several times yesterday on CNN and MSNBC.

Then I heard, later last night, the talking heads and various “experts” saying they didn’t think the plane broke up in the sky because “no one in the area saw it burning”

Wow. Talk about spin. Obviously, there is a major logical fallacy at play here.

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