5 Eyes Media Warns of “End of Democracy” in Turkey as they Collectively Attack Referendum Results

by Scott Creighton

Looks like the Turkish people voted the wrong way. And we all know how much the Masters of the Universe hate it when people “vote the wrong way”. Expect the 5 Eyed monster to begin full scale “democratization” in the days to come.

Not a year removed from the failed U.S.-backed coup in Turkey (July 15-16, 2016) the country held a referendum that could help prevent another one in the future. The changes in the political structure of the country look to remake their parliamentary system into one more like ours with an executive presidency and parliament serving as something similar to our congress.

The vote was close but the “YES” crowd won and Turkey will begin the transition to a new form of democracy starting in 2019.

Ironically, according to the 5 Eyes Press, this democratic process means the end of democracy in Turkey (see here, here, here, here and here) and the beginning of them having the same system we have. Hmmm.

Immediately the opposition, the Kurds and the NGOs cried “FOUL!” as the globalists lament the fact that this referendum probably means Turkey will never join the E.U. (remember: when Ukraine decided not to join the E.U. President Peace Prize unleashed his Killary dog who set loose the soft-power of the neo-Nazi movement in the country and they staged a color revolution)

They even got a U.N. observer to say since a cop “blocked” their sight-line to a polling station once, the whole thing must have been rigged.

Keep in mind, the opposition is backed by pro-Western monied interests as are the Kurds and the NGO’s who have been funneling aid and terrorists over the border into Syria on behalf of the State Department and the CIA. Those same NGOs have come under fire recently and are worried they are about to be kicked out of the country.

Recently there has been some news about that “democratic” coup we tried to pull off in Turkey almost a year ago. The developments are interesting too say the least.

Some followers of Muslim leader and businessman Fethullah Gulen were involved in last summer’s failed coup in Turkey, a UK Parliament report says, adding that there is no evidence to suggest the Gulen Movement as a whole was behind the plot.”  al Jazeera

So there were Gulenists involved in the coup. What a shock. At the time the MSM refused to believe any such thing and complicit, phony alternative media types floated the possibility that it was Erdogan and the dreaded “RUSSIA!” that did it. But, as time moved on, Gulenists were found in the mix of the plotters.

I wonder who else had a hand in “democracy promotion” last year in Turkey?

“A Turkish prosecutor has opened an investigation into 17 people accused of fomenting last year’s failed coup, including many prominent American officials, academics and politicians, state news media reported on Saturday.

Among those placed under investigation by the chief prosecutor in Istanbul are John O. Brennan, the former C.I.A. chief; Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York; Preet Bharara, the former United States attorney for the Southern District of New York; and David Cohen, who at the time of the coup was the deputy director of the C.I.A., according to the Anadolu Agency, a state-run news wire.” New York Times

Imagine that. The CIA implicated in a coup to install a West-friendly businessman.

Interestingly, Schumer was exposed in this for taking millions from Gulen to serve his interests in New York and across the globe. Of course we all know Chuck is the new leader of the unDemocratic Party in our “democratic” system over here.

The 5 Eyes Media (H/T Penny) are steadily feeding their brain-dead viewers a full buffet of conspiracy theories today regarding the illegitimacy of yesterday’s referendum results. A couple of them mention the 3 deaths that occurred during the voting process without letting you know it was the Kurds who killed people trying to prevent the referendum from taking place. They do that because their want their viewers to assume it was Erdogan cracking down on “NO” voters.

Fake news is often a subtle omission of one key fact in a story. Happens all the time with the 5 Eyes Press.

The glorious Kurds are the main opposition to the change in the constitution because they know it will make it harder for them to get help from the U.S. to bust off a piece of Turkey for their Greater Kurdistan project.

The referendum vote seals the deal for the Masters of the Universe. They can’t have Turkey exercising anything like self determination right now so it seems the “birth pangs of a New Middle East” haven’t yet subsided within that country.

I expect another full scale color revolution ala Ukraine in the next few weeks starting up in Turkey. There are pipelines and Greater Kurdistan to think about.

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26 Responses

  1. It boggles the mind how so many so-called “advocates of justice” could jump on the bandwagon of giving a sovereign state such unfair treatment, with little or no evidence to support their demonization. They’d screech like puppies, but the right thing would be for many mainstream/alternative commentators to be held partly responsible for the coup last year, and any possible color revolution. “Own up to your acts like real men!”

  2. Hi Scott. Since last night, I have been trying to find a way to post something here that would not induce a strong reaction from you that I have experienced in the past. Not because I am worried or scared that I would piss you off, but more because I would genuinely like to have a discussion with you, and anyone else here who’d care to join.

    You display such a flare for nuances in general, that I am failing to understand the black/white up/down attitude you have about Erdogan, Turkish politics, and yesterday’s referendum.

    There is no doubt that the 5eye globalists have grand designs on Turkey. There is no doubt that they are scheming to bring Erdogan down to eventually open the path for their next generation puppet to be installed in his place. There is no doubt that the US was involved in the “failed coup” in August. But, none of this necessarily means that Erdogan himself is the victim and not the benefactor of all of these moves. Or that he and his party have not cheated their way to the 51.5% “victory”…

    You are portraying Erdogan as the spoke in the globalists’ wheels preventing them to move forward, whom they want to get rid of. And, that is exactly what they will eventually do. However, for the time being, he is executing the long plan that the globalists have for the region to a T.

    The plan I speak of is not new, it did not start nor will it end with Erdogan. You can trace it back to the post WWI Treaty of Sevres, or the post Turkish Independence War’s Treaty of Lausanne, and statements made by Woodrow Wilson in his “14 points”, etc. etc. So, the empire has been working towards this end for nearly a century.

    Like every administration since Turkey accepted US protection in order to avoid WWII, Erdogan was brought to power by the US Gladio operartions, and his demise will also be in the hands of Gladio, CIA and the pentagon. But, only when the time is right. For the moment, he has, by hook or by crook, managed to pass a constitution that gives him and any future president unprecedented executive powers. The process is not immediate nor quick. The presidential elections are scheduled to take place in two years, although there is a chance they might move it up to sometime sooner.

    And, contrary to the common belief that the US+Gülen attempted to topple him with the August coup, and that Erdogan purged the “rats” off the military and the judiciary, these conclusions are not supported by the identity and the political affiliation of the “purged” or the identities and affiliations of the people whom he let stay.. Therefore, one needs to tread very carefully when classifying these events and the Erdogan power structure as pro-US or anti-US etc. using a binary and simplistic measuring stick.

    Lastly… There is absolutely, positively, definitely no doubt that the 51.5% victory involves massive (and I do mean massive) and systemic voting fraud by Erdogan and his government, from the local officials, all the way to the head of the Supreme Electoral Council of Turkey.

    • Hey willy- you know there is activist video demonstrating voter fraud, right?
      Of course there would have to be!

      • What does this mean?

        • This means there is one of those oh so convenient activist videos dragged out to push agendas every time
          It’s posted at my blog
          http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2017/04/delegitimizing-turkeys-referendum-would.html

          • and they just happened to record themselves doing it? lol. yeah, you can expect too see this on Morning Joe tomorrow

          • So, you gathered all that you wrote in your article by watching a video you did not understand? That is some quick judgement on your part. So quick, that it gives one the feeling that it was reached even before the referendum.

            There are hundreds of videos, thousands upon thousands of witness accounts of blatant fraud… There are procedural and legal infringements of election law everywhere you look.

            Did you hear the mid-day rule change of the Election Council to accept un-stamped ballots? Did you hear about the 900,000 blank votes found in ballot boxes that were stamped during the count in instances like the one in the video you mention? Heard about the up-to a million syrian refugees fraudulently registered to vote? Or, the threat of being fired that public sector employees received if they did not bring back a photo of their YES vote? Did you know that the early results that were showing overwhelming YES turnout were coming from the AA, which is a state owned and controlled news agency, and was disseminated by the state owned and controlled TRT tv and radio? Do you not find it reason for at least a brief pause in your thinking that in spite of all this, they have won the referandum with 1.5 percentage points? Or, are all of these also “convenient” falsehoods propagated by the five eyes… ? Or, is it that the five eyes that brought Erdogan to power and kept him there for the past 15 years are now drooling that they have finally managed to divide and break a people so deeply that it will take generations to heal (if ever). So, who exactly is benefiting from all this??? It sure ain’t the Turks! Not the Turks who opposed Erdogan, and not the Turks who supported him.

            But, most importantly, are you 100% sure that the five eyes were supporting the NO result? Because if that is the case, they seem to be choosing a damn subtle way of protesting and influencing the result. Because I did not hear a damn peep from any of the usual suspects, not the US, not the UK, not Israel, none of the NATO governments or the European Union refuting the results, or even asking questions. With your thinking, I would have assumed they would be freaking out by now!!!

            • In case you didn’t read my article, it’s clear the establishment want Turkey to remain as it is. Or, should I say, as it was back before the globalist’s failed coup attempt. And before Erdogan started changing the political landscape in the country keeping the NATO-backed military from having so much power in the country. They are angry because a “YES” vote means Turkey will probably never join the EU and with France on their way out the door soon enough, that little European project of undemocratic rule is starting to look a little tattered.

              Since you are such an expert on this subject, why don’t you explain to us what this referendum is all about and how things will change in their country once the changes are implemented. I’m dying to hear that evaluation from you.

              till then, all your friends can go to the Telegraph, the Guardian, the BBC, the Times, CNN, Fox and all those other anti-establishment publications and read about how the referendum was stolen by the “YES” side… which of course, is exactly what YOU are saying.

              • “In case you didn’t read my article, it’s clear the establishment want Turkey to remain as it is. Or, should I say, as it was back before the globalist’s failed coup attempt.”

                My reply was to Penny.

                As for your other snark comments, judging by your tone, it seems like I would need to write a book about it to “tell you what the referandum was all about”. Because, with the logic you both seem to share, the fake news media you list must be full of such idiots that they only think and act in the first degree, and always tell you what they really think, eh?

                • no David… I know what it’s about because I have read the list of 18 changes to their constitution and I know the MSM’s representation of them is wrong. That’s why I asked, and no, it doesn’t take a book to explain it. In fact, you could probably do so in fewer words than that long comment you left me an hour ago. Were you so inclined, that is.

                  I also know the 18 changes used to be 23… but parliament rejected 5 of them. Oh… you didn’t know that? Yes, parliament voted on and approved all 18.

                • David Hazan; You really should have read all the others posts relinked in that one post- then all the external links out from each of those posts before you commented in this manner and I quote “So, you gathered all that you wrote in your article by watching a video you did not understand? That is some quick judgement on your part. So quick, that it gives one the feeling that it was reached even before the referendum.

                  It’s not a quick judgement nor did I make it based on one video

            • and oh look… the CIA’s Washington Post is crying foul as well. Yeah, you’re right. The “usual suspects” aren’t saying it was rigged…

            • and here is the Ottawa Citizen, a Canadian neoliberal rag, saying.. well, saying exactly what YOU are saying… they go further to say it threatens Canadian democracy as well. Guess that means humanitarian intervention is on the way.

            • At east, it is called the “ballot-box democracy” to kind of these democracies. Thanks to Ancient Greece parliamentarians with chiton clothes, due to they found the democracy which will be produced many form of this term 2000 years later! Haha!

    • According to reported internal polling if there was voter fraud it was on the no side- and your claims of “absolute, positively, definite” fraud on the side of the elected government are completely without substance, and cannot be realistically stated as fact.
      Not even with the citation of that alleged activist video?

  3. This article is completely wrong. As usual you present Erdogan and events in Turkey one sided.

    Erdogan was brought to power and is supported by the globalists — still. Even with the supposed problems.
    He is bringing in the system in Turkey that they have wanted for a long time. The west supporters the new system. Ending Atatürk a republic is a long term western goal.
    The Kurds voted in favour of the constitution, they were the ones who gave him the victory. Six of Erdogans advisors came out a few days ago, and said the aim of the new system is to create a federation. Erdogan himself is a supporter of Kurdistan and supports the break up of Syria as well.
    This new constitution actually makes greater Kurdistan more likely.
    The new system is indeed a dictatorship, it’s nothing like the American or the French one. It makes the Turkish parliament obsolete.
    A military coup is now more likely, as the military will try to prevent the disintegration of Turkey.

    • Did you know you cannot even question Ataturks imaginary legacy?
      I just found out about this last week- It’s simply astounding IMO
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_cult_of_personality

      “Law on Atatürk
      Turkish Law 5816 (“The Law Concerning Crimes Committed Against Atatürk”)[10] was passed 13 years after Atatürk’s death on July 25, 1951 by Prime Minister Adnan Menderes’s government,[11] and protects “Atatürk’s memory” from being offended by any Turkish citizen.[12] In 2011, there were 48 convictions for “insulting Atatürk”[8] and insulting Atatürk’s memory is punishable by up to three years in jail.”

      what in the heck is that about?
      Particularly when one thinks about Ataturk and the Kurds involvement in the killing of Christians

    • take two: willy if you find the first one simply delete

      “The new system is indeed a dictatorship, it’s nothing like the American or the French one. It makes the Turkish parliament obsolete”

      can you back that information up with something to read that would support your claim?
      According to my reading it does not make the parliament obsolete and is very much like the US system

  4. Go take your disinfo somewhere else, Sophia. Are Scott’s two years’ worth of research not enough for you? His origins are not entirely indicative of his beliefs or actions in the future.
    And Patrick Cockburn is at this frigging baloney again. I’ll never touch a publication associated with CounterPunch or the Cockburns, ever again.

    • It’s odd how there is this idea that the globalists never turn on those who have previously cooperated with them eh bluegreen?
      I don’t quite understand it, but, to name a few

      -Gaddafi
      -Assad
      -Saddam Hussein
      -Mubarek

      All went along with the globalists and all were tossed to the curb when deemed ready for the trash heap

      • Why does it always have to be an either/or proposition?

        YES! They will get rid of Erdogan!! But he was the only one who could possibly pull off passing this new constitution that allows for a federal system, which is a stepping stone for that Kurdistan you guys keep talking about.

        And for THAT, he had to stay in power… And for THAT, he had to CHEAT in the referendum!!!! And now that he has done THAT, his head is in the crosshairs…

        Just because you guys are on to their toppling-governments scheme, it does not make everything black and white!!!!

        And I resent both of your and Scott’s mocking tones by the way! The world is going towards a very dark place… And this referendum is another point on the warmonger destabilizers and divide and conquerors’ column!!!! With this referendum, those Turkish people you two seem to care oh-so-much about are left with ZERO (Z-E-R-O) chance of ever getting back on their feet long enough to ever have a true democratic election where they will be able to choose the government they would like to have … DO YOU GET THAT?????? This is not a kids’ game where you look at Washington Post and Ottawa Whatever and figure out who’s lying… They are ALL lying!!!!!!!!

        But, no…. since you are smart enough to see that the US and five eyes are lying and scheming, you mock the notion that Erdogan cheated his way to winning the referendum! Sorry, but this is utterly simplistic bullcrap, no matter how valid some of the individual points either of you are making, or have made in the past!

        • David Hazan: the mocking tone belongs to you, including the simplification of my multiple 100’s of posts on Turkey- covering years ofresearch and reading and writing

          DH: “So, you gathered all that you wrote in your article by watching a video you did not understand? That is some quick judgement on your part. So quick, that it gives one the feeling that it was reached even before the referendum.”

          If you would have checked you would have realized I had information on internal Turkey polling linked at my blog, ahead of the referendum- but you jumped the gun and began making wild accusations instead.

          http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2017/04/turkeys-referendum-to-close-to-call.html

          “Let’s look at the referendum numbers and stats coming out of Turkey via James in Turkey

          As of April 13/17

          59% Yvet/ 41 percent Hayir

          As of April 6/17

          58.3 yvet/ 41.7 Hayir

          As of March 30/2017

          61.4 Yvet/ 38.6 Hayir

          The methodology is fully explained also

          That and so much more-

          Here’s what you said

          “just because you guys are on to their toppling-governments scheme, it does not make everything black and white!!!! ”

          No one claimed that but you

          It doesn’t have to be “either/or” but if you make a pile of unsubstantiated claims- and expect them to be accepted without evidence- that’s no different then “assad gassed his people’

          Provide some substance- something that validates your claims- If you can’t then you come off just like anyone else making unsubstantiated claims- and that my friend has nothing to do with Willy or I
          Everything I do and Willy does is posted at our respective blogs with external links and more- where are yours?
          Where is your information?

        • “With this referendum, those Turkish people you two seem to care oh-so-much about are left with ZERO (Z-E-R-O) chance of ever getting back on their feet long enough to ever have a true democratic election where they will be able to choose the government they would like to have … DO YOU GET THAT??????”

          And this is based on what? This “end of Turkish democracy” theme you have adopted that sounds an awful lot like the same thing all those globalist publications I listed before are saying. The same thing MoA said before suggesting a violent regime change to “restore democracy” to Turkey. Which, having read the 18 changes to the constitution… I don’t see happening at all.

          So why don’t you explain to us why this is then end of democracy in Turkey and please be specific.

      • Should journalist also be put on trial for war crimes?

  5. And one more thing.. this reverence for Ataturk???

    Did you know that you cannot “sully his memory” because it’s protected by law? I find this very strange. Particularly when one is aware that Ataturk and the Kurds were buddy, buddy in killing christians- Ataturk being a Donmeh and all..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_cult_of_personality

    Law on Atatürk
    Turkish Law 5816 (“The Law Concerning Crimes Committed Against Atatürk”)[10] was passed 13 years after Atatürk’s death on July 25, 1951 by Prime Minister Adnan Menderes’s government,[11] and protects “Atatürk’s memory” from being offended by any Turkish citizen.[12] In 2011, there were 48 convictions for “insulting Atatürk”[8] and insulting Atatürk’s memory is punishable by up to three years in jail.[

    I have to do a post on that at my place- that one needs some airing

  6. I see you found my missing comments!
    Thanks Scott!

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