Will of Crimea people is not the issue as Russia should respect Ukrainian borders – Gerald Howarth

Watch this British clown lie like Nunes lied yesterday about Russia invading Crimea and Georgia. Total BS on both parts.

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  1. BRITISH STIFF UPER LIP IN ACTION.
    OH HOW BRITIAN LOVES LIBYA. All THAT KISSING AND HAGGLING FOR THE ALLEGED REFORMED GHADDAFI. IT WAS ALL NATO’S HYPOCRACY AND A PLOY FOR ANOTHER DECEIVING REGIME CHANGE “HUNATERIAN” EXERCISE.
    UNTOUCHABLE COLD BLOODED MURDERERS PLANNING MORE OF THE SAME.

  2. Why does RT seem willing to bite the hand of its own state funder (more than the classical American stereotype of “state-controlled press outlets”)? I’m confused here.

  3. @GUZE SPITERI: I can’t even begin to imagine the series of tragedies Libyans are living with daily after NATO destabilization. Here’s to hoping they can find another leader like Ghaddafi. The “new neoliberal reforms” that Elizabeth Harris ascribed to Muammar and Bashar (which may be true) in 2010/11 are small potatoes compared to potential total destruction in this decade or the next.

    • The neoliberal “reforms” in Libya were not instituted by Gaddafi, but by his sons. Gaddafi had retired at that point. For me he remains a hero. Libya’s neoliberal “reforms” were not nearly as harsh as they have been in the West. Western Libyans retained all their goodies (free education, free health care etc etc etc) but eastern Libyans started to feel neglected. The Empire fanned the latter’s unhappiness into public demonstrations in the eastern region (e.g. Benghazi). Then the Empire claimed (falsely) that Gaddafi was slaughtering the eastern demonstrators. Then, under the doctrine of “responsibility to protect,” the Empire proceeded to destroy all of Libya.

      The Empire is not able to destroy any nation whose people remain unified. The Empire must wait until a nation’s people are divided along ethnic or racial lines, or along material lines (e.g. rich vs. poor). Then the Empire can say it has a “responsibility” to protect one group in the nation from another group. Using this pretext, the Empire then destroys all the groups via “humanitarian” carpet bombing. (continued)

    • For the Empire, the sins of Gaddafi’s sons was that their neoliberal “reforms” were not total. For example, they declined to worship Israel and its atrocities. They declined to participate in the Empire’s exploitation of Africa. They declined to put Libya into severe debt to the IMF.

      If you want to marry Satan, you must go all the way, or else Satan will use you and discard you. And if you go all the way, Satan will destroy you if you try to leave, as Saddam Hussein and Manuel Noriega discovered. To become an authentic bride of Satan, you must engage in mass privatization, so that most of your people are plunged into extreme poverty. You must worship bankers, weapons makers, and the Israeli parasite. And you must help Satan (the cancerous Empire) grow worldwide. If you fail to do all these, then Satan will destroy you. (continued)

    • Mr. Assad’s neoliberal “reforms” were (again) not extreme enough for Satan. Assad instituted “market based” changes (i.e. privatization) but he declined to worship Israel, for example. Assad’s “reforms,” combined with a drought, caused unemployment and food prices to skyrocket. People began to march in the street. The population split into factions. The Empire then attacked in order to “promote democracy” and depose the “dictator.”

      Again, you cannot “sort of” marry Satan. You must surrender your soul, and pledge your eternal love for Satan’s evil (including Israeli evil). Otherwise Satan will chew you up and sh*t you out.

  4. It’s an interesting argument in that it mirrors the one that says the will of the Kosovo people is not the issue as NATO should respect Serbian borders. Once that very useful postwar principle was discarded, the baby got thrown out with the bathwater.

  5. “Progressive” warmonger Rachel Maddow says that only Democrats like her can protect us from being enslaved by Russia. In the video below, Maddow discusses a fake Bernie Sanders Facebook page, and claims (with no proof) that it is part of the Russia’s effort to destroy American “democracy.” Maddow says the Facebook page (which was probably set up by the U.S. Deep State) represents “international warfare” — i.e. a world war with Russia.

    Jason Easley (a toady of Maddow) writes, “Republicans pretend to be patriots, but only Democrats are fighting back against the Russian attempt to destroy our democracy. The real patriots are Democrats who are standing up to Russian evil, not the Republicans who are pretending that the evil doesn’t exist.”

    Fake leftists on the march.

  6. Am I the only person that respects the Russian annexation of Crimea? Or at least I don’t think it’s worth spilling American blood or spending American money on.

  7. Sir Gerald Howarth, ex-Minister of Defence (2010-2012), so typical of the lies the tory party come out with everyday.
    He is a disgrace to the british people. To think that the british were governed by this sort of man, not concerned with the truth at all. What a creep!

    • I posted this because I wanted people to see just how similar the British talking points are to those of the American congressmen I wrote about yesterday morning. And yes, they also don’t care about the will of the people, which is what democracy means. So in a sense this guy is making it very clear, democracy be damned, they want what they want and only their desires are relevant. Also note at the end when he says he loves Russia and only wants to help them “modernize their economy” which means he wants to get in there and neoliberalize it. pretty telling that as well

      • Excellent opinion!

      • I HAVE LIVED AND WORKED IN LIBYA AFTER THE UNJUSTIFIED BOMBING DURING THE REAGAN’S ADMINISTRATION.
        HAVING WITESSED FOR MYSELF LIFE IN LIBYA, I CAN NOT STAND THE INSTITUTIONALIZED DAILY LIES ABOUT LIBYA.

        1) BENGHAZI WAS ALWAYS AGAINST GADDAFI. IT WAS THE
        PETRI DISH THAT HIDDEN HANDS USED TO CULTIVATE ISIL
        THE CHAMELEON.
        2 ) BETWEEN DEMOCRACY OF TODAY AND THE GREEN BOOK,
        (WHILE I DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO IT IN TOTAL), I WOULD
        DEFINETLY WILL GO FOR THE GREEN BOOK.
        FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE ON EARTH, AN ORDINARY CITIZEN,
        CAN STOP A NORMAL PROCEDURE UNTIL A
        LOCAL INVESTIGATION IS CARRIED?
        3) WHEN THE TRUTH IS HISTORICALY CLARIFIED, LIBYA, AS
        LED BY GADDAFI WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS THE MOST
        GENEROUS COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. AND WITHOUT
        STRINGS ATTACHED.
        4) I WITNESSED THAT IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO FIND ONE
        PERSON SHORT OF ANYTHING INCLUDING MONEY.
        THE HARDSHIP AND GREAT IRRITATION OF THE LIBYAN
        PEOPLES WAS ALL DUE TO THE CRIMINAL IMPOSITION
        OF SANCTIONS, DELIBERATLY IMPOSED TO PLAY UP ON
        THEIR EMOTIONS.

  8. ElisabethHarris,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_concentration_camps
    that link will give you some info about the crimes of Germany during WW!!.
    I think you are confusing ‘current’ Germany with WW!! Germany or else you do not comprehend what you read.

    • During WW II, every belligerent nation (including the USA) committed trocities and had detention camps.

      • yes. we had detention camps. very bad. about what, 100k in those? very true. Nazi Germany of course had internment camps and work camps with numbers of upwards of 20 million or so was it by the end? And they were forced to work for free and lots of German and US companies profited from the slave labor.

        here is a pic of Japanese women in an internment camp in Cali. https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c93fde057ff8e3f6fc4e21d9723a7095

        and here is a nice pic of a camp in Germany https://nathanbickel.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/holocaustgermancitizenswitnesses.jpg

        • During World War II, the belligerent nations were like a bunch of psychopaths running around murdering people, with each murderer pointing his finger at the other murderers and saying, “They are murderers, whereas I am a righteous and innocent victim.” The more they victimized others, the more they claimed to be “victims” of their victims. This phenomenon continues today with the War Of Terror.

          We play this game when we single out and condemn other people as demons (e.g. Germans 1933-45), while we imagine ourselves to be saints by comparison. Our game is hypocritical and it sustains endless war. For example, we as individuals, and the Empire as a whole, are innocent and saintly victims no matter how many people we (and it) victimize, since the Nazis will always be “worse.” Our get-out-of-jail card is the “six million” narrative. No matter how many atrocities we commit, the Nazis will always be “worse.” In our sanctimoniousness minds we are still righteously fighting the “evil krauts,” thereby helping to justify today’s War of Terror.

          I reject the hypocrisy and the lies that sustain it.

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