UPDATES on Jill Stein’s Flailing Recount Efforts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan

by Scott Creighton

UPDATE: see update at end of article

Here are a few updates on the process:

Jill Stein went on CNN last night and spoke with CIA Mockingbird Anderson Cooper about this process. He asked her specifically why she was doing this when no one, not even J. Alex Halderman (who’s essay made up the entirety of Jill’s Wisconsin petition) said they had seen any evidence of election rigging in any of these three states. Jill said again it was all about “reassuring the voters”. She was then asked “why these three states that would flip the election results” and Stein answered saying something about there having been “irregularities” noted about them and quickly changed the subject back to “reinforcing voter confidence in the election process”. Interestingly, Cooper asked her about the money being collected and how it would be used specifically and she said that neither the Green Party or herself were in control of the money and it would be used for these effort, which begs the question that Anderson failed too ask “If you and the Green Party aren’t in control of how this money is used, who is?”. Jill Stein never offered that information.

Jill Stein has hired the former head of the Michigan Democratic Party, Mark Brewer, to head up her legal team. Brewer is still a member of the national DNC. His wife, Julianna Smoot, “is a former White House social secretary who most recently served as deputy manager for President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign

– Jill Stein has hired another long time Democrat Party insider, Lawrence Otter to help with her recount efforts in Pennsylvania. As it just so happens, I found this picture of Lawrence Otter’s daughter hanging out with… Hillary Clinton… on his Facebook page.

Jill Stein’s team is going to have a tough time forcing a recount in Pennsylvania. In that state you have to provide evidence of malfeasance in order to garner a recount even if you pay the fee. She said on Sunday they were going to have to “jump through some hoops” in order to get it done.

You also have to get 3 registered voters who voted to petition each county in the state in order to get a recount. That would take hundreds of voters. So far they have a hundred or so.

In what appears to be an effort to tamp down expectations from the folks who kicked in nearly 7 million dollars for this effort, Jill Stein in a video posted on Sunday, saying the process in Pennsylvania is more difficult than it is in Wisconsin.

Making if more difficult, Pennsylvania uses electronic voting machines with no paper trail. How they are going to effectively recount that is beyond me.

Stein’s recount project is also facing issues in Wisconsin which they have already assured the concerned public was a done deal once they filed their “the Russians did it” petition this past Friday. Turns out what they want, a comprehensive count of all paper ballots, isn’t what Wisconsin wants to give them and so Stein and company are having to go to court there as well.

It (Wisconsin state Elections Commission) rejected the Stein campaign’s request for a statewide hand recount, instead leaving it to each county to decide whether to use a machine or not. The Stein campaign said it was filing a legal challenge to trigger an all-hand recount.”

In Wisconsin, the Stein team is going to have to plop down 3.5 million dollars to pay for the hand recount by this evening at 8pm. They have filed a lawsuit to force all counties to do a manual count of the ballots. But with no evidence of actual election rigging, chances are slim they will succeed in a court of law with nothing more than New York Times articles about “da ebil Ruskies” as evidence.

Wisconsin Elections Commission chairman Mark Thomsen says he doesn’t think there is any justification for a recount and wants counties to be able to decide for themselves if they should manually count the ballots. Mark Thomsen is a Democrat.

– All three states must finish their recounts by Dec. 13th because the EC voters meet on the 19th to cast their votes. Deadline looming, establishment Dems set by Stein to run the various recount efforts in the various states. Already Stein is walking back expectations.

Seems to me like this effort of hers is in shambles. I don’t know what they intend to “count” in Pennsylvania. The printed receipts from the electronic voting machines? How useful would that be?

UPDATE: Let me just add this comment here I left for a reader a minute ago. I do this in order to ease people’s concerns:

“It wont end in a reversal. There’s no way. With Pennsylvania a totally paper-free election state, there is nothing to recount and without Penn’s EC votes, Hillary cant win even if Mich and Wis are flipped. That’s just “rythmatick” as they say down here in the sticks where I live. So don’t worry. No guns from Trump fans needed.🙂 “

Like I said yesterday, this is about sending a message. As it turns out, Trump figured out that message and sent one of his own Sunday:

But this is the president-elect’s position right now (not prosecuting Hillary for various crimes against the state) and I would say he has been incredibly gracious and magnanimous to Secretary Clinton at a time when for whatever reason her folks are saying they will join in a recount to try to somehow undo the 70 plus electoral votes that he beat her by. Trump Senior Adviser Kellyanne Conway

Trump is threatening Clinton with prosecution if she keeps pushing this process from behind the scenes (as I have been proving she is doing since day one of this process) and his threat is real. There are dems who don’t want folks recounting those ballots in the counties Clinton and other Dems won in Wisconsin and Michigan and there are Republicans who will back his victory however they can. The nuance of Kellyanne Conway’s statement is certainly not lost on the Clintons and their cronies. He’s telling her she’s compromised and he knows she’s compromised and when he controls the Justice Department, he’ll make her pay for this if she keeps it up. He’s doing what a president or a business leader should do in this situation: he’s been gracious to a point but he’s letting folks know he’s not to be trifled with or forced into making decisions he doesn’t want to make. She’s a criminal and everyone knows it and therefore she has no leverage.

Roger Stone came right out and said on Monday that if Clinton and Soros keep this up, Trump will prosecute her. Kellyanne was a bit more subtle in her statement but delivered with that wicked smile she has that tells her audience you shouldn’t fuck with her either.

9 Responses

  1. If Hillary manages to win the recounts, you will have Trump supporters fighting with guns. That will mean civil war.
    Jill Stein is a great disapointment. How much she received from George Soros to get this «recount» done for the democrats?

    • I don’t know if she gets anything out of this other than attention for herself, her cause (which is a good one despite the damage this effort will do it) and potentially a big list of donors the Green Party can sell in the future. If she was demanding a look at the source code, that would be different. But she’s not. However, a recount of the paper ballots in Wisconsin and Michigan could be interesting since they have already said Hillary won those contests on avrage by 7% in Wisconsin… I guess that is why the Dem. head of the Election Commission up there wants no part of forcing ALL of the counties to do a hand recount of the ballots.

      It wont end in a reversal. There is no way. With Pennsylvania a totally paper-free election state, there is nothing to recount and without Penn’s EC votes, Hillary cant win even if Mich and Wis are flipped. That’s just “rythmatit” as they say down here in the sticks where I live. So don’t worry. No guns from Trump fans needed.🙂

    • Jill Stein and Bernie turned out to be big time hypocrites who could be bought.

  2. Yes folks, democrats once again shouldering, with aplomb, the herculean task of somehow making wacked out, religio-fascist republicans actually … LOOK GOOD.
    Unbelievable.

    • what do you expect the Dems to do? they’re Republicans.

      • And very good ones at that!

        I would suggest our 2 political parties are now:
        The Wack-job/Religio-fascist/Anti-science/Whites only/Walmart-Fox News Party (formerly the Republican Party)
        Annnd
        The Republican Party (formerly The Democratic Party)

  3. From ZeroHedge’s post this morning: (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/hillary-lawyer-calls-nc-gop-governor-stop-recount-even-though-race-tighter-wi-mi-pa)

    “Well this is awkward. Just two days after confirming that he would participate in Jill Stein’s recounts in WI, MI and PA, Hillary campaign attorney, Marc Elias, is now publicly calling on North Carolina Republican Gubernatorial candidate, Pat McCrory, to halt his recount efforts and concede his race.”

    Let’s give them Wisconsin and raise them one and go for NC. Maybe Jill would consider NC if she can’t get PN to change their mind.

    Commenter Rabbit One has some clues.

    RabbitOne Nov 29, 2016 10:04 AM
    Why all of the problems with the North Carolina election!!!

    Start with a big illegal alien population of Mexicans estimated at 350 K in 2013:

    http://myfox8.com/2016/03/30/the-states-with-the-most-undocumented-immig

    While other estimates have it at 850K with Obama flooding in more:

    http://www.fairus.org/states/north-carolina

    next strike down voter id laws:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/us/federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-

    Next you give illegal aliens drivers licenses to vote with:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/25/us/north-carolina-immigrant-licenses/index

    Then NC gives illegal aliens 418 of their children a month …

    http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/418-child-rapes-in-north-carol

    And 4000 Charges Of Child Sex Assault Filed Against Illegal Aliens In The Past Year

    http://ufpnews.com/2014/north-carolina-4000-charges-child-sex-assault-fi

    Made NC a nasty election…

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