Ataturk Airport Bombing ala Gladio 2.0, Steals Headlines from Benghazi/CIA Commission Report

by Scott Creighton

You can always count on “ISIS™” to strike at the most opportune moment for Western interests. This is a pattern that has been well established in recent “ISIS™” history.

When we started loosing control of our puppet regime in war-torn Libya and the people started rising up to kick our corrupt cronies to the curb, “ISIS™” suddenly showed up and thus we had all the justification we needed to start bombing again.

It works something like this:

https://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/big-picture.jpg?w=252&h=216

When globalist interests wanted Japan to tear-up their peace constitution making way for Obama’s “pivot to Asia”, “ISIS™” decided to make a ridiculous beheading video featuring Hapless Haruna which was so badly Photoshoped, not only did Fox News have to admit it was a fake, but the Japanese people started up a bad Photoshop contest making fun of the “news’ story.

On Dec. 25th, 2014, I entered the contest with this effort. Notice how it pulls “ISIS™” into the all important War on Christmas? Subtle, huh?

santa

I think I should have won but since I’m not Japanese and since I made it with Autocad and not Photoshop, I was disqualified. Racist bastards.

Truth is, there is a VERY long history of “ISIS™” popping up just where they are needed to justify whatever the CIA or the MIC or NATO or Obama wants at the moment. Unless you are brain-dead or a total shill (or coward), you cannot deny it.

Here is a partial list I put together way back on Jan. 25th 2015. They have only added “ISIS™” hearts and minds events to the list since then:

I think the attack at Istanbul’s Ataturk International Airport certainly qualifies to be added to this list.

Think about it:

  • Brexit threatens contagion of other nations possibly leaving the EU and security factors heavily into the “Remain” propaganda
  • The Benghazi report focuses a lot on what the CIA was doing at that compound, i.e. illegally transferring weapons from Libyan destabilization terrorists to Syrian destabilization terrorists.
  • The Benghazi report mentions CIA head Petraeus sending a drone to fly over the compound an hour BEFORE the attack so he could watch what happened live.
  • The Benghazi report details how President Obama gave an order IMMEDIATELY to send troops to defend US citizens in the compound but that order was delayed by 3 hours as Hillary Clinton’s State Department quibbled with military leadership over what outfits the soldiers would wear.
  • Blaming “ISIS™” for the attack (in spite of the fact that the PKK has recently attacked the other airport in Istanbul) coincides nicely with Obama’s desire to get congress to pass a new Authorization for the Use of Military Force bill which will give him an open pass to wage war anywhere and anytime against anyone he or the CIA says is “helping” “ISIS™”
  • Last week, CIA director Brennan told congress, quite conveniently, that “ISIS™” sent 30 guys into Turkey to blow shit up… and that we should expect some explosions in the near future.

I’m sorry folks but this is WAY TOO OBVIOUS.

As the pundits on the boob-tube keep repeating the mantra that the attack “fits the bill” of “ISIS™” attacks like the one in Brussels (which “ISIS™” claimed credit for while they have not in Turkey) I would like to mention one more thing that this attack seems to resemble:

GLADIO

“Operation Gladio first came to light in Italy in 1990, after over 40 years of clandestine operations. Members of the project revealed that similar projects existed in most if not all countries of Western Europe.[1] These stay-behind networks were, in essence, super secret armies in at least 14 European countries, which were kept secret from the official governmental structures of the host countries – being controlled by other forces such as the CIA and MI6. They remained mostly dormant but were also involved in anti-communist activities including anti-democratic agitation and false flag terrorism. ” Wiki

Operation Gladio is not a “conspiracy theory”, it’s a damn fact. It happened. Terminals were bombed. Mass casualty shooting events took place. In general, it was “irregular warfare” designed to destabilize nations that were leaning too far to the left for the fascists who rule the world so they let loose Capitalism’s Invisible Army (CIA) to remake the hearts and minds of the people of other nations to better serve our national interests.

Isn’t it funny how today, in the wake of the Ataturk bombing attack, all the pundits seem to have received the same talking points saying it “appears to have the hallmarks of an ISIS attack” and that “ISIS prefers soft targets in order to terrify the public into making a change”?

Isn’t that funny?

Why is that funny?

It’s funny because it’s true… well, not exactly true… but true enough:

“During his trial, Vincenzo Vinciguerra revealed that, in addition to discrediting left wing political groups, there had been a second, even darker aim behind the bombings, namely to inculcate a climate of fear among the general populace. This was known as the ‘strategy of tension‘ which was intended to generate a pervasive sense of fear which would encourage the population to appeal to the state for protection. As Vincenzo Vinciguerra summarized during his trial:

‘You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.’

In Francovich’s documentary on Gladio, he described the aim as to ‘destabilise in order to stabilise’… ‘To create tension within the country to promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies.’ Wiki

This is VERY IMPORTANT. I NEED YOU TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS:

Last night I was watching the talking heads and their gaggle of “terrorism experts” they brought out to tell us how to think about this event while it’s all fresh in our minds.

On Jake Tapper’s show he had two such “experts”. One was reported former CIA. Of course.

He said that this attack in Turkey by “ISIS” was because of Assad in Syria and that something had to be done to Assad or else the “ISIS” attacks would continue.

Think about that for a second.

“ISIS™” is supposedly at war with the Syrian government. Why should we HELP “ISIS™” by removing the elected leader of a nation because “ISIS™” blows people up in Turkey?

Is that the most outrageous thing you ever heard in the wake of one of these events?

Well it is until you take GLADIO into consideration, then it makes perfect sense.

But then this CIA Mockingbird on the Jake Tapper show took it one further, I shit you not.

He basically said “democracy breeds instability” and things like “ISIS™” grow from that instability. He mentioned a couple countries where we killed the dreaded democracy and said in the wake of the installation of a dictatorship, stability returned and “ISIS™” was beaten.

That’s exactly, almost verbatim, what the CIA Mockingbird said on NATIONAL FUCKING PRIME TIME TELEVISION LAST NIGHT.

Now I’m sorry if the language bothers you but we are talking about state sponsored terrorism right now and people are dying while ASSHOLES like that guy are being featured on mainstream media outlets discussing how he thinks we should bomb another country because their left leaning democratically elected government is causing terrorism because they refuse to pack up and leave when we tell them to.

If you don’t understand what Gladio was, LOOK IT UP.

If you don’t understand what “ISIS™” is, LOOK IT UP.

We are going backwards. These fascists have dredged up one of the worst tactics in the history of civilization in order to advance their global agenda and we had better not wait another 40 years before we start talking about it for what it is. All joking aside, this is deadly serious and these people are deadly serious about what they want to see accomplished in the next few months before left-cover Obama leaves office.

Don’t wait for them to kill another president. Don’t wait for them to kill another MLK Jr. They are part of our past and obviously part of our present and if we don’t start acknowledging this fact, many of us unfortunately wont be part of their future.

24 Responses

  1. The crumbling EUSSR will see some ISIS (ISIL, IS, Daesh or whatever) action in a near future. The German intelligence warned about it a few days ago.

    And about Gladio. The Swiss writer Daniele Ganser wrote a book on the subject, “NATO’s Secret Armies”.

  2. It is always wise when a big ‘event’ occurs to scan the news for what else is happening, as distraction is a critical tool in hiding the Truth.

    Is it not interesting that for the past few years all of the False-Flag events in Europe have been about terrorism? Whereas in America we like to mix ’em up between Crazy Lone Gunmen (Gun Ban) and Terrorism (Pro War). Or the new trend (SB, Orlando), do a combo!

    I love the Santa beheading pic. Classic. Looks exactly like the official ISIS BS. In particular no blood. I do have a possible explanation; Soulless zombies are bloodless?

    Sidenote: Remember EgyptAir MS804?!? I guess how it came down is unimportant. They found the black boxes, but can’t manage to extract the information from them… surprise surprise. So they sent them to Paris for the experts to work on them. And it’s been the US and French leading the effort to extract the data. So it’s safe to say what really happened (shot down by NATO naval forces) will not be revealed. Is it not fascinating how these black boxes, specifically designed to resist a extreme amount of trauma, are regularly damaged beyond usability if the circumstances are questionable?

    Must be another ‘coincidence’.

  3. I actually predicted something “big” would happen on the day of the Benghazi attack, simply because it was 11 years after Sept. 11, 2001, which was itself 11 years after Bush Sr.’s speech about the “New World Order.”

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  5. I have been watching and scanning news from Turkey since yesterday… A few quick notes:

    Immediately after the attack, the internet was flooded with quite a few witness videos, including a direct shot of the first blast, a direct shot of a terrorist being shot by an officer who blows himself up while on the ground, armed men with no bullet proof vests and no masks running around shooting people, and dozens of witnesses retelling their stories, some of them live while the attack was taking place, etc.

    I mention this to point out the stark differences between a “real” terrorist event in a crowded place, how people with phones in their pockets react by shooting videos, and how traumatized witnesses and the public at large react in such a situation, and all of the staged and heavily dubious “terrorist attacks and mass shootings” here and in Paris. I am well aware that the demeanor of Turks might be very different than Americans in general. Nonetheless, it brings up the ever-so-troubling question of how we never have ANY footage from the public here…

    The scene, at the time of the attack and in its aftermath is total chaos where people are running for their lives, the wounded are throwing themselves and being thrown into cabs towards the hospitals, ambulances rushing in and out, and an inescapable sense of urgency in everyone seen in the videos, etc… As opposed to our extremely orderly massacres here where no one, absolutely no one runs, bleeds, or escapes the building they are in.

    Also noteworthy is the fact that, within hours, upon seeing the quick spread of the videos, the turkish government completely blocked youtube, twitter and Facebook. Something seems to have been in need of controlling. The newly appointed prime minister Yildirim flew in 5 hours after the event, and declared that this was the job of “Daesh”

    Another stark difference one notices is that, in a situation like this, reaction of the average victim’s or victim’s close ones is not the fake sadness we observe in the US videos, but more anger and frustration. Which made me realize that, from Boston bombing to Orlando, we never seem to see anyone expressing anger… A fundamental human reaction to being wronged, being hurt, being attacked… If any of you have experienced a burglary, or have been a victim of any kind of random crime, I think you’d understand… One feels violated… One feels wronged… And one certainly feels angry!!!! But the witnesses as well as victims here in the US come out in front of cameras and give some sappy stories, with a lot of secret or open smiles, express forgiveness at times, comment on the gun control legislation within hours from the traumatic event… etc… etc…

    It was quite painful to see these videos, but I am glad that they are out there. Firstly because it makes it real for people who can stomach watching it, as opposed to some statistical number. Also for emphasizing the contrast between staged and real traumatic events.

    Lastly, as Kevin Scott King mentions above, one needs to always consider what else is going on at the same time. Although the Turkish authorities blame the attack on the fact that they have recently cut a deal with Israel to forgive and forget the flotilla incident and start cooperating on defense and intelligence gathering efforts, there was a major vote going on in the Turkish parliament in a late night session exactly at the time of the attacks, to pass new legislation that greatly increases Erdogan’s power over the judiciary. In spite of the attacks, the vote continued until early hours of the morning and passed with overwhelming majority as expected. Conveniently, no one is talking about it in Turkey or anywhere else as the airport attack occupies the headlines. Nonetheless, today, Erdogan is a major step closer to eliminating his opposition through the judiciary, after a recent law that was passed which lifts the long-held immunity (from prosecution) of all members of the parliament.

    • Well said. The contrast between real deaths, real bullets, and real explosions is night and day. As well as real emotions.

      But when you have a populace that constantly entertains itself with the TV ‘illusion’, and is blinded by this illusion. Then it makes it easy to sell an illusion as the Truth. It just proves how blind and mentally disabled the vast majority of the populace is. Which has been done very deliberately and systematically.

      • I need to clarify that I have not investigated the Turkey event at all. So my comment above may be premature.

        But I do know with 100% certainty that people really did die at the Beslan School Hostage event in 2004. And there is plenty of graphic video and pic evidence of this. And that was 12 years ago. It is an excellent baseline to see what real violence, heroism, blood, death, and anguish are.

  6. Willy they are blaming Turkey for it’s support of ISIS!
    Vindication!!! Scott- my lone friend in the view that Turkey was being targeted-
    I’m putting up a post asap
    Of course it’s the New Yorker providing the official narrative-

    • Hey Penny, I tried to post this at your site but it didn’t take. But Scott should see this as well. It’s got some interesting stuff about airport security.

      “The aviation-security industry has been saying for years that eventually someone is going to figure out that 500 people standing in line at the checkpoint is just as good a target as if they get through (the checkpoint) and get to an airplane.”

      This article unintentionally makes the whole thing so ridiculous but there may be some searchable clues in here:

      http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_TURKEY_BLASTS_SECURITY?SITE=INKEN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    • Turkey does support ISIS, everyone knows that.
      Today they (corporate media and fake alternative media scum) are blaming a Russian for the bombing, not ISIS.

      http://aanirfan.blogspot.ca/2016/06/istanbul-airport-je-suis-false-flag.html

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/istanbul-investigation-bombers-1.3659409

      • mitch: I thought Assad supported ISIS?
        And Iran supports ISIS too.
        So in that context, sure, why not say Turkey supports ISIS?
        In fact let’s say everyone else supports ISIS except for those that do
        US/UK/Israel

        storyboarder I put the link in the comment section in my latest post
        thanks for leaving it
        I do like how it is the Israeli guy is so sure that bombing tooks weeks of planning- how does he know that?

        btw: mitch- the Russian is from Dagestan, so yes he is a citizen of Russia… and that select group being blamed is to enable the blame to be put on ISIS-

        • I just watched a video where one of the shooters (not the guy who blows himself up) is running around, or skipping around more like it, moves through a section of the airport and throws his gun down on the floor for no reason. he then picks it up and exits stage right. the guy does not check corners (that’s how other one got shot) does not carry weapon like a trained merc would. he doesn’t move like he’s trained. I was also researching the Young Lions of rajah or whatever they hell they are called, the Syrian YPG, and I found out there are lots of mercs from other countries fighting with them. From the US, Britain and probably places like the three nations these guys were supposedly from. These mercs aren’t typically well trained either.

        • No cupcake. Assad is the good man being destroyed by the USA and NATO. The USA and NATO created and control ISIS and are using it to destroy good people, like the Syrians. You should check out that link to the je suis false flag and learn a thing or two from a great site.

          So why say that Turkey supports ISIS? Because it is true and easily provable.
          Still, some scummy fake alternative media are trying to deny the NATO tool Erdogan has been helping ISIS. Why?

          Here is some good information for you on both Russia and Turkey recently engaging in friendly diplomatic talks with Israel. Clearly it does not fit with the BS you are tasked with promoting, sorry.

          http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2016/01/14/vladimir-putin-is-the-closest-thing-to-a-friend-israel-has-ever-had-in-moscow/

          http://english.aawsat.com/2016/06/article55353264/possible-turkey-israel-reconciliation-deal

  7. Scott, as valid as your analysis is, I feel you are giving Erdogan a bit of free pass. He should be considered a prime suspect, even if not the only one. He is well capable of using such a terror attack to hide the stench of his most recent, and absolutely unconstitutional power grab by taking on the entire judiciary on the same day as the airport attacks.

    There is tremendous realignment taking place in the region at the moment. Erdogan’s rapprochement with Israel and Russia are the most obvious ones.

    And, just yesterday, the head of the Kurdish HDP party claimed that Turkish and Syrian delegations met in Algeria last month.. To what end, I have no idea (yet)…

    • Why do you need me for that? The MSM has that angle covered quite nicely:

      “Assuming the official claim turns out to be accurate, it once again raises the murky question of Turkish government attitudes towards the Isis militants who control or are contesting large swaths of territory adjacent to Turkey’s southern border with Syria and Iraq and are said to maintain networks of supporters inside Turkey.

      The basic problem is that Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s president, believes indigenous Kurds in those areas and in south-east Turkey pose a bigger threat than does Isis. This perceived ambivalence has led to numerous accusations of tacit Turkish support for or, worse still, complicity in Isis’s activities since the group swept to prominence in 2014 – all flatly denied by Erdoğan and his ministers.”

      Here’s a former CIA director talking about “irradic” Erdogan just the other day:

      “Retired four-star general and former CIA Director Michael Hayden joins “CBS This Morning” to discuss how this suggests ISIS is “looking for winds” beyond local battlefields, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s “erratic” foreign policy, the potential for an attack in the U.S and why he does not support Donald Trump.”

      Leave it to the Washington Times to give the story a little ham-handed spin:

      Turkey airport attack gives Recep Tayyip Erdogan incentive to battle ISIS

      “While Mr. Erdogan has since July 2015 allowed the U.S. military to run airstrikes against Islamic State targets from Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey, Washington and Ankara have struggled to operate on the same page.

      U.S. officials have expressed concern that the Erdogan government is using the chaos and jihadi threats in neighboring Iraq and Syria as a pretext to crush the very Kurdish militants that Washington is relying upon to play a major role in retaking territory from Islamic State in the coming months.

      For his own part, Mr. Erdogan has argued that Turkey’s interests are too often overlooked in the U.S.-led fight, including its long battle with militant Kurdish separatists and the burden Ankara is shouldering as it houses vast numbers of Iraqi and Syrian refugees who’ve flooded into the nation since the Syrian civil war began five years ago.

      Some analysts say Tuesday’s attack may change Mr. Erdogan’s calculus.

      “If ISIS is indeed behind this attack, as the U.S. and Turkey say, this would be a declaration of war. Turkey’s vengeance will come down like rain from hell,” said Soner Cagaptay, who heads the Turkish Research Program at The Washington Institute for Near East Policy think tank.”

      So that is the “ISIS” part of it all. But don’t worry, though the MSM isn’t up on Erdogan’s “war on Judiciary”, the Soros-backed NGO Foundation for Defense of Democracies is… heck, they published something on June 24th this year about the subject

      “Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım submitted to parliament a government bill on June 13 that would redesign Turkey’s high courts as requested by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. The proposed reforms to the Supreme Court of Appeals and the Council of State would relieve 711 judges serving on these legal bodies from duty, and allow Erdoğan to stack the courts in his favor. If Turkey’s Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) succeeds in pushing this legislation through, it will further erode the separation of powers between the executive and the judiciary, bringing the country a step closer to Erdoğan’s dystopian dream of a “unity of powers.”

      So there are plenty of places you can find Erdogan bashing info, setting him up for the coming regime change, the next in the series to build a Greater Kurdistan. Me? I don’t take my cues from them. thanks.

      • I understand. But, what i was saying and what you are pointing out above are not mutually exclusive.

        And, I was not professing or suggesting Erdogan bashing… Was just pointing out that the relationships between involved parties (like Erdogan, Gladio, Langley, DC, Nato, Syria, Russia, Turkey, Israel etc.) are not so black and white. That’s all.

        Thanks for your reply.

        • they are not black and white. I agree. As I have reported in the past, Erdogan was on board with the neoliberal shift a decade ago and helped with the “global war of terror” as well. But right now, as he has refused to take out another crippling IMF “loan” and strikes out against the Kurds who are rampaging their way through Syria, he’s not a D.C. favorite… and wasn’t in Tel Aviv for many, many either.

          Have you forgotten that?

          There are many shades of grey in Turkey these days and I don’t pretend to know everything about the situation. But my article isn’t about that… it’s about what appears to be a new Gladio operation taking shape and as you know, Gladio ops took place in places they wanted to regime change.

          Also, did you note the other article I wrote today? The one about Russia and Turkey getting closer? Does that not sound like Gladio to you? You ask how I miss certain things, how did you miss that?

        • no Erdogan bashing?

          “He should be considered a prime suspect, even if not the only one. He is well capable of using such a terror attack to hide the stench of his most recent, and absolutely unconstitutional power grab by taking on the entire judiciary on the same day as the airport attacks.”

          Then I guess that is your idea of remaining neutral? ಠ_ಠ

          • Calling Erdogan fat doesn’t mean i think the others are all skinny…

            Why does it always need to be all or nothing with you? There are many many players, and many factions in Turkey and the entire region and many forces at play… And they ALL do very f’d up things.. Kurds, Turks, CIA, Mossad, you name it…

            Erdogan was also involved, in the first degree, with the weapons trafficking from Libya into the middle east, which lays at the core of the Benghazi incident, the investigation of which you rightly point out is being covered up by hook or by crook… He is a dictator in all senses of the word, and the fact that he is being played and being ousted like the many past puppet dictators of the region doesn’t change that fact.

            Anyway… I am sorry that I even brought it up… I’ll just go back to just reading what you write… Since I can’t seem to be impartial and all that…

            • A dictator like whom? Saddam? Gaddafi? Assad? Putin? Yanukovych? Yingluck Shinawatra? Manuel Zelaya? Morsi? Castro? Allende? That kind of dictator? The kind that gets regime changed on behalf of the IMF? Did you not notice what I wrote? That he refused to sign on for a new IMF deal? Is that not interesting? Does that not factor in?

              You act as though I am unwilling to hear contradictory opinions. I am not. You’re still here, posting freely. I just happen to represent the minority report opinion on the matter, that’s all. As you can see, yours is backed by the MSM and various regime change NGOs along with a bunch of foundation-backed “alternative” journalists and a few others who aren’t paying close attention.

              But ultimately here is where I come down on the subject and I want you to pay real close attention because it matters and it’s completely in line with EVERY GODDAMNED THING I EVER WROTE ON THIS WEBSITE:

              The people of Turkey elected him and the political party he represents. They are doing better under his leadership (and refusal to sign another IMF loan) and his people appreciate him for it in spite of the Gulenist newspapers spreading lies and disinformation about him.

              In short, they voted for him, they want him, so who the fuck are we to determine he is a “dictator”? They do have a democracy over there and unlike ours, all the elections are watched over by outside interests, allowed to come in and do so freely, and their elections are a hell of a lot more democratic than ours. So who the fuck are we to call him a “dictator” because some regime change NGOs and Mockingbird press outlets make up stories about him?

              That is looking at it impartially. Giving the people of Turkey enough credit to know what they want or who.

            • and let’s not forget this, since you brought it up… I didn’t go into who was probably helping the CIA with this new Gladio op. I didn’t say anything about the Mossad or MI6 or the Five Eyes or anything. I focused my entire story on what purpose this event served US domestic interests, right? It was you who decided to turn this thread into an anti-Erdogan forum, right? Let’s not forget that. You decided to go off topic by choice and I responded. You decided to “go there” and now you don’t like my reply? sorry But you opened this can of worms, not me.

    • perhaps you would like to explain to me that Erdogan staged these as false flags as well…

      “The terrorist Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) raided an asphalting site that is run by the 11th Regional Directorate of Highways in the predominantly Kurdish southeastern province of Van, setting a number of vehicles on fire; 25 construction workers at the site are currently missing.

      The highway construction, which is located near the Gürpınar district, was raided by PKK members at around 2:00 p.m. on Thursday. The assailants forced the construction workers to step out of the vehicles, before setting the vehicles ablaze. An employee called the 11th Regional Directorate of Highways to report the incident. Security forces have been dispatched to the neighborhood, while the 25 workers cannot be found.

      In a separate incident, two sergeants were killed in a bomb attack carried out by the PKK in between the southeastern districts of Lice and Genç. According to reports, a handmade explosive that was planted on a road was detonated while an armored military vehicle passed by. A large scale operation has been launched to capture the assailants.” Turkish Minute

      There is a lot of shit happening in Turkey right now. The Gulenists with help from various globalist interests are looking to return him to the country to take over and neoliberalize the place right and proper. The Kurds wish to bust off a piece of the country to go with Iraqi Kurdistan, Syrian Kurdistan and Iranian Kurdistan, which they will call Greater Kurdistan (do you remember when I was being attacked by folks here a year or so ago because I was writing about this stuff and they all said I was crazy or just making shit up to cover for Erdogan? Remember that?)

      Erdogan has cut a deal to normalize relations with both Russia and Israel and though I can’t say I appreciate what he has done on either front (don’t forget, Russia threatened Assad if he didn’t give in to their plans for Syrian Kurdistan), there is a whole lot going on.

      Am I the predominant Erdogan expert? Of course not. But do I think he staged a false flag in order to drum up support for his rule? no. that is ridiculous.

      Earlier you made a very good point about this incident having a very different feel to it than ours do. Info is coming out, witness videos are all over the place and generally speaking, it feels more “real”

      I don’t think that would be the case if the governing body was in charge of the event or if they had something to hide.

      No I don’t thing Erdogan did this. And you should be more careful reporting on National Democracy Foundation propaganda in the future.

      Yes, we have been conditioned to hate Erdogan for the past year or so and I do not know his full intentions behind making nice with Israel. but I don’t think I am giving him a pass for anything. I’m just not jumping to conclusions.

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