EgyptAir Flight MS804: Phoenix Express 2016 Naval Exercises May 17 – 27

by Scott Creighton

UPDATE: EgyptAir Flight MS804 Flew Right Through Phoenix Express 2016 Naval Exercises

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UPDATE: The naval drills were taking place between Greece and territorial waters of “North African nations”

“This year’s exercise control group will be hosted at the NATO Maritime Interdiction Operations Training Center (NMIOTC) located in Souda Bay, Greece, but training will take place throughout the Mediterranean to include North African nations’ territorial waters.” Navy.mil

UPDATE: Greek authorities say the plane made sudden swerving movements just before it disappeared (as if they were trying to avoid something)

EgyptAir Flight MS804 on route from Paris to Cairo, disappeared off radar over the Mediterranean Sea early this morning at a cruising altitude of 37,000. It had just passed through Greek airspace and was in Egyptian airspace for 3 minutes before it vanished from radar. Weather conditions were clear. Sixty-six people were on board. 56 passengers and 10 crew members.

The captain of a merchant vessel reported seeing something burning in the sky at that location.

“The AFP news agency reports confirmation from a Greek aviation source that the EgyptAir plane crashed off the island of Karpathos. The captain of a merchant ship in the area had reported seeing a ‘flame’ in the sky and marine traffic monitors showed civilian vessels joining a search in the area.” Guardian

The area where the plane disappeared is heavily traveled by both air and sea traffic. Greek officials are investigating the reports from the Greek merchant vessel that said the explosion “lit up the sky”

I cannot but help to remember the two guided missile destroyers conducting drills in the South China Sea when Flight 370 was seen “burning in the sky” or the Israeli air combat drills taking place when Metrojet Flight 9268 blew up midair. I guess that’s because there are naval drills (Phoenix Express 2016) taking place in the Med. Sea from May 17 -27 and of course, they include guided missile destroyers.

There are persistent reports that some form of distress beacon was picked up by both Greek authorities and EgyptAir in that area roughly 2 hours after the plane dropped off radar though the Egyptian military denies these claims.

The Daily Mirror is reporting the transponder has fixed the crash location. There is also a photo being published by the Daily Star which purports to show Flight MS804 burning in the night sky. Since it’s not confirmed I will not publish it.

What makes this case somewhat unique is the fact that there was no distress call from the plane and the fact that it disappeared off radar contact instantly. It didn’t drop out of radar coverage. It didn’t seem to slow down. It just vanished.

At 37,000 feet, there is little that could have happened to the plane short of:

  1. major catastrophic mechanical malfuntion
  2. terrorist attack via bomb on board
  3. cruise missile attack
  4. air-to-air missile attack

MSM talking heads are focusing solely on the terrorism angle. France is in the middle of a massive nationwide protest and they have enacted their draconian emergency security laws in order to clamp down on protesters. The other day they staged a “burning cop car” production to gin-up support for these measures with the general public. Something else being accredited to “ISIS” would certainly not hurt their situation right now.

al Sisi is under pressure as well so the fact that the event took place 3 minutes into Egyptian airspace is of note because that means they are in charge of the investigation… not Greece.

All that said… we have very little information to go on right now except for this:

The international Phoenix Express 2016 naval exercises will take place May 17 – 27 in the Mediterranean Sea.

This year, Algeria, Egypt, Greece, Italy, Malta, Mauritania, Morocco, Spain, Tunisia, Turkey and the United States, representatives from the NATO Shipping Center, the International Organization for Migration (IOM) and the EU border management agency Frontex are taking part in the drills. RT

You might recall, in the vicinity of many of the most recent airline disasters, there were active military conflicts or drills taking place at the time the planes went down:

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In the case of Metrojet Flight 9268, they put together a little band of whitebread jihadists who pretended to take credit for the downing of the plane.

do they get these kids straight out of acting school in Tel Aviv?

According to the Phoenix Express 2016 website:

U.S. units participating include the dive and rescue salvage ship USNS Grasp (T-ARS 51), and the USS Gravely (DDG 107). Additionally, medical and maritime interdiction operations specialists will assist participating partner nation units during the exercise.” Phoenix Express 2016

The USS Gravely is a Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer with the motto “First To Conquer”. “Gravely was sent to patrol the eastern Mediterranean Sea in response to rising rumors of an imminent U.S. military intervention in the Syrian civil war

The talking heads are focusing almost entirely on the “ISIS” theory at this point though they could attempt to portray it as something done by either Turkey or Syria (or “ISIS” flying Libyan planes?) There are so many regimes to change in the area, who knows how it will play out.

There are very few things that can make a full sized commercial airliner completely disappear from radar. A stray cruise missile is probably one of them. A small “ISIS” bomb in a backpack is not. A major mechanical malfunction might be, but like with TWA Flight 800, it’s hard for them to come up with something so catastrophic that explains those kinds of results.

I certainly don’t know what caused it at this point, but my guess is the narrative will become a replay of the Metrojet 9268 story involving “ISIS” somehow. My best guess right now is that it was more likely a military accident, like 9268, Flight 800 and MH370. But that is just a guess.

As more info becomes available, I will report on it.

My condolences to the families of those lost in this horrible tragedy.

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11 Responses

  1. How could they even attempt to practice war games in such a busy area? that was a careless and reckless decision.

  2. Phoenix Express: Sailors Conduct Mock Mass Casualty Exercise

    https://navaltoday.com/2014/05/28/phoenix-express-sailors-conduct-mock-mass-casualty-exercise/

    P.S. Believe this article has a typo, as the drill has already started, but it says “Participating nations are practicing a wide range of skill sets during these operations which started on May 24 and will last until June 2,” which makes no sense, since May 24 hasn’t arrived.

    And ZNN is reporting that the EgyptAir 804 wreckage, which ‘crashed’ in Egyptian air space and the majority of victims are Egyptians is being taken to NATO occupied Greece?

  3. No way did a modern jet plane just up and “vanish” in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea. NO FREAKING WAY.

  4. Although we can’t determine what happened to this flight at this point,it seems that conducting drills certainly would make for a convenient time for an assassination of one or more individuals, wouldn’t it?With a tragic “mistake” being the fall back position should the “terrorist attack” scenario not fly(sorry for the pun) or lose credibility.Is there any way a private individual or average passenger can determine,before booking their flight, if military exercises are taking place in or around the departure point,flight path or final destination?If I had to travel,and considered myself on the shit list of various governments,or vested interests,taking a boat,the train,or the bus is looking pretty good right now.

    • You’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope on this one, Stan. Military exercises are almost always scheduled months in advance.
      You are correct in that the exercise may have been used as cover to down the plane, but the plane would necessarily have been the target, not one specific individual.

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