The Times They Are a Changing: Sunstein Says ISIS™ Killed the First Amendment

by Scott Creighton

(note: I haven’t been writing the last couple of days. Been kinda sick. This is a short article but I thought you would want to see it)

A former administrator of Obama’s White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Cass Sunstein, has penned an op-ed over at Bloomberg View where he argues the times, they are a changing thanks to ISIS™, so we need to do away that pesky little first amendment thing before they radicalize some more kids on Facebook.

“The intensifying focus on terrorism, and on Islamic State in particular, poses a fresh challenge to the greatest American contribution to the theory and practice of free speech: the clear and present danger test. In both the U.S. and Europe, it’s worth asking whether that test may be ripe for reconsideration.” Sunstein

Sunstein’s short argument is basically that the “clear and present danger test” currently applied to interpretations of first amendment protections, needs to be rethought because, as it stands now…

“… that test protects a lot of dangerous speech, including many forms of recruitment and propaganda for terrorist purposes.” Sunstein

“Dangerous speech”. Right. I wonder how broad that definition will be once we finish “having the discussion” about giving up that freedom for a little security. If history has taught us anything, it’s be pretty broad.

Over on the left side of the fake political divide, Eric Posner has penned a similar, complimentary op-ed for Slate. Eric actually uses the San Bernardino shooting patsies suspects as examples of how ISIS™ uses social media to reach their clammy hands across the Atlantic to commit acts of terror here in the States.

“It has become increasingly clear that terrorist groups such as ISIS can extend their reach to American territory via the Internet. Using their own websites, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and other platforms, they lure young men and women to their mission—without having to risk the capture of foreign agents on U.S. soil. The Americans ensnared in ISIS’s net in turn radicalize others, send money to ISIS, and even carry out attacks.” Posner

Posner’s link takes you to an article that says the Paris attacks and the San Bernardino attacks were carried out by people radicalized and sworn to support ISIS™ through social media.

Unfortunately for Posner, there is still no evidence of that according to the FBI.

In his op-ed, Posner goes a bit further than his friend Cass. He suggests people be fined or arrested for simply going to “ISIS™ related websites” which is an interesting twist in that they aren’t writing or posting anything, much less “dangerous speech”. All they are doing is visiting a webpage that has been deemed by “someone” on “some undetermined grounds” to be “ISIS™ related”. Again, slippery slope doesn’t even begin to cover this.

“But there is something we can do to protect people like Amin from being infected by the ISIS virus by propagandists, many of whom are anonymous and most of whom live in foreign countries. Consider a law that makes it a crime to access websites that glorify, express support for, or provide encouragement for ISIS or support recruitment by ISIS; to distribute links to those websites or videos, images, or text taken from those websites; or to encourage people to access such websites by supplying them with links or instructions. Such a law would be directed at people like Amin: naïve people, rather than sophisticated terrorists, who are initially driven by curiosity to research ISIS on the Web.

The law would provide graduated penalties. After the first violation, a person would receive a warning letter from the government; subsequent violations would result in fines or prison sentences.” Posner

That is remarkable. Potentially sending people to PRISON for doing some RESEARCH on the web about their fake ISIS™ boogieman.

Posner, from the birthplace of neo-liberal ideology, the University of Chicago, has a long history of wishing to put the clamps on free speech. Back in Feb. he was saying colleges should be allowed to do just that since their students are children. According to him, students should be protected from the bad ideas running around out there (BDS?)

Sunstein, married to Samantha Power who is currently Obama’s United States Ambassador to the United Nations , also taught at the University of Chicago School of Law.

As you can see, there is a definite push taking place to start limiting free speech in this country in the wake of a couple mass casualty events, rather suspicious mass casualty events, if you ask me.

Every year it seems we are being told we have to have the debate about giving up one or another of our constitutional protections in order to “keep us safe”

Well, after a while, it should be kind of obvious what’s going on here.

terrorism – “the unlawful use of force and violence (or the threat of the use of force and violence) against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political (economic) or social objectives”

No folks. ISIS™ didn’t kill the 1st amendment. But someone is. They didn’t take your right of due process by saying they could put you on some arbitrary list that will prevent you from enjoying all you other rights either. But someone did.

Yes, this is terrorism. But the question is, from whom?

10 Responses

  1. They can slip the “Kill the First Amendment” bill into next year’s Omnibus bill so that we can find out about it after they surely pass it! I’m telling you, my patience is running very short with these thugs.

    • I swear i am not trying to antagonize or challenge you, io… But, just curious, what happens when your patience runs out altogether?

      They have prepared two choices for us. We either go along to get along and accept the shackles, or we rebel and act up!!.. In my opinion, they win in both of those scenarios…

      (There are many alternate scenarios which could foil their plans, but we can’t even seem to be able to agree on who’s real, who’s an agent, who leads and who misleads… So, odds are very much against us when it comes to these alternate scenarios)

  2. Perhaps they’ll eventually rename all terrorist groups “Truth”, so anyone searching for the truth is fair game.

  3. They need to make it a crime to pretend ISIS exists. There’s no ISIS. The Islamic State (territory), as described, is a geopolitical and economic impossibility.

  4. It’s becoming increasingly clear that the rulers of the world underestimated the potential consequences of worldwide, ‘horizontal’ exchange, through the implementation of electronic communication, the internet – providing a breakout from exclusive top-down government propaganda and, more dangerously to them, providing something of an open door to organized popular action.

    Each and every one of the most recent, so-called ‘terrorist’ events [Charlie Hebdo, Paris Nov 13, San Bernadino] has provided the pretext to pass draconian surveillance laws, in a campaign designed to put populations ‘back in their place’.

    Meanwhile, these acts of contrived ‘terrorism’ have provided a shining opportunity to create pretexts to exploit public monies, to wage wars of conquest.

    Such strategies are nothing new, but the advent of the internet certainly has and continues to pose a problem for global plutarchs’ ambitions.
    .

    • Here’s the thing. It’s not just about containing speech they don’t like or making people self-censor. It’s about controlling the power of the “internet of everything” for the companies they protect. They will be collecting anything.. copyrighted research, new designs for existing products, critical reviews of various companies and their products. I mean, it’s anything, really. The sky is the limit when you think about it. What they are going to do is give Microsoft and a few other companies a license to steal from the source. You are right about the problem the open internet poses for them, but in my opinion, that’s just one facet of this.

    • Yes, I bet they’re trembling at the idea of 0.004% of half of a quarter of an eighth of a sixteenth of the population of the West posting ‘truth’ online.

      Name one ruler of the world who has suffered by being exposed by “organised popular action”?

      What’s a “global plutarch”?

      Please understand that you, I and everyone else participates in this kind of thing for entertainment purposes only. It changes nothing. It will change nothing.

      The Internet is for consuming, and fannying about when you’re not consuming.

      • Yeah, the internet is just entertainment and BS, like reading you Eggman.

      • so in that regard, I guess you think it wouldn’t really matter if they censor the internet to stop “ISIS” from radicalizing the children? is that your point?

        and by the way, there are tons of examples of how the internet has hindered all sorts of plans of theirs. Obama’s “redline” in Syria for one. The shooting down of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 for another. Heck, even the official story of 9/11 had to change a bit due to online investigative journalists. And that is to say nothing of them shutting down activity on Reddit after the Boston Bombing or all those activists who killed CISPA back in 2012 and 2013.

        Tons of shit, man. And, while we are talking about it, hows the ratings for MSM looking these days? Going down, aren’t they? Where do people get their news? More and more get it from the internet and social media…

        so I guess, once again, you are just full of shit and letting your influence peddler slip show… right?

      • Presentation to CFR in Montreal, May 2010. Zbiggy Brzezinski, a prominent back stage, CFR, Bilderberg player, warns his audience:

        CFR Meeting: Zbigniew Brzezinski Fears The Global Awakening [video 6:04]

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