Putin: Russia will not tolerate this “stab in Russia’s back” delivered by “terrorism accomplices”

(Seems to me, if someone wanted Erdgan out of power, a coup put in his place and Russia to be weakened by the loss of another friendly state, then giving the order to shoot down this Russian fighter might just be the perfect solution. Just saying…)

from TASS

Russia will not tolerate crimes like the attack on the Russian Su-24 fighter jet shot down by the Turkish Air Force in Syrian skies, President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday at a meeting with King of Jordan Abdullah II.

“I understand each country has its own regional interests, and we have always respected that. But we shall never tolerate crimes like today’s one,” the president said.

The Russian leader stressed that the downed fighter-bomber was posing no threat to Turkey.

“Our pilots and jet posed no threat to the Turkish Republic. This is obvious. They were conducting an operation against ISIL,” Putin said.

He stressed the plane was flying above northern Lattakia where militants coming from Russia are concentrated.

“The Russian bomber was shot down over Syria by an air-to-air surface fired from a Turkish F-16 plane when the bomber was at an altitude of 6,000 meters at a distance of 1 km from the Turkish bomber.” Putin said.

“They [the pilots] were fulfilling their task,” the president stressed adding that they were delivering preventive air strikes on terrorists who can come back to Russia at any moment.

Putin called the attack a crime and stressed that Russia would not tolerate it. According to the president, the Su-24 plane crash in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is “a stab in Russia’s back delivered by terrorist accomplices.”

“Today’s loss is linked with a stab in our back delivered by terrorism accomplices. I can’t characterize otherwise what has happened today,” the Russian leader said.

According to the president, Russia has long been aware of oil supplies to Turkey from Syria’s territories seized by terrorists, which provided tangible financial support for the extremists.

“We’ve long exposed heavy trafficking of oil and petroleum products from Islamic State-seized territories,” Putin said, adding that monetary support for the militant groups was large, indeed.

“Now we’ve suffered stabs in the back: attacks against our planes that fight with terrorism,” Putin said. He pointed out that Turkey attacked Russia’s Sukhoi-24 although “we have signed agreements with the American partners on the prevention of incidents in the air, and Turkey, as is known, is among the countries that have declared they are ostensibly fighting against terrorism within the US-led coalition.”.

Putin noted that Turkey’s contacts with NATO member states after the attack against the Russian aircraft look like an attempt to make the alliance serve terrorists.

The Russian leader said that instead of immediately establishing contacts with Russia after the bomber incident, “the Turkish side applied to its NATO partners to discuss this issue, as far as we know.”

“It seems as if we have shot down a Turkish plane and not vice versa,” the Russian president said.

“So, does this mean that they want NATO to serve the Islamic State?” Putin noted.

The president said the attack on the Russian jet will have tragic consequences to Russia-Turkey ties.

“We will certainly carefully analyse what has happened and today’s tragic event will have serious consequences to Russian-Turkish relations,” he said. According to Putin, Russia has always treated Turkey not simply as a close neighbour, but as a friendly state.

“I have no idea who needed what has happened today, but in any case it’s not us,” the Russian president said.

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  1. I think your take on Turkey and Erdoğan may not be entirely accurate. Erdogan and his family apparently have strong ties to ISIS and this event may reflect the influence of a faction that wants to blunt Russia’s campaign and potentially invoke NATO mutual defense provision.

    Here’s an interview with Webster Tarpley. I disagree with his conclusion that it wasn’t a false flag in that many coincidences occurred prior to the event that suggest active government complicity. However Tarpley does provide a lot of interesting information which deserves consideration.

    • that’s the same Webster Tarpley who said anyone questioning the events in Benghazi was a globalist shill trying to “bring down Obama”? That Webster Tarpley? The same Webster Tarpley that is pushing the official story of the Paris attacks? That Webster Tarpley?

      And what do you mean his family has “ties to “ISIS””? You do know what “ISIS” is right? I mean, I haven’t been writing about them for nearly two years now for nothing, have I?

      Please don’t post anymore of that asshole’s Cass Sunstein, controlled opposition regime change propaganda on this site again. thank you. talk about him all you want, but don’t post his crap here. Him, Judy Wood, Morgan Reynolds… you get the picture.

      • Hi Scott, thank you for posting your background pieces. Erdogan has done some positive things and Sibel Edmonds actually did a piece last year where she highlighted some of the positive economic changes he’s made. Her point was that Erdogan was falling from grace with the NWO and that we could expect a campaign to discredit him. All of that supports your position that we can expect propaganda aimed at taking him down.

        Similarly your review of Webster Tarpley was quite helpful. Tarpley created a great deal of initial credibility for me with his 9/11 work, history of Hitler and the Western Banking block, and his initial support for Assad when many people still bought the idea that courageous freedom fighters were trying to remove him. Tarpley actually went to Syria and openly labeled the “resistance” as “death squads”.

        Yet your points are well taken. I don’t fully understand why people like Tarpley turn into gate keepers but that’s besides the point.

        Yet with all of that we have to ask the question, why has Erdogan supported or allowed Turkey to support ISIS? Clearly he knows this armed group is a western aligned proxy army and if he feels pressure from the west for his anti debt policies you’d think he’d look down the road and recognize the potential this armed group of crazies has to turn against him. We know Erdogan has supported the idea of a false flag against to open a war against Syria and the whole thing suggests he has a stake in seeing Assad taken down and Syria dismantled. This has been talked about in the context of Turkey’s desire not to be bypassed by an Iran/Iraq/Syria project.

        Similarly, if he’s being set up by factions within the military wouldn’t he take steps to purge them and reassure Putin that he is not playing the NATO card against him?

        Presumably we’ll see how it plays out over time.

    • so you want to talk about Erdogan? let’s talk…

      Since 1961, Turkey has signed 19 IMF loan accords. Erdoğan’s government satisfied the budgetary and market requirements of the two during his administration and received every loan installment, the only time any Turkish government has done so.[86] Erdoğan inherited a debt of $23.5 billion to the IMF, which was reduced to $0.9 billion in 2012. He decided not to sign a new deal. Turkey’s debt to the IMF was thus declared to be completely paid and he announced that the IMF could borrow from Turkey.[87] In 2010, five-year credit default swaps for Turkey’s sovereign debt were trading at a record low of 1.17%, below those of nine EU member countries and Russia.

      In 2002, the Turkish Central Bank had $26.5 billion in reserves. This amount reached $92.2 billion in 2011. During Erdoğan’s leadership, inflation fell from 32% to 9.0% in 2004. Since then, Turkish inflation has continued to fluctuate around 9% and is still one of the highest inflation rates in the world.[88]

      The Turkish public debt as a percentage of annual GDP declined from 74% in 2002 to 39% in 2009. In 2012, Turkey had a lower ratio of public debt to GDP than 21 of 27 members of the European Union and a lower budget deficit to GDP ratio than 23 of them.[89]

      The unemployment rate increased from 10.3% in 2002 to 11.0% in 2010.[90]”

      So he’s not a favorite of the debt-as-weapon crowd at the IMF. Let’s continue.

      Erdoğan increased the budget of the Ministry of Education from 7.5 billion lira in 2002 to 34 billion lira in 2011, the highest share of the national budget given to one ministry.[91] Before his prime ministership the military received the highest share of the national budget. Compulsory education was increased from eight years to twelve”

      Oh look at that. He made education a higher priority than the military and even, if you remember, worked diligently to curb the power the military had in the government of Turkey. So I guess he’s not a favorite of the old school generals either. Hmmm….

      and who by the way is the most notable public figure to push the “Erdogan funds ISIS” story OTHER than Webster Tarpley?

      “In early October, United States Vice President Joe Biden accused Turkey of funding IS, to which Erdoğan angrily responded, “Biden has to apologize for his statements” adding that if no apology is made, Biden would become “history to me.” Biden subsequently apologised.[154] In response to the U.S. request to use İncirlik Air Base to conduct air strikes against IS, Erdoğan demanded that Bashar al-Assad be removed from power first.[155]

      Ah. Webster Tarpley pushing the Joe Biden propaganda. Well I guess that makes sense since he was pushing the Obama administration line on Benghazi….

      do I need to say I rest my case?

    • Oh wait… you’ll love this one:

      “In 1974, Erdoğan wrote, directed and played the lead role in a play titled “Mas-Kom-Ya” (Mason-Komunist-Yahudi [Mason-Communist-Jew]), which presented freemasonry, communism and Judaism as evil.[179]

      Erdoğan referred to the Turkish anti-Semitic activist, Necip Fazıl Kısakürek, as his muse. Kısakürek was therefore regarded by some analysts, such as Günther Jikeli and Kemal Silay, as the source of his views on Jews.[180][181][182] Kısakürek’s publications included the Turkish translation of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and praise for industrialist Henry Ford’s The International Jew, as well as a political program in which he wrote: “Chief among these treacherous and insidious elements to be cleansed are the Dönmeh and the Jews”[183][184]

      A 2009 report issued by the Israeli Foreign Ministry, accused Erdoğan of inciting anti-Semitism.[185]

      In 2013, Erdoğan was second place on the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s list of the year’s top ten antisemitic personalities, after Erdoğan blamed the “interest rate lobby” as organizers of the mass protests against him in cities around the country in June 2013.[186] In another quote that was regarded as antisemitic, he said “When the word ‘media’ is pronounced, Israel and Israel’s administration comes to mind. They have the ability to manipulate it as they wish.” He then claimed that not only the international press but also Turkish newspapers were run by Israel.[187]

      In August 2014, during the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict, Erdoğan accused Israel of deliberately killing Palestinian mothers, saying: “They kill women so that they will not give birth to Palestinians; they kill babies so that they won’t grow up; they kill men so they can’t defend their country … They will drown in the blood they shed”. He also likened Israel’s actions to those of Adolf Hitler, saying: “Just like Hitler, who sought to establish a race free of all faults, Israel is chasing after the same target”.[188]

      During the campaign for the Turkish elections in June 2015, Erdogan accused The New York Times of being represented by “Jewish capital” after foreign media outlets expressed concern over the corrosion of freedom of expression in Turkey.[189]”

      So saying Israel wants him gone would be an understatement, wouldn’t it?

      So let’s wrap it all up… Joe Biden wants him gone, the Turkish old-school generals want him gone, the IMF wants him gone… and of course… Israel wants him gone…

      And Webster Tarpley says what about Erdogan’s family being close to the fictional “ISIS”?

    • and seeing as how you want to push Tarpley’s BS over here, ask yourself this about his work: who is he covering for by focusing on Erdogan and saying he’s the biggest supporter of “ISIS”?

      Well, he’s covering for the same people he was covering for when he was ranting about those of us out here researching what happened in Benghazi. That’s who.

      “The problem with America’s “anti-ISIS coalition” is not a matter of poor planning or a lack of resources. It is not a matter of lacking leadership or military might. The problem with America’s “anti-ISIS coalition” is that it never existed in the first place. There is no US-led war on ISIS, and what’s worse, it appears that the US, through all of its allies, from across the Persian Gulf to Eastern Europe and even within Washington itself, are involved in feeding ISIS, not fighting it.

      Going from Syria itself, outward according to geographical proximity, we can trace ISIS’ support all the way back to Washington itself. And as we do, efforts like the “talks” in Vienna, and all the non-solutions proposed by the US and its allies, appear ever more absurd while the US itself is revealed not as a stabilizing force in a chaotic world, but rather the very source of that chaos.” Global Research

      and then there is this

      “The Al-Nusra Front, Al-Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria, has released a grateful video, where they openly thank the Free Syrian Army (FSA), which the US has touted as a “moderate opposition group”, for supplying them with US-made anti-tank TOW missiles (“Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided”).

      A recently released video shows an Al-Nusra Front field commander thanking the FSA commanders for giving his forces TOW missiles, according to a report released by the Iranian news agency FARS.”

      So… who is Tarpley covering for? Once again, he’s covering for the Obama administration. Just like he’s done MANY times.

  2. Erdogan has crushed his military, he’s asserted supreme authority, his troops watched (and were photographed watching) ISIS fight the kurds right on the Turkish border, Syria shot down one of his F4 fighters over Latakia on 22 June 2012 when it was on a reconnaissance mission supporting al Qaeda…and you somehow .still manage to believe he wasn’t behind this? I thought you had more sense.

  3. Why the hostility regarding a different take on Erdogan? If Erdogan was able to pay down the IMF loans in such a short period, then he is clearly in the neo-liberal fold, despite his education budget increasing. He’s also trying to gain EU membership, as far as I know. This means he has to hit a certain target, which he has not. Turkey will keep getting massive amounts of direct military aid regardless of the IMF loans, because the US is not about to give up one of their most important NATO basis in Europe.
    Keep in mind, that even though he may be hostile to Israel’s policies, he’s essentially between a rock and a hard place due to the strategy of tension employed by the US throughout globe.

    Basically, imho, we are talking about an ever increasing and dangerous game of chicken – because the hardliners in the US administration want to provoke Russia, regardless of the risks.

    Has nothing to do with Biden, because he basically prefers an economic war against Russia, but the hot heads want a hot war. How else to divert the attention of US citizens when the real economy is NOT improving and basically run by global hedge funds?

    As an aside, I found it rather curious that today’s emergency meeting of NATO was held in Brussels, despite the highest level of ‘terror’ in the city. Seems that the NATO ministers are not too worried while ramping up the fear level to the nth degree for the general population.

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