Santa Barbara Shooting – Phony “Motive Video” Up for at Least 4 Days Prior to Shooting

by Scott Creighton

Jan10 posted a comment on one of the previous articles I wrote regarding the Santa Barbara shooting incident which included a link to a photo of the crashed car Elliot Rodger was supposed to have been driving the night of his rampage (May 23rd)

That image prompted me to take a look at the Reddit pages dedicated to this event. What I found was interesting to say the least.

Apparently, Mr. Rodger’s “motive video” (the horrible acting job he did) was up on YouTube for at least 4 days prior to the shooting and it had been published on Reddit which garnered it a hell of a lot of attention. And no one did nothing?

You try posting a video on YouTube promising to kill sorority girls at your local campus and see how long it takes YouTube to yank the video and guys in tactical gear to show up at your front door.

I’m guessing it won’t be 4 days (but I’m not all that interested it trying it 😉 )

The shooting took place late Friday night at 9:35pm or so. The video of Elliot Rodger promising to kill a bunch of girls at a sorority house at the college was cross-posted on Reddit on May the 20th.

The link left to the video on the Reddit post has since been deleted, possibly because someone doesn’t want people to know how long it had been there.

It’s interesting to note that many of the comments on the Reddit page mention the fact that Elliot is obviously acting… and not doing a very good job of it.

[–]BourneAgainShell 184 points 14 hours ago

I feel like he was trying to act like some fucking villain from a movie or something.

[–]Feenox 84 points 13 hours ago

Yea, he had a kind of forced evil laugh.

[–]Anarchist_Lawyer 59 points 14 hours ago

It does seem like that’s what he’s doing. I thought he might have been intentionally overacting so that if someone saw the video and the police showed up before his murder spree he could say that he was just playing a part. Or maybe he was just a dickwad who thought his life was a movie, who knows.

[–]SnatchAddict 49 points 13 hours ago

His dad being a movie director may have contributed to that “his life being a movie”.

The suspected gunman’s father was Peter Rodger, an assistant director on 2012 film “The Hunger Games.”

Though they picked up on the staged and artificial feel of the video, the obvious explanation seems to escape these Redditors.

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40 Responses

  1. This sure got buried in a big hurry:
    “Kelly Hoover, public information officer with the Sheriff’s office, confirmed that a second suspect has been apprehended.”
    and
    “One woman, identified as Sierra, told NewsChannel 3 that she was approached by two men in a black BMW.”
    http://rt.com/usa/161268-california-shooting-university-wounded/

  2. His very first video from 3 months ago is him watching a sunset listening to Belinda Carlisle’s “Heaven is a Place on Earth” which is featured in American Psycho. The whole thing plays off of that book and movie. Whether it’s a psyop or not, the kid was 100% role-playing Patrick Bateman. He was probably thinking about murdering his younger brother in the video where he took he brother to the edge of a precipice and got his brother to talk about jumping off.

    • The thing about imagining that you are Patrick Bateman is that you need the charisma and the body to go along with it.

      Elliot had NONE of those attributes.

      I know a lot of guys who had less than a stellar time in high school…but I don’t know of a single one of them going off their nut, whining and then taking others’ lives needlessly.

      The police were remiss in not thinking about having a psychiatrist accompany them on such a visit. Someone trained to see through illusion could have detected the danger Rodger posed to the community at large. Maybe it wouldn’t necessarily have been safe for them to visit in person, but a collar cam trained upon the subject could have helped out.

      • “The police were remiss in not thinking about having a psychiatrist accompany them on such a visit. Someone trained to see through illusion could have detected the danger Rodger posed to the community at large.”

        Either that or the police, who believe it or not are trained to identify people who pose potential threats and do so every day (because their lives depend on it), rightly identified him as a stupid little wannbe actor who posed no threat to anyone. it’s funny how we all have to leap to the assumption that these professionals misdiagnosed the situation without any more input than is offered up by the same press that tells us on a daily basis that gravity brought down the Twin Towers. I mean it is conceivable that perhaps they weren’t clods who were taking in by the “crazed lone gunman’s” magical acting skills, don’t you think?

        Do you really think the guy acting in those videos could create an “illusion” capable of fooling anyone over the age of 3?

        I mean, just maybe, there is something to this aspect of the story that goes a bit beyond the official version. Just sayin…

        • I got you, brother – just playing Devil’s Advocate for a sec.

          This simply doesn’t pass the smell test. The disappearance of the 2nd individual from the BMW in subsequent reports speaks volumes.

  3. You’re way off calling this one a hoax. Step away from the madness…. everything is not a hoax. You just went into the same category as Max Malone and Ed Chiarini in my book.

    • I thought I made it clear to you in my last comment on the other thread… I’m not saying this is a “hoax”… I’m saying the details of Elliot’s involvement are mighty contrived. In fact, the MSM is reporting that his “retribution” video went up only hours prior to the attack and yet, that clearly is not the case. In some cases the media is misquoting one of the witnesses changing her story from having seen two people in the black BMW to only one in order to conform to the official story. That doesn’t mean it’s a “hoax”, that means there’s something seriously wrong with the story. And yes, that kid was acting in that video and since he was, he clearly didn’t have THAT motivation for the attacks. So, you can ignore all of that you want (like you ignored my reply to your first “hoax” comment on the other thread) but we are simply evaluating ALL the evidence.

      Stepping away from the madness does not mean stepping into the dark with eyes wide shut, does it?

    • Murder. Not hoax. Murder. But who did the murdering and why?

  4. So where do the three men stabbed to death in his rooms fit in with his angst against women who snubbed him?

    • bigger penises?

    • He hated guys as much as girls because they were less that him and still getting women. Read his “manifesto” and all your questions will be answered.

    • The roommates were simply “eliminated” Scott pointed had out in a recent post, similar to the slaying of Lanza’s mom, who would have certainly come to his son’s defense, or at least have an account that either contradicted or put serious dents in the official story, even if it was just the timeline of the official narrative.

      If his manifesto is as truthful as his videos and his phony “evil laugh”, none of the 140 pages means much… Deep emotions like hatred, anger, disgust, especially ones strong enough to push someone to go on a killing spree are neither easily faked when not real, nor easily disguised when they are genuine. So, instead of listening to his words, if you watch his face really carefully, there’s really no sign of anything boiling over in him.

      Also, the lack of any signs of true emotions in his speech and on his face could be a sign that he’s either acting (badly), or that he is heavily medicated.

      Scott, I know your views about how SSRI angle is a distraction when it comes to explaining these incidents… And, I have to say, when considered as a direct cause and effect element, you are probably right… But, I have family living in that area, and my niece goes to UCSB (aka party college). A vast majority of these kids are on SSRIs and are subjected to “mental health care” on a regular basis, which makes them a convenient pool of young people who can be fucked with if and when necessary as they voluntarily take any crap that is prescribed to them, and a lot of them do get subjected to hypnosis as a “treatment”. I do not know that this kid is in that category really.. All I know is that this whole thing smells really bad… A very familiar smell from all the other bullshit incidents like this, down to the bullet to the head…

      A footnote: The spot where ER ran over a biker and crashed in to a car happens to be literally right outside my niece’s window. She said she was in her room, heard the noises and gunshots but was scared to look out and did not see anything first hand. I got hopeful that I could get some insider scoop maybe through her friends, and asked her a few questions. My first question was about the witness reports about multiple passengers in the car. She told me that the biker flew off his bike and went through the windshield and fell in to front seat of the car and that is what people saw as the second person. I don’t know how fast you’d need to hit someone to break the windshield of a fancy BMW, but whatever… At face value, it seems a little hard to believe.

      I also asked if she knew the roommates, and all I got was that they were “Korean exchange students”. After a few more questions, I realized she was mostly parroting what she heard on TV rather than any insider scoop or any first (or even second) hand reports i was hoping for. And she was a little shook up, so I did not push. (but I ill try again if I see she has anything to offer, although it sen like TV has already implanted the story in her brain)

      • Lilaleo, I’m glad to hear she is OK. Thanks for the first hand insight. I did see the hole left in the front window and I wondered how that got there till I heard someone crashed up onto the hood of the car, one of the bike riders. But if that was the body, wouldn’t that person still have been in the car when it crashed? I don’t remember reading about that, but I will look into it. It’s interesting. Could be the person bounced off after crashing the windshield, could be he went into the vehicle and is the second person seen. Could also be there were three in the car at that time. I have to look closer at the timeline and where the victims were found. But it’s interesting.

        Again, I’m glad she is alright. Tell her when she hears crashes and gun-shots, she did the right thing… stay where you are and leave the YouTube videos for the idiots.

        • Thank you, Scott. I appreciate it. Yes, the thought of her being one of the blonde girls outside was quite chilling…

          But, when I called my sister, who, like most Americans, gets brainwashed by media and has no idea that it is so, she started ranting about how people could still try to protect the 2nd amendment, that there should be no guns, that this can happen to anyone’s kids, etc. It was heartbreaking to see how indoctrinated she had become, and how many talking points she unconsciously used to analyze what had happened, how many shortcuts she took to reach a prepackaged conclusion…. In fact, she even mentioned how a person with aspergers was dangerous… She has raised an autistic boy, and having been in an out of special need schools, support groups etc. she is actually very familiar with these disorders and has met many kids and teenagers with aspergers. When I asked her if she had ever encountered an aggressive or violent person with aspergers, only then she finally stopped the auto pilot caused by years of media conditioning and said “oh yeah… I don’t think I have”…

          And on a personal note… Finding out this happening within a stone’s throw away from my niece had a secondary bizarreness for me. I don’t know if you remember, but I had mentioned here a few times that I actually knew of a husband and wife who had both lost a foot below the ankle in the boston bombing. I’m not a very social person, and I know only a small circle of people whom I have met as an adult since I came to the US as a young adult. So, the fact the I was separated from a boston victim by only one degree was already one in a million probability. And now this connection to one of these weird and dubious shootings?? What are the chances, right?

          This got me thinking… These events, like many that you write about are either manufactured, massaged or outright fabricated as means to an end. If they do enough of these, that means that almost everyone in the states that can help push new gun laws over the hill, (NY, CT, FL, CA, DC, etc) will eventually be one or two degrees away from one of these events, and be close enough to some ground zero to ultimately think “this could have been me, or my son or my daughter…”

          They are basically seeding the nation… I don’t think they are in a hurry… They will keep pushing it until the day when the numbers start adding up, and they will drive it home with one last gruesome event…

          (Haven’t been commenting on this incident, but I suppose my view about it is clear in my tone… I don’t think this is a spontaneous event… It could have been… But the way media is covering it, the way propagandists are all spinning their stories and releasing the so called manifesto, the way the roommates are killed, the way he is dead on site with gunshot through his head…. Way too familiar of a pattern to be genuine)

          • what do you think the odds are that the video just happened to be posted to the biggest sharing site on the internet 4 days prior to the attacks? anyone else mention ER prior to that on the site?

            • Dunno!!! Maybe as high as buildings pulverizing “due to structural damage, of course”???

              But, I thought Jon proved you wrong already on that point, and you reported him to the FBI, right? ;-))

              How do you do that, by the way??? Did you do a walk in complaint downtown? Or just walked straight to the white van parked in front of your place.? 😜

              • I actually don’t have to go through all that trouble. I’m a reptilian and so all of us are psychically connected to one another, especially the ones at the FBI. It’s either that or they collect and read every word spoken, typed or texted in America these days as a matter of “national security”. I can’t be sure which…

          • “This got me thinking… These events, like many that you write about are either manufactured, massaged or outright fabricated as means to an end. If they do enough of these, that means that almost everyone in the states that can help push new gun laws over the hill, (NY, CT, FL, CA, DC, etc) will eventually be one or two degrees away from one of these events, and be close enough to some ground zero to ultimately think “this could have been me, or my son or my daughter…”

            They are basically seeding the nation… I don’t think they are in a hurry… They will keep pushing it until the day when the numbers start adding up, and they will drive it home with one last gruesome event…”

            Wow. I had not really thought about these things from this exact perspective. This is interesting and you may have hit on something. It makes me think of a beyond far-fetched idea, but if there is an agenda, pattern and/or plan behind these events – a purpose and direction – perhaps some day an epidemiological analysis of these fucked-up events could be coordinated. Perhaps a comprehensive analysis of aggregate data could yield a model of prediction for probabilities of location and nature of the most likely future “events” that could help refine trace-back paths to the sources of such nonsense. It’s just really annoying when bullies beat up people on the playground and then finger someone else for it. It was disgusting and tiring in high school, and it’s disgusting and tiring now. It would be nice to once see an actual exposure of who is paying to blame some idiot kid for mass murder, murder the kid, dump his body, and publish a shit-storm of lies in the news. It just gets old after a while and it would be fantastic to see these clever people put their over-zealous creative energy to some better purpose.

            • and furthering that very good point by Lilaleo.. what is the most powerful agenda setting entity in the country right now? ALEC. What do they do? They push pro-corporatist, neoliberal legislation on a state-by-state basis when they know there isn’t enough support across the country to get made into federal law. These incidents spread out general support for various plans like Bloomberg’s gun-grabbing agenda, but, more specifically, they will put pressure on state lawmakers to accept them due to local pressure from citizens. So it works on two fronts: federal laws and state laws.

              • The American Legislative Exchange Council? They are about to have their 41st annual meeting in Texas. I was not aware that they were particularly nefarious. Have you ever done any articles diving into some of the things they’ve done behind the scenes that’s not generally reported to the public in an honest manner? I’d be interested in learning a little about that. Could make an interesting topic. I didn’t see an ALEC category on the left.

                • I don’t focus a lot on them primarily because of the nature of what I do focus on (primarily psyops, foreign policy and propaganda) but I have done a little in the past. They are probably as influencial as AIPAC but much more quietly and almost always on a state-by-state basis.

                  ALEC V Kids: ALEC’s Assault on Public Education

                  Public Schools for Sale?

                  there are others. I should create a topic heading though, you are right about that. and probably spend more time looking into them. I;ve mentioned them more in comments.

      • ” … vast majority of these kids are on SSRIs and are subjected to “mental health care” on a regular basis, which makes them a convenient pool of young people who can be fucked with if and when necessary as they voluntarily take any crap that is prescribed to them, and a lot of them do get subjected to hypnosis as a “treatment” …”

        This is almost as alarming as the news being discussed. Why would the vast majority of college kids in ANY area be on SSRIs?

        • Good question.

          It’s not the college kids that get prescribed drugs, it’s the high schoolers and even elementary school children, who get put in an education system with an over zealous mental care apparatus, in which any deviance from what is classified as “normal” gets treated with mandatory counseling, where they get administered tests which diagnose them with some bullshit deficiency or another…

          The current “recommended” autism tests are administered as young as 18 months old and even though their diagnostic success rate is quite low, the kids who get caught in the “test positive” fishnet are presented with drugs that claim to “reduce the risk”. If you are a parent freaking out that you might have an autistic kid, that offer might sound super attractive.

          Then there are the middle and upper middle class professionals who have the view that sending their kids to therapy is a good way of dealing with unruly or problematic behaviour. These kids go in to the system at a young age and even if they are not force-medicated, the parents are presented with a menu of miracle drugs that can solve their problems and “normalize” their kids so they can be as dumb and docile as the rest… Go to church, go to the mall, go to school, play ball, get a job and don’t make trouble!!!

          In other words, they are being milled…

          But, maybe I should retract the “vast” part of my statement. Probably an exaggeration… But I’m sticking with the “majority” part…

          • Too bad “emotional problems” and “therapy” have become fashionable. Don’t know if they cause more harm than good, more good than harm, or just waste a shit-load of time, but I can tell you one thing: They definitely generate profits.

          • Absolutely… It’s huge business… A symbiotic relationship between big Pharma, big insurance and big government…

            However, money is just the fuel to run the engine, but not the destination.

            One need not be so afraid of greedy corporations who sell you stuff for money. Their motives are obvious and transparent. As “commoners” it’s a well defined and identified threat to our well being and therefore somewhat easier to take a stance against…

            The scarier ones are the ones who don’t even need money. The likes of Rockefeller foundation, the think tanks, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Soroses, the Rothschilds, Ivy League colleges, the Vatican, the royals, the Kissingers and Brezjnskis of this world, the ideologues, intellectuals and philosophers with a god complex… They don’t care who’s winning the monopoly game, either because they are not interested in money or because they own the board.

            And it is these institutions who implement these mega social engineering projects as they transition their grip on “the people” from a god fearing, bible worshipping formula which started to fade by 19th century, to the law-fearing science worshiping masses they are training for the 21st century.

            Hope as they may, none of them will live to see the results…. But their true power is the conviction with which they go about implementing and executing these schemes that span over decades, and even centuries…. They claim ownership of their tribes, their gods, their secret whatevers, their civilization, however they happen to define those… They are trusted with the survival of whatever entity they have inherited, and will do everything in their power to ensure that. Even if it means drugging and experimenting on a whole generation to tailor society to the future they have planned, killing a few people here and there to scare and herd the sheeple, and killing a few million here and there to gain control of resources…

            • “… from a god fearing, bible worshipping formula which started to fade by 19th century, to the law-fearing science worshiping masses they are training for the 21st century.”

              Great statement. Replacing one religion with another. A form of statism, secularism and science-worship rolled together into the next belief framework to hand the masses as the core from which they can grow their new identities (like when the statement “I’m a Christian” carried with it everything you needed to know that a person was good, honest, intelligent and well-conformed to society).

      • I just tried reading parts of the “manifesto”. Ended up skimming over huge chunks because I simply don’t have time to read the whole thing right now. It really does not seem at first glance like something written by the actual subject, but that’s just how it strikes me. For example:

        “My orchestration of the Day of Retribution is my attempt to do everything, in my power, to destroy everything I cannot have. All of those beautiful girls I’ve desired so much in my life, but can never have because they despise and loathe me, I will destroy. All of those popular people who live hedonistic lives of pleasure, I will destroy, because they never accepted me as one of them. I will kill them all and make them suffer, just as they have made me suffer. It is only fair.”

        It sounds more like a psychologist’s imagined recount of a cartoon caricature of a an evil mastermind. A psychologist who is not a gifted writer at that.

        Who knows though? There really are people crazier than this running around. However, I don’t know if they usually write about themselves in this way. Maybe when it comes to crazy, there really isn’t any “usual” though.

        People explaining to me, gently, kindly of course, that “it’s difficult to imagine how these things can happen, but I just need to accept that there are crazy people and we need better laws to deal with them” just doesn’t seem to curb my suspicion that there’s more going on with some of this crap than an isolated nut going over the edge, all by himself.

        • “It sounds more like a psychologist’s imagined recount of a cartoon caricature of a an evil mastermind. A psychologist who is not a gifted writer at that.”

          Do you remember the “confession” one of the Boston bombing suspects supposedly wrote on the side of the boat? The one they “found” right after a judge nixed the “confession” they got from him during the FBI’s interrogation?

          Do you remember the notebook they ‘found” in the post office supposedly belonging to James Holmes that reportedly contained “stick figure confessions”?

          Here we are, in the wake of this latest mass casualty event, and reportedly, a “manifesto” confession turns up the same night of the stabbing/shooting spree? One written by someone seemingly as skilled as the derp who wrote his “motive monologues”?

          Yes, this sounds like it was written by someone more accustomed to writing copy for commercials rather than an insane serial killer.

          • I’ll admit – I didn’t pay very close attention to the Holmes case – I kind of mentally dismissed it as a media stunt, albeit one where people actually got killed.

            I definitely remember the convenient confession scrawled on the inside of a boat under the most ludicrous circumstances though. That people can believe such rubbish without so much as even questioning it is beyond me. However, I’ll now be off to interact all day with nice people I genuinely like and respect very much who honestly believe it is tantamount to a crime to even question the Boston bomber’s “written confession” on the boat. In their mind, it seems to make sense that he’d want to confess to the world his sins. It also apparently makes sense in their minds that the “suspect” actually had something to do with the event. What does not make sense to the fine people I interact with all day is why anyone would want to question what appears to be an artificially- (and now largely electronically-) imposed “reality” framework upon which a large part of their thoughts, beliefs and actions originate. I guess I’m weird because I find the philosophy behind what we believe to be pretty interesting, especially when you consider it is largely made up and yet important enough for people to routinely kill each other over.

          • I still feel that the stabbing of the roommates is singularly unfitting the portrait of a nut job they are trying to paint. Of all the “men” he’s meant to have hated, I assure you these exchange students would have been at the bottom of the list of those who lived a “hedonistic lifestyle” that he resented so much. In a town like Santa Barbara, he could have gone on the streets, closed his eyes and start shooting and have a better chance to get some of those male bimbos that the “slutty blondes” throw themselves at.

            I suspect the stabbing meme is part of the “next stage” of conditioning we are being subjected to… After all, gun control laws will ultimately pass whether you like it or not… But the real goal is to implement a tight “mental health” control system, which can not be implemented in the absence of a “deadly threat” caused by these dangerous people. The health insurance bill was specifically written to include mental care, which will be a crucial element to controlling the minds of the populous, and having legal precedence and justification for “screening” everyone for possible threats to society. And it will probably be a very short journey from knives to ideas and speech under such a paradigm.

            Just like the law has shifted to “guilty until proven innocent”, we shall have a system where we all will be “mental until proven otherwise” During the Holmes “investigation” and hearings, one major breach has been made to the previously untouchable doctor-patient confidentiality… We can expect this to continue as they are relentless.

            I would watch out for more and more stabbings to be incorporated to these mass murders.

            • either that or they had to be stabbed because they couldn’t very well get away with shooting them and drawing attention to themselves days before the event. stabbing is nice and quiet if done right and trained professionals would know that. ER wouldn’t have cared starting off his killing spree. But someone did. hence the stabbing.

              • Has anyone looked into the 3 police visits ER received? I know one was for doing a citizens arrest on one of his roommates who apparently stole $22 worth of candles from him.

    • How’s a scrawny kid like this stab not one, but THREE guys in his dorm? What, they’re all scrawnier than him, so wimpy, in fact, that together, they can’t fight back, let alone, individually? Nobody screams to warn others of an attacker? He’s just too swift for them? What a load of hoaky shit that only fluoride-impaired ‘merkins could possibly swallow.

  5. The video mentioned by the reddit thread is not the same video as the Elliot Rodger’s retribution video which was pointed out by Noodle36 in the thread 2 days ago:
    “This video wasn’t the death threat video, that was only posted on Friday.”
    The Elliot Rodger’s retribution video was here

    The one mentioned in the reddit video is

    If you would have noticed the video mentioned in the reddit thread was “removed by the user.” The Elliot Rodger’s retribution video was removed “as a violation of YouTube’s policy on violence.”

    Scott you claim conspiracy to cover for your inadequacy as an investigator. You call people liars only based on your delusions.

    BTW Are you feeding information to the FBI because after I wrote in a comment on this blog that the OPR wasn’t investigating the FBI violation of the gag order in the Aurora theater attack, I got visited by members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force to try to again affect my future reporting.

    • and that “future reporting” is what? are you the same “Jon” that reported James Homles did the attack and had stolen some chemicals weapons as well? Are you that Jon?

      yeah, thanks for that stellar contribution to the case.

      Imagine that… here you are throwing out innuendo and smears while simultaneously trying to help gin up support for Google’s cause. what a shock.

      (pst… in case you haven’t been paying attention… do you REALLY think any needs to “report” stuff from the internet, cell phones or emails to the FBI anymore? What is this, 1993?… oh, I get it, just more of your innuendo and smears… got it. thanks)

    • “… after I wrote in a comment on this blog that the OPR wasn’t investigating the FBI violation of the gag order in the Aurora theater attack, I got visited by members of the Joint Terrorism Task Force to try to again affect my future reporting.”

      Why does that sound highly improbable? If the statement is not a lie, perhaps it takes a little more than a single blog comment for the JTTF to get up the activation energy and go talk to someone to “… affect [their] future reporting”.

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