Breaking News: Carey Family Attorney Eric Sanders Seeking Videos of Miriam Carey Incident at White House?

by Scott Creighton

Late this evening I received a Twitter notification that someone had mentioned me in a Tweet. The person who did that was Eric Sanders, the attorney who was representing the Carey family in a custody suit after Miriam had been shot and killed after attempting to leave the White House grounds and being chased and gunned down by Secret Service and Capitol Police half a mile away … while she was unarmed… in front of her then 14 month old daughter.

At this point it’s hard to say what’s behind this effort, but if it is legit, perhaps it will be a good start to finally finding some measure of justice for Miriam and accountability for those who murdered her.

Background:

Days after the shooting, Mr. Sanders made a comment on a Friday when the judge denied the Carey family custody of the child, Erica Carey, that they weren’t going to give up their efforts to gain custody. In a bizarre legal move, Erica had been held by the state for quite some time after the shooting of her mother while Justice Department teams scoured Miriam’s home in hazmat suits careful not to let any DNA out of the condo. The very next business day after Sanders made that comment (a Tuesday since that Monday was a federal holiday) he was arrested on a trumped up federal charge.

It is no secret that I believed and still believe to this day that we are being lied to about the nature of what happened that fateful day.

I know for a fact via police reports and witness statements, that the mainstream media is lying about Miriam trying to “ram the gates” at the White House. There is no damage to the front of her car as anyone can plainly see in the photos taken at the scene. The police report itself clearly states that Miriam had made a wrong turn into the White House access road and turned around before being confronted by Secret Service who were trying to prevent her from LEAVING the grounds when one put a bike rack in front of her. The one eye witness confirmed that he saw her trying to LEAVE the White House grounds when they attempted to stop her.

From the beginning of this awful story I have wondered about the relevancy of little Erica to it all. One of the first articles I wrote about this put forward the notion that she wasn’t just a side-note to the story, but in fact the core of it.

The day Miriam attempted to leave the White House grounds with Erica was the wedding anniversary of Barack and Michelle Obama. I wondered why Miriam, a single mother, would take Erica on that day to the White House after having been on record saying she knew Obama was spying on her and controlling her life.

Though the media universally attempted to portray Miriam as some sort of whacked out loony, her sister made it clear that she wasn’t delusional. Her successful appearing lifestyle would also suggest a measure of responsibility that doesn’t lend itself to the “lone nut driver” story we were being spoon-fed by every single MSM outlet.

Another interesting facet of the case is how every single outspoken African American advocate suddenly went dead silent when an unarmed 34 year old black woman was gunned down in broad daylight by Obama’s secret police force and the House of Representatives had the unmitigated gall to give them a 5 minute standing ovation for doing so.

Something was horribly wrong with the story. Lies were being peddled by every news agency with a consistency not seen since the pre-Iraq invasion. The story seemed doomed to quietly slip down the proverbial rabbit hole. Short of a DNA test, the only possible evidence that could surface would be videos taken from the scene by White House security cameras showing exactly how and when Miriam and Erica entered the White House grounds and the circumstances of their attempt to leave unmolested by Obama’s secret police.

Little Erica’s alleged father (Miriam’s boyfriend at the time) took custody of her and the story has grown cold ever since.

No justice for Miriam Carey has been handed out. No so much as a reprimand for gunning down an unarmed woman in the streets of DC for making a wrong turn onto White House grounds.

But that might change.

Breaking news;

As I stated earlier, there has been a development.

Eric Sanders after being released from federal lockup came across some of my writing on the Miriam Carey story. I and a few others like Dr. James Manning and Raw Story, understand that there is something else to this tragic event and Eric came across our efforts. Dr. Manning has gone so far as too claim that Miriam’s sister has called for a DNA test on little Erica. I don’t know if that is true or not. I do not endorse forcing anyone’s child to submit DNA for such a test. It’s an invasion of her privacy that she is far too young to understand and I don’t feel decisions like that are anyone’s business but her direct relations, in this case her aunts and her grandmother.

Sanders and I exchanged Tweets for a short period. We don’t exactly see eye to eye on this case but I think it’s fair to say we both agree there MUST be some kind of effort made to extract a measure of justice for Miriam from the Capitol Police and the Secret Service. No agency (or man for that matter) is above the law and their standing operating procedures in this case were definitely violated resulting in Miriam’s violent and needless death.

On that point, Mr. Sanders and I are in complete agreement.

At one point I wrote that the White House had to have had security cameras at that location which would tell at least one part of the story of how Miriam died that day. Not all of it, but part of it.

This evening, out of the blue, I received a notification that I had been mentioned on Twitter. This is what it said.

The link left by Mr. Sanders in the Tweet takes you to a longer tweet he posted in which he explains that he has taken some time to “observe” Capitol Police and Secret Service procedures and has formulated a conclusion about what may have happened that day.

What does that mean? Does it mean he has conducted his own private investigation into their policies and procedures or does it mean they brought him in to quell dissent on this caustic issue and he’s now going to come out with some kind of story to put the whole thing to bed?

Hard to say at this point, but he did offer up one more interesting bit of news: he’s attempting to get security camera videos from local buildings that would have captured the incident at the White House gate where it all supposedly started.

Here is Eric Sanders’ full Twitter statement:

Over the past couple of days, while in Washington, D.C., I had an opportunity to observe police operations of the Metropolitan Police Department, United States Secret Service – Uniform Division and United States Capitol Police, specifically, around the White House and United States Capitol grounds, along with the immediate areas around the District of Columbia. The purpose of the observations was to rebut and/or support various theories as to how this police interaction with Miriam resulted in her untimely avoidable death. Without giving away all of my observations of their respective police operations, I can see how the shooting of Miriam unfolded.

The key to understanding Miriam’s untimely avoidable death begins at the corner of 15 Street NW and Pennsylvania Avenue NW (United States Department of Commerce building) or E Street (White House entrance checkpoint), which is essentially the same corner. More importantly, cameras located atop of the United States Commerce building and the W Hotel aka Hotel Washington 515 15th Street NW probably gave a clear and unobstructed view of Miriam’s direction, rate of travel towards and into the White House entrance gate and away from the White House entrance gate.

We are going to get to the bottom of this incident.

Notice how this is phrased. He states the purpose of the observation was to refute and/or support various (conspiracy) theories about this case.

To me that’s odd. I would think the purpose of anyone’s efforts at that particular location would be to try to figure out how Miriam was shot and killed for making a wrong turn onto White House grounds. Do you know that there have been 6 people over the last 50 years or so who have attempted to actually break into the White House, two of which were armed and opened fire on the White House grounds striking the building. Do you know how many of them were gunned down in the street?

Zero.

Not a single one of the people who have attempted to bust into the White House have been killed and I think only one was shot… in the leg.

Miriam was shot a half a mile away multiple times, unarmed, for LEAVING the White House grounds… in front of a 14 month old child.

Given those historical facts, it’s curious to me why the Carey family lawyer would spend time as a guest of the agencies who took her life, trying to “refute and/or support” the ‘conspiracy” theories as to the specifics of that particular murder.

Without actually saying he is going to do so, it would appear that Mr. Sanders is implying that he intends to get the security camera videos from those two buildings in an effort to see if they show Miriam entering the White House grounds and leaving them.

But he seems rather careful to not actually claim that is what he is going to do. Instead, he infers it and in the legal eagle mind of Mr. Sanders, that’s a rather big difference.

If Mr. Sanders really wants to know what happened, he should go through whatever legal hoops he has to in order to get his hands on the security camera footage of that corner from the White House itself. They SURELY have working video security. Without a doubt there is footage from that day of what happened at that guardhouse.

And it would be pretty much the same process as trying to get the videos from the W Hotel and the Commerce Building seeing as how the Justice Department and the FBI and/or Capitol Police certainly grabbed up any local video security camera footage from that day for “national security” reasons. He’s going to have to go through the Secret Service to get any of those videos anyway, might as well get all of them, right?

But that’s assuming they still exist which they almost certainly don’t.

I don’t know what to think about Mr. Sanders’ “breaking news” at this point.

Part of me wants to think that he’s making an effort to get to the bottom of all of this but another part of me smells a rat.

I know how they work. They need to put this “conspiracy theory” to bed. They always do. So they come along a few months after the fact with an insider to offer up a very controlled new narrative which is slightly more honest than the old one, but still, not completely kosher. They did it with Benghazi they did it with the ridiculously staged bin Laden strike story. They do it all the time. It’s important in the historical context.

What could have happened goes something like this: they brought Sanders in, scared the shit out of him by letting him see the raw power of the Secret Service yet did so subtlety by taking him around kinda like a VIP for a day. Gave him a handler to walk him through the operation who explained the carefully scripted storyline for him of how “miscommunication” and “9/11 panic” got the best of a good system that fateful day. Then they end up giving him a couple clips of a video from way over across the street somewhere… not a full video of her leaving and turning around and exiting as the story goes… but a couple of edited clips of her car entering and then sometime later, exiting the building.

Sanders comes away with a tragic story, but a story of a mistake, rather than a deliberate act.

If that’s the case, and we will know soon enough, then Mr. Sanders will be playing a role in the cover-up of the Miriam Carey murder.

If on the other hand Mr. Sanders comes out of this with handfuls of nothing, then we can make a determination as to his intent at that time depending on his next step.

However, and this is why I bothered to write this… if on the slim chance Mr. Sanders is actually doing this in order to get to the bottom of Miriam’s murder (that’s the third time I wrote that and it was murder. Accident or not, they chased her, saw she was unarmed through the window of the car, saw the kid in the car, opened fire anyway, and eventually shot her dead standing beside her car unarmed. That’s murder folks) and he comes away with videos from those two locations and starts a process to get the White House security recordings, then in that case he’s doing a rather noble and selfless thing, opening himself up to more legal issues and painting a target squarely on his forehead.

With that possibility in mind, after all this time researching and writing about finding justice for Miriam and Erica, I stand with Mr. Sanders in his efforts to produce these important videos. It won’t tell us the whole story and quite probably will look a little like the Pentagon Flight 77 videos, but at this point it’s a start. Hopefully it’s a start born of good intentions to finally get some justice for Miriam.

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62 Responses

  1. It’s amazing that you maintain such a sense of faith in people. I think it is highly, highly unlikely that Mr. Sanders will turn up anything other than deception. After his quick turn-around post-arrest, he seems to have gotten his mind right.

    Most troublesome aspects of this situation from the perspective of a complete outsider:
    1. Multiple shooters gun down unarmed woman and keep shooting after there could be no doubt that she was no threat.
    2. No actual investigation
    3. Standing ovation from congress (WTF??!!??)
    4. Scoured and cleansed her apartment (how often does that happen?)
    5. Lawyer arrested immediately upon mention of custody case
    6. No word from Al Sharpton
    7. No word from Jesse Jackson
    8. Very little media coverage and no apparent calls for full investigation.

    The lawyer who changed his tune so quickly after being arrested will simply die or be suddenly exposed as a racketeer if he is serious about changing his mind and going back on the cooperation deal he obviously made. If he doesn’t have an accident or wind up convicted in a surprise exposure of past crimes, he is probably cooperating with the “make this go away” effort.

    I’m afraid this case is likely to be quite personal to an individual with current power and resources and a lot of incentive to limit its exposure. This could be quite different than political issues involving larger groups and entire countries. As such, it could be a dangerous can to open. If you get anywhere with this, I worry about your site surviving it.

    • We have been down this rabbit hole too many times. Winston nailed it. This is exactly what your gut tells you. Nothing to see here folks …lets keep moving.

  2. If you really knew me, you would know that I am nobody’s shuffler. Again, I was no one’s guest. I performed this analysis alone. I will not disclose everything I was able to find out. That information is only for the Carey family. LOL your reporting and assumptions are quite interesting.

    • Fair enough. I don’t know you. I could definitely be wrong and I hope I am. I have not done any reporting – only assumptions based on what I’ve read. It’ll be interesting to see if anything comes out of this.

    • Just occurred to me you were probably responding to Scott’s article and not my comment. I think his interpretations are interesting too, but probably for a different reason. I suspect his interpretations are pretty accurate.

    • Mr. Sanders… If you are indeed sincere about trying to obtain videos, may the force be with you… If history is any reference, the odds of succeeding in obtaining definitive, unedited videos are pretty much zero.

      Would you care to update us, within the obvious limitations of not divulging too much as an attorney representing the Carey family, about the custody and paternity cases, and where the legal process stands at the moment?

      Also, what about the timeline of Miriam’s journey from CT to DC? Do you know when she left CT? Where and when she stopped for gas? Do you have her cell phone records? Text messages? Her late model luxury car must have certainly had a navigation system, and probably OnStar… In the absence of video footage, would those not provide a timeline of her actions, including when she approached (or entered) the white house…?

      And, I can’t resist asking: What is the “LOL” in your comment about?

    • My assumptions sir are based on years of investigative journalism, learning how the establishment fixes certain problem stories.

      As I stated in the article, I don’t know what exactly is going on here. I certainly hope that you are interested in seeking justice for Miriam and Erica which is exactly what I wrote.

      But in the end, I have to say, due to the wording of your announcement, I had my doubts.

      Now, you say you were not brought in by the SS and the Capitol Police to “observe” their procedures? Is that the case? You observed them on your own or via a private investigator? That’s a different story. Vastly different as you can probably imagine.

      You could have made that clear in your Twitter statement. Making that clear now isn’t a bad idea either.

      My position is clear. I support your efforts in obtaining these videos and as I stated before, I hope that you expand your efforts to include the official White HOuse videos as well.

      My thing is this: what happened to Miriam REQUIRES us all to cling to any and all efforts to seek justice for her. That determination however does not make us blind and dumb. You shouldn’t fault me for that. In fact, if you are really interested in seeking justice for Miriam and Erica, you should applaud me for it.

      I know how this shit works. I’ve seen it done many times in the past.

      perhaps you would be better served finding someone who understands the terrain you have found yourself in while you navigate through this process. at this point, a bit of skepticism wouldn’t be all that crazy, would it?

      but like I said. At this point, in this investigative effort of yours, I’m behind you all the way. I just hope you have eyes open and understand … we do as well.

  3. If a child had happened to be across the street and saw them shoot her down, that child would surely have flipped them off. Children are more honest than most adults, and not afraid to say that the emperor is naked

  4. Know this Mr Sanders. More eyes than you can count, are watching via American Everyman. This site was one out of only a few others where the truth (facts) relative to this case could be obtained. And those other sites visit here to round out their facts. Whats that tell you?

    Now sir, I got just one more thing to submit to you. A favor, if you will.

    Should you find yourself standing in front of that scoundrel known as Big Al Sharpton, tell him I said to “go to Hell”.

  5. hum…honey-trap? rabbit-hole? I suppose we’ll all never know if there ever even was a “Miriam” to “get justice for”, anymore than whether there was a real Adam Lanza or a revised copy Ryan Lanza. Personally it seems like a diversion from the focus of your energies. Nevertheless, best to you.

    • What could possibly be the motive for pretending that the secret service gunned down an unarmed woman and then congress gave a standing ovation for it? If the whole thing was fake someone would have to expend the energy to pull off the illusion. Why would anyone ever do something this insanely idiotic on purpose?

      • “At about 2:12 PM, a vehicle driven by Miriam Carey struck one of the White House barriers at the intersection of 15th St. and E St. NW across from Pennsylvania Avenue. NW. Secret Service attempted to arrest her but she continued to drive the car evasively, colliding with one officer who fell on the hood of the car and rolled off.[2][3] Police gave chase up Pennsylvania Avenue and attempted to box her car in with at least four marked Secret Service cruisers at Garfield traffic circle, on Capitol Hill grounds. Secret Service officers got out of their cars and surrounded her with guns drawn, shouting orders. Carey eluded the box-in by backing into the Secret Service cruiser behind her and driving away at high speed up Constitution Avenue, nearly striking half a dozen uniformed Secret Service officers in the process. She got as far as the northeast corner of the Capitol grounds, in the vicinity of the Hart Senate Office Building, where she was forced off the road and fatally shot by United States Capitol Police.
        A shelter in place order was issued for the Capitol building during the incident”.

        And this makes sense to you?

        Again….”A shelter in place order was issued for the Capitol building during the incident”.

        All of our elected officials were in lock down. All part of the “drill”? Or no? Marshall Law was enacted for the entire Capitol of elected officials. I love their new sugar coated phrase “Shelter in Place” – makes you feel all warm and cozy-Marshall Law, all our elected officials in lock down and you ask about a motive?

        • “And this makes sense to you?”

          Actually … no, not really.

          ”A shelter in place order was issued for the Capitol building during the incident”.

          I missed this detail. It is kind of odd to declare a miniature martial law because of a woman with a baby in the back seat, no matter how erratically she seems to be driving. Thanks for pointing that out.

          • Yeah, for me, only Jack Bauer could’ve pulled that one off, a clip perhaps out of Die-Hard or something. They had months and months to prepare for this “drill” as every drill, perhaps they decided to consult straight with Hollywood on this one and bypass realistic input from actual on the ground policemen.

          • Well, I was really going after the 2 fold motive for this creation: 1) to continue the destabilization program via race card and 2) to remove the current “public” Capitol Police Department and replace with a privatized military force controlled by the White house as they are currently seeking to do throughout the US via para-military forces. They want to shine a spotlight on how “awful” “prejudice” and “trigger happy” all of our public police officers are. No, I am not naive there is corruption & brutality. But apparently the “would you fire on your own citizens” training isn’t going well (except apparently with Capitol police in DC) In the case of the Capital. It’s not enough to rely on just the protection of the SS (notice- the SS was mentioned all through the “scene”- but in the final end- it was the Capitol police that brutally gunned down poor black, unarmed, mentally ill, didn’t take her medication, single mother, in front of her baby, heard “Obama” calling her: “Miriam”) not those loyal, law-abiding SS agents.

  6. From WND:
    Miriam Carey’s sister, Valerie Carey, is a former New York City police officer, as is the attorney representing her family, Eric Sanders.
    WND asked Sanders, based on his experience as a police officer, if he believed police should have shot out the tires on Miriam’s car.

    “No, there should be no shooting at all,” he said. “They had no basis to shoot. You can’t shoot at a fleeing car” due to “a whole host of safety reasons.”

    That’s a violation of police protocols in almost every big city in the country, he said.

    As for fears that Carey may have been carrying an explosive device, Sanders said that was all the more reason not to shoot at her.
    Sanders thinks there may be another factor at play and has asked the Department of Justice to investigate the shooting.

    He has requested a civil rights investigation because, he told WND, “Although we never overtly mentioned it, we believe race was a factor in the police decision to discharge their weapons.”

    • Huh?..Is it true that you have to “ask” the Department of Justice to investigate a shooting that is remotely near the White-house? Is he suggesting there wasn’t an investigation? Or that he himself doesn’t have a copy of the investigation? Is he suggesting the police filed a report and that was that? And those 2 supposed Congressmen that were supposedly clapping, (who really knows when, where, how, or why that clip was shown) these 2 Congressmen (whom had a serious PR problem) weren’t interested in any kind of investigation? So NO ONE in the White-house was interested in an investigation? Just the attorney for “Miriam” who’s sister happens to be a cop for the NYPD and the now attorney who also worked for the NYPD? Sander’s and Sander’s alone, has “asked” the Justice Department for an investigation?
      Well, it’s really good to know that the White-house just minds it’s own business all the time and leaves the “investigating” up to victim’s families attorney’s to ask for one. Must make the DA’s job in DC real easy.
      “we believe race was a factor in the police decision to discharge their weapons.”
      I get the “LOL” – “That information is only for the Carey family. LOL ”
      sigh… why do I see another “race card” soon to be played? Let’s do the count since 2008 of “occurrences” contributing to the following “cards of destabilizing American’s” program in progress (feel free to add you own numbers)

      Race Card: 4 (only 4 distinct events come to mind)
      Class Card: (should I start with Wisconsin?) 4
      Fear (gun-control) Card: 5
      Fear (Collapse/Debt ceiling -budget) Card: 7
      Fear (Police Brutality) Card: 9
      Fear (the “t” word events) Card: 2
      Party (there are no Dems or Pubs) Card: (Too many to count)
      NOTE: After tomorrows “State of the Union” speech, will be able to and to all above cards.

      • I think you probably realize this, but “race” and “class” are essentially the same thing. “racism” has always been about economic class (skin color is only a statistically-correlated feature) and economic class has always been about who can make sure who else does not steal their stuff or take their life.

        • It is sadly true that in most parts of the world the skin color determines economic value for opportunity. However, the classes- your economic value can cross divides & open opportunity, no matter what your race is, that’s the difference to me.

      • We could probably add the cybercrime/cybersecurity and mental illness (more fear) cards to the list.

        • I did forget those, important too. People running around on “medications” and/or forgetting to take them don’t need guns & perhaps they need to consider “forced” medicating folks to keep our streets safe from barricade intruders. And yes, absolutely, only bankers and corporatist should be allowed cyber-crime and cyber-security rights.

      • Michelle, you are quite likely to be correct on the race card. Should be right around the corner if not superseded by a convenient distraction. Security at the Olympics seems to be a likely candidate for all things “take your mind off of “.

    • Please, please, please STOP bringing up race. We are all just people. Every time someone brings up race where it is unnecessary I can only think they are intentionally (or unintentionally) fanning flames of hatred and division. I’m sorry – I realize that is probably not your intent, but it nonetheless serves someone else’s purposes, and it would be nice if people could see through that.

  7. “we believe race was a factor in the police decision to discharge their weapons.”

    WELL HELL,,,,,,thats right up ole Big Al’s,,, alley. Racism ! Big Al would starve if it wasen’t for racism. He’ed have never been that ole skanky long haired beedie eyed weasel lookin fool that he was but for his bread and butter, racism.

    • Until proven otherwise (and I am open for that) I contend that there was no “Miriam” there was no “baby” There was a black car driven by ______ (fill in the blank) that ran into a barricade, and shots fired upon it (as directed) as it was the last day of “the drill”. Capital Shield 2014, Curious, DC as Baltimore, Oakland etc and other populations that have a high proportion of African Americans residing in it, going to work everyday, driving up and down streets, going to the store, picking up their kids, you know, living normal lives, but somehow, the DC police, opened fire on this single mother (with a mental illness) that barreled into a barricade because there was “a race factor”? I admit, some-where’s let’s say like, Bend Oregon (African Americans 145), well – yeah- may have “over-reacted” if they had a race bent police force, but DC? Well… ok… I’ll just let the word “drill” permeate some more first….

      • ‘ Well, ain’t that nice. Any woman who holds a responsible job and tries to stand on her own feet…. and doesn’t take beatings by a hateful man….. hey… she has to be mentally ill…. so says the man who abused her…..
        and so repeats those who want to ‘end’ the anger toward her murderers.

      • I don’t suppose there would be any public record of scheduled drills that could corroborate your hypothesis? If it turned out there was indeed a drill being conducted, where would that leave all of the actions (and arrest) of the lawyer?

        • http://www.army.mil/article/112009/Capital_Shield_2014___First_responders_to_train_in_nation_s_capital
          “Miriam” Last day of drill Oct. 3rd
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_%282013%29 and as f
          As for the “arrest” of Sander’s – you might do a FOIA of the arrest to find out if indeed that even happened. As I said, I am open to changing my opinion and be “proved” wrong. Until then, it’s all just speculation and opinions anyways.

          • I’ll admit this is interesting because of the timing, but it amounts to speculation rather than evidence. The wikipedia article does not discuss drills, but reiterates the date of Oct. 3, 2013 when the (alleged) shooting took place. The army article does not discuss Miriam Carey, but talks about the schedule for next year’s (2014) drills, which appear to be scheduled to end on Oct. 3. Is there evidence that there was actually a drill running on Oct. 3, 2013?

            • The “evidence” the drill “was running” – in my opinion- was “Miriam”. That is my point. Look, it’s just my opinion as others have theirs. Either there was no “Miriam” or the Capitol Police were set up.
              “Secret Service officers got out of their cars and surrounded her with guns drawn, shouting orders. Carey eluded the box-in by backing into the Secret Service cruiser behind her and driving away at high speed up Constitution Avenue, nearly striking half a dozen uniformed Secret Service officers in the process”.. does this seem remotely plausible to anyone? Special trained SS of usually military/CIA/FBI backgrounds, box-in, draw guns, and not one of them think to – I don’t know- maybe shoot the tires out? She’s in a “box-in” officer’s out with guns drawn, how fast could she have been going exactly? Have you ever “backed” into another car (cruiser in this case), do you know how long it takes to pick up speed and get out of it? Are they suggesting she levitated over the cruiser? Was it a set-up (If it happened at all)? A radio-ed order to Capitol police” – “Suspect “dangerous” “kill on sight”? None of these things we know. So here’s my OPINION how it will play out from here:
              1) Sander’s obviously in a hurt, need’s ka-ching & off the hook for his teetering practicing license- he goes along as he is-pressuring “Holder”- “Holder” is useless, as we all know, not one high profile bankster in prison yet. Needs a PR face-lift. “Holder” at some point “relents to this “pressure” files charges against Capitol Police- wins(done deal)- Capitol Police now under Federal control, he looks great, African-Americans (an all other “incensed about “Miriam”) have “justice” since race card will heavily play out also, & dual-agenda met, or
              2) Nothing will happen or come of this spectacle because there was no “Miriam” in the first place.
              If people really want to help “Miriam” and there really is a “Miriam”- why not contact the “father” (who by the way, is the baby’s natural father, and SHOULD have custody, regardless of the picture painted) and see what assistance can be given to aid him in this terrible time, if there is a “Miriam”. You’d think more than anyone, it would be the “father” wanting “justice” regardless of his painted character that none of us really know anything about. You want to “help” “Miriam”- then help the baby. Because all the rest of this is a pony-show.

            • Another “opinion” for you to examine if you want:

              • This is very interesting. Thank you. I was not trying to challenge your opinion or logic at all, BTW – I was only asking if there was more conclusive documentation. Something that I did not understand was that “Capital Shield 2014” apparently referred to the drill at the end of 2013, rather than the plan for 2014? That is pretty suspicious, with the big event having taken place on Oct. 3. It is certainly not out of the question whether several “facts” in this case (including the ones I listed in my first comment) actually even exist, up to and including the existence of the alleged victim(s).

                A huge danger I see in the growing awareness of the magnitude of lies and deception by our media and government is that the blatant fabrication of events can be used in multiple ways. These fabricated Gladio events are used apparently to steer public perception to a point allowing passage of more legislation shifting power further away from the average citizen and more into the hands of the already fabulously wealthy and powerful. However, with so many of these idiotic episodes going on and the inescapable consequence that more and more people start to realize it, a real murder by employees of our government could be effectively covered up by planting the notion that it was a drill and the victim(s) never really even existed. Let me stress I am not saying that is the case here. Only that I don’t know how to tell the difference aside from the age-old methods of lots and lots of investigation and logical deduction. The same could be true for the “Snowden leaks”. They pave the way for fabricated electronic “evidence” of any crime you planned to commit (and had no idea that you did) because nobody will question that the government had full access to all of your communications throughout the history of most of your life. Nobody will listen when you try to deny that fabricated evidence is not real. After ll, they will have that evidence and you will have no way of physically proving your innocence. Turns the “innocent until proven guilty” thing on its head, because someone will always be able to prove anybody’s guilt for anything and it will be on the defense to prove that they are lying. One certainly cannot use news reports at face value. They do, however, have enormous value in terms of examining the nature of their inconsistencies and physically impossible “facts”.

          • I’ll admit I’ve never done a FOIA request, but I understand from John Young (cryptome.org) that immediately after 9/11, the usefulness of the process was effectively shut down, and it takes an act of God and a lot of perseverance over a long period of time to squeak out any heavily-redacted material from FOIA. Apparently, the system worked prior to 9/11, but that event allowed the justification to shut that down along with the myriad other “national security” concerns.

    • Damn well said – Thank you! I’m glad someone has eyes and a brain.

  8. Suggesstion:Why not take a look at how many people of color are working for the Secret Service and the US Capitol Police.I am willing to bet the numbers are very small!

  9. U figure it out!

    • Oooo.. A riddle!

      If I could figure it out, I wouldn’t have asked. It was a sincere question… I do not have access to secret service and capitol police force’s racial statistics… Do you?

      • I certainly could not figure that out either, just FYI. I cannot for the life of me understand how the ethnic distribution of secret service agents is in any way relevant to this case.

        • Some of it is the dog/squirrel effect… When people are so conditioned (or programmed) to look at only the most obvious aspect of any incident, the race of the victim is the first thing that sticks out, especially if one were so inclined to observe events through “colored” lenses, then the “black-ness” of Miriam Carey drowns all of the other nonsensical aspects of this surreal incident… (whether real or drill or hoax)…

          That part of human nature, I understand well… I have been living on this planet for a while now…

          That said, the way Sanders, as the family lawyer, is bringing up the race issue to the forefront does create a lot of question marks in one’s mind…

          Perhaps (if he is genuine) he feels that he can gain some traction by using the good old, time tested race card., and get some attention from the presstitutes.. Considering the lack of coverage of, and investigation into this event, I wouldn’t blame him for doing that (once again, if indeed he is genuine)

          Even then, Barney’s (as well as other posters here and everywhere else) racial reference seems to serve no other purpose than to inject race on to this page and the MCarey discussion in general… And his cocky and dismissive reply tells me that was his whole purpose. I wouldn’t be surprised if that recent black porn site post you pointed out had something to do with Carey as well… (Poisoning the well)

          If Michelle (above) is right, and this was indeed a drill, a hoax, etc., perhaps that was the whole motive all along.. To inject race in to the public’s psyche…

          If you remember, in the same period, there were many psyops going on, almost all with black perpetrators and/or victims, from navy yard to the woman who was shot dead by a white man on his porch… Which had felt a little off script, contrasting with yesteryear’s “white, self radicalized male”…

          Who the hell knows what these fuckers are up to… By the time we figure things out, they have already moved on to the next stage… so we are always trailing behind…not to mention that we are constantly helping them out by pointing out their weak spots on pages like this one.

  10. “If Mr. Sanders really wants to know what happened, he should go through whatever legal hoops he has to in order to get his hands on the security camera footage of that corner from the White House itself.”

    This will only be possible if the Pentagon Camera Grab wasn’t repeated here.

  11. #Justice4MiramCarey Ex-NYPD Cop Now Turned NY Civil Rights Attorney Eric Sanders Hunts for Truth http://ow.ly/t5SOF

    • Let’s see- we got Sander’s, who had multiple fines & liens, with an order to pay per bankruptcy order, and multiple orders to Appear in Court, who disregarded all of them, resulting in a arrest warrant being issued (ALL Americans who FTA are subject/issued Arrest Warrants) that indeed does get arrested (under lawful order), who is over 200,000 in debt (minimally) and now, because of arrest, faces possible revocation of his license to practice (that’s what happens when you break the law-ask anyone) whose former partnership with Goldman resulted in the Bankruptcy BECAUSE an employee won a judgement of “DISCRIMINATION” due to being relieved of duties (unlawfully) because she was pregnant, who now has “turned” “civil libertarian” is gonna bring “justice” to “Miriam”. Another normal day in the spectacle of media.

      • Nice. In other words, if you want any “justice” or even any confirmed facts about this case, the lawyer may not be the most trustworthy source. I think I’m convinced that ignoring him is probably the most conservatively viable option.

  12. The latest…

    “U.S. sued over unarmed mom’s D.C. killing

    Family seeking $75 million after woman shot dead by federal agents”

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/u-s-sued-over-unarmed-moms-d-c-killing/#DQ2DyjIYK7hTBEpp.99

  13. The government will pay them off to keep it out of the news!

  14. NY Lawyer Eric Sanders Files $200 Mil Claim Against DOJ Alleging False Arrest, Imprisonment and Judicial Impropriety http://buff.ly/1WLBNxa

    • Mr. Sanders,

      Would,you be able to provide any information at all in regards to Miriam’s daughter? Is Miriam’s family allowed to see her, and spend time with her? To your knowledge, has there ever been a paternity test performed to determine whether or not this “estranged ex-boyfriend” who was given her custody is indeed the father?

      • I wonder if Mr. Sanders ever thought it was odd that they sent a hazmat team to completely scrub her condo of the kid’s DNA right after Obama’s secret service gunned her down in the street in broad daylight. I mean… who does that in a “crazed driving lady” case anyway.

        • As I had once said to you, I really think you’d make a terrible hostage negotiator…. :-))))

          I was trying to take the more subtle approach of striking a conversation with the one and only attorney, among the many in all these cases we are interested in, who’d come to your site to leave comments.

          But, now that you popped my bubble, I’ll say this:

          It is highly likely that the suing for money part was part of the arrangement that Mr. sanders might have made with the DOJ during his “imprisonment”… He handles and manipulates the family through a labyrinth of legal,procedures designed to shut the family up for as long as possible, in return for a few million bucks that the DOJ would settle out of court, which is payday for Mr. Sanders.

          Mr. Sanders…. I very much would love to believe in your sincerity and good intentions in this case, but… There is something seriously wrong about not just the alleged murder of Miriam Carey (alleged, because we can’t even reliably confirm that she was in the car, or that she is actually dead… ) but also the pace of the process. Have you been provided with full video footage of Miriam BEFORE she slammed into the barricade? Have you established why she drove hundreds of miles with her daughter from CT to DC? What is the legality of the child’s custody being given to an ex boyfriend, in a very expedited fashion, without proof of paternity? Who was the last person she spoke to before the shooting, and who was the last person she spoke to before hitting the road with her toddler? Do you have her phone records?

          And lastly, why Is the suit the family brought for the wrongful murder of their daughter/sister is for 75 million, while your suit for a 24 hour wrongful imprisonment is for 200 million??? And, if they lose, but you end up winning, will you be sharing the proceeds with the family at all?

          • my question is, why did he come back here and post this update in the first place? If you look at my coverage of this entire affair, including how I covered his efforts, and then you look at the exchange in the comment section, he had to have known his update wouldn’t be well received.

            That being the case, I just checked on a hunch I had to start with… this comment is from a different IP address than all his previous ones. It’s either someone trolling him or an internet company hired to help him refurbish his “brand”. Couple that with the fact that it’s not even supposed to be his words, just an announcement of a link. Sanders wasn’t like that at all. I could be wrong, if it is him, he’s just doing some ham-handed damage control.

            My guess is… not him.

            • Honestly, Scott, I did not consider that…. AT ALL!!!! This would make all my points, my “subtlety” approach, my questions and wise ass remarks totally moot.

              So, OK!!! I am putting you back on my list of “possible candidates for hostage negotiation team” ;-}] Afterall, it’d be very useful to find out if there are actually hostages before you start negotiating… And you are so good at that.

              • I will take that as a compliment, but I shouldn’t be on any hostage negotiation team, that’s for damn sure. I don’t have the temperament for it and everyone always says I have a “tone”… not sure what that means but it can’t be a good thing to have when negotiating for hostages.

                Like I said, it could have been him, running around spamming up old sites he listed back when he was in the news… but it sounds more like a professional internet spin service to me. Figured I would bait him and play the “bad” to your “good” cop and see what happened.

                But yeah, your question about his 200 million dollar lawsuit verses the family’s “mere” 75 million dollar one for wrongful death was spot-on. That tells you a lot about the prick. I do think he was held in custody a little longer than 24 hours though. I think it was about a week if I’m not remembering that incorrectly. They ran and got him on the Tuesday following his filing the motion to get the girl back and he was out of communication til, I think, the next Weds. or so (a week later) so it might have at least taken them a little while to get Mr. Sanders’ mind right.

              • I stubbed my toe the other day. I wonder if I could make some money blaming Putin for that as well.

                • In the Now on RT just put up a short video where it talks about The Guardian praising someone for setting fire to the front door of the FSB building. Oh those fabulous double standards.

                • Oh yeah, Paul Craig Robert’s latest piece offers another glimpse at a faux-Left government — this time in Portugal. Is there no winning Mr. Creighton? Sure seems that way.

                  • I don’t know. Theres a good article at Greencrowflies that asks that same question and based on the current events, I have to wonder myself. But we are talking about timelines, you know. I still think Gandhi was right. At first they ignore us, then laugh at us, then fight us then we win. Or something like that. well, it’s a matter of perspective… so we aren’t as far along on the timeline as we thought. Or we have underestimated the duration of the fight part of that equation. I think unfortunately we have to get to the point where we understand what the term “political prisoner” means. What “disappeared” means on a personal level. You know, a few silenced truth-tellers, real ones, are nothing… not in terms of the history of them installing this ideology on other nations. We are going to have to get to the point where writing stuff like this is really dangerous, not just figuratively, not just in terms of being declared an unperson and put on a list. And when that happens, it’s not over… that’s when it’s just begun. We’ll see then who’s really up for the fight and who isn’t. Who’s been a real champion for the cause all this time and who’s been serving something else all along. Obviously folks like Paul Joseph Watson and his ilk will be out of the game and the underground railroad types will rise. We aren’t there yet. When we get there, and we will, that’s when we start to assess winning and losing Tommy. That’s the fourth quarter. Don’t give up or be discouraged at halftime.

                    The way I look at it is this… I’m helping to build a foundation which someone much smarter and more passionate than I am will be able to come along and use to help them build a real movement, a revolution. I don’t expect too see the end of it. Did Gore Vidal? Did Howard Zinn? Does Nader? Not that I belong in that company, but like them I understand I’m not the endgame, I’m just a pawn helping to secure the center of the board.

                    This is something these bastards have literally been planning for generations; it was passed down from oligarch father to oligarch son time and time again. You can’t expect them to give up easily, can you? And though I may not live too see them resign the game as they ultimately will have to, I am living to see small victories and a turning of the tide of public opinion. And that’s good enough for me.

                    • Very inspirational. I think you are doing just as important work as those you mentioned. They didn’t delve into deep politics like you have. I look at everyone as playing an important part though. So I agree, there have been some important changes, and I feel that deep politics is the most important aspect for people to grasp. More are open to exploring this still taboo realm and that is encouraging. I just want to live a peaceful life with justice for humanity. I doubt I’ll live to see it either. It is possible, I suppose, as long as the ruling class doesn’t destroy the planet in one way or another. I wasn’t even feeling particularly discouraged. It has become so expected it barely registers too deeply.

                      Anyway, keep up the good fight sir!

    • It wasn’t a “false” arrest. They were sending you a message… “don’t help this family try to get custody of that girl”. Nothing “false” about it. And from the looks of it, you understood that message quite clearly. Not that I blame you.

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