Korean Talks Collapse After North Refuses To Apologize Or Admit To Recent Attacks

(Basically they wanted North Korea to admit to doing something that they didn’t do, ie. sinking the Cheonan. The JIG study has been proven to be wrong on many levels (even to the point of deliberate fraud on many aspects), the Russians and Chinese did their own investigation and concluded that it wasn’t sunk by a North Korean torpedo, and even the UN Security Council failed to level that charge against them. So basically, the South Koreans wanted the North to admit to something they didn’t do to cover their asses in world public opinion. Pretty petty putting that as a condition on these new peace talks; “admit to something you didn’t do, or there will be no peace”. Read “The Sinking of the Cheonan: We Are Being Lied To“)

from Business Insider

The first military talks between the Koreas in three years collapsed this morning when delegates from the North stormed out.

Details of the conflict are unclear, but South Korean officials say the North refused to accept the two conditions for a higher-level meeting, according to Voice Of America:

South Korea has insisted that North Korea must first apologize for the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island on November 23 and admit its responsibility for the sinking of a South Korean warship, the Cheonan, in March. North Korea denies any role in the Cheonan sinking and claims that South Korea provoked the Yeonpyeong incident.

[read the rest, here]

At U.S. Urging, South Korea Runs Live Fire Drills Off Coast of North Korea… Kim Jong-il Does Not Respond

by Scott Creighton

The United States has been doing everything it could to provoke an action out of North Korea that would allow it to force yet another “regime change” in this “New American Century”

Beneath the Surface: the investigation into the sinking of the Cheonan

Kay posted this link as a comment on one of the Cheonan stories. I’m glad she did. Good info. Thanks Kay

Photoshopped Evidence in JIG Final Report on the Sinking of the ROK Cheonan

by Scott Creighton

“… The international, independent, investigation… was objective. The evidence… overwhelming. The conclusion… inescapable.” Hillary Clinton

Striking new evidence shows that the Joint Investigation Report on the Sinking of the ROK Cheonan, the 300+ page final report by the Joint Investigation Group, has been tampered with and in fact a key picture of the evidence was actually photoshopped by the Joint Investigation Group to fit a drawing of the CHT-O2D torpedo.

Yesterday we reported that the official comparison photo had an odd numerical value assigned to a certain part of the motor which made a section labeled as 33.3cm much shorter than a section labeled as 27cm.

Today I figured out why…

Another Glaring Problem with the Joint Investigation Group Final Report on the Sinking of the ROK Cheonan

by Scott Creighton

UPDATE: I figured out WHY this happened… Photoshopped Evidence in JIG Final Report on the Sinking of the ROK Cheonan

“… The international, independent, investigation… was objective. The evidence… overwhelming. The conclusion… inescapable.” Hillary Clinton

H/T to Kay

 

Swedish Members of JIG Appear to Reject Critical Aspects of the Official Report on the Sinking of the Cheonan

by Scott Creighton (H/T to Jay for bringing this to our attention)

Logo, Page 1 full report

The 300+ page “final” Joint Investigation Group (JIG) report on the sinking of the Cheonan has been released and by their own accounting, the reason for the release of the report is to bolster sinking confidence in the last “final” report they released, on May 20th 2010 (which was universally rejected as being almost a complete fabrication). The officials themselves finally had to admit that the image they used in their May 20th presentation was in fact NOT a match for the evidence they supposedly found on May 15th of this year (with a “special net”) and since that evidence (the supposed propulsion system and steering section of a CHT-02D torpedo made in North Korea) again by their own statements, is the key evidence held against North Korea, they spent a great deal of time and effort trying once again to rebrand their entire case around it. And once again, they failed to prove their case with regard to the torpedo evidence comparison to the supposed drawing of the North Korean CHT-02d torpedo, which I will detail further in my next article. 

In a blow to conclusions that are already under attack from leftwing politicians and activists, a team of experts that investigated the sinking of the Navy corvette Cheonan have admitted showing a diagram of the wrong North Korean torpedo when they presented their findings at a press conference on May 20. 

When queried by journalists about discrepancies between the CHT-02D torpedo that attacked the Cheonan and the one depicted in the diagram, investigators said Tuesday that the pictured torpedo was of the model PT-97W and that the error was due to “a mix-up by a staff member while preparing for the presentation.”  Chosun IIbo , June 30, 2010

But in this article I wish to focus on a rather telling aspect of the new full report – the dissenting opinion of the Swedish team  of the JIG members to the findings of the most important parts of the report.

PCC-772 Cheonan: Newly Revealed Report from March 2010 Proves the Tragedy of the Cheonan is Being Used as Just Another Pretext in the Global Free Market Wars

by Scott Creighton

“In many respects, what’s happening is the Obama administration is going back to the hard-line Bush approach to North Korea that Democrats had criticized,”  Michael Green, senior Asian affairs official in the George W. Bush administration

Just days after former President Jimmy Carter went to North Korea and secured the release of a U.S. citizen, Aijalon Mahli Gomes (a tremendous success in light of current events and yet ”journalists in Washington and Seoul have dubbed the trip a failure at worst or a non-event at best“), President Obama signed an executive order imposing tougher sanctions on the country, supposedly as a response to their now deeply questionable involvement in the sinking of the PCC Cheonan on March 26th of this year. After a U.S. consular delegation visited Gomes a few weeks ago, they returned to report that he was deeply depressed.  Three politicians had offered to go and attempt to secure his release at that time; Bill Richardson, John Kerry, and former president Jimmy Carter. All three were offered a chance to go last week and all but Carter refused.

“It was unclear what had determined the timing of the executive order” Reuters, Aug 30, 2010

That’s an understatement.  The timing is beyond curious, and it goes to show that there is much more to this Cheonan story than meets the eye, as is usually the case in global politics. Ask yourself; “Why would the “CHANGE” administration punish the North Koreans with harsher sanctions just days after an extremely positive development like this?” and you may not like the answer. 

The truth may be that they didn’t want to lose the momentum that has been building since the sinking of the PCC Cheonan offered them the pretext they had been looking for.

You see, they had been planning on imposing these sanctions just prior to the sinking of the Cheonan and Hillary Clinton’s now infamously flawed Joint Investigative Group (JIG) found that North Korea was to blame.  All they needed was a pretext and they were determined to make it stick, no matter what it took.

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before.” White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, Wall Street Journal

The executive order that President Obama signed on Monday targets several aspects of North Korean international business, arms dealing, counterfeiting, narcotic production, and banking.  With the emphasis on their banking.  The reported theory behind these new sanctions and asset seizures (that Hillary Clinton announced first back on July 20th 2010) is that it will only target the “elites” of the corrupt North Korean regime and that will cause pressure from within their ranks to force “CHANGE” in leadership.

All of this is based on the pretext of the March 26th 2010 sinking of the Republic of Korea’s naval vessel, the PCC Cheonan. This is the official narrative.

President Barack Obama broadened financial sanctions on North Korea on Monday and froze the U.S. assets of four North Korean citizens and eight firms in part to punish it for the sinking of a South Korean warship.

Obama signed an executive order that lets the United States block the U.S. assets of North Korean entities that trade in conventional arms or luxury products, counterfeit currency or engage in money laundering, drug smuggling or other “illicit” activity that supports the government or its leaders. Reuters, Aug 30, 2010

But again, as is usually the case, the official narrative is incomplete. The real story is a little harder to find, but it goes something like this…

Cheonan sinking haunts South Korea; Naval experts suggest government cover-up of “simple” maritime accident

So that is all of the evidence, huh?  I think there may be a little more they aren’t mentioning in this segment, let’s see…

(please read Aug 31st article; PCC-772 Cheonan: Newly Revealed Report from March 2010 Proves the Tragedy of the Cheonan is Being Used as Just Another Pretext in the Global Free Market Wars)

[edit: more links to scholarly investigations added]

Were the “Critical Evidence” presented in the South Korean Official Cheonan Report fabricated?, Seunghun Lee/J.J. Suh (PDF)

The PSPD’s Stance on the Final Investigation Report on the Cheonan - seoprise

Eight Questions Needing Answers on the Investigation of the Sunken Naval Corvette Cheonan – people power 21 blog

Comments on the Section “Adsorbed Material Analysis” of the CheonAn Report made by the South Korean Civil and Military Joint Investigation Group (CIV-MIL JIG), Seunghun Lee (PDF)

Investigators admit using wrong blueprint to show N. Korean torpedo that attacked Cheonan – Yonhap News

Cheonan Investigators Presented Wrong Torpedo Diagram – Chosun Ilbo (english)

Six Problems on the Investigation Process of the Cheonan Sinking – people power 21 blog

Letter to Hillary Clinton, U.S. Secretary of state. There was no Explosion. There was No Torpedo. S.C. Shin, May 26th - seoprise

First Grounding;  B.I. Lee, Section Chief of Coast Guard, “Got a first call in ‘Grounding’ and orderd 501-Patrol Ship to move immediately over to the site.” 2010.3.29 – MBC News -

Rush to Judgment: Inconsistencies in South Korea’s Cheonan Report, Seunghun Lee/J.J. Suh -

Shock wave and bubble: the untruth about the Cheonan

PCC-772 Cheonan: South Korean Government Admits the Deception (and then Lies About It)

PCC-772 Cheonan: The Wheels are Coming Off Another Poorly Fabricated U.S. Lie

PCC-772 Cheonan – Russian experts review results in South Korean ship sinking

PCC-772 Cheonan: China and Russia Seem to Reject the Conclusions of the U.S.-Led “Objective” Investigation

Russia not to raise SKorean ship sinking incident in UN Security Council-FM

Did an American Mine Sink South Korean Ship?

PCC-772 Cheonan: Photographic Evidence that “No. 1″ Written on Top of Rust

PCC-772 Cheonan: An Unacceptable Provocation by the United States of America and the International Community has a Duty To Respond

The Sinking of the Cheonan: We Are Being Lied To

*** conclusions drawn in recent investigation and review of the evidence by Gregory Elich published by CounterPunch on July 28th, 2010… The Sinking of the Cheonan and its Political Uses

“Did a North Korean submarine fire a torpedo at the Cheonan? I do not know, but it seems improbable. If it was a torpedo that sank the Cheonan, then it certainly was not the one that the JIG put on display…

While reviewing the evidence, it began to appear to me that the most likely cause of the Cheonan’s sad fate was having had the misfortune to inadvertently sail into the path of a sea mine, and this feeling has only been strengthened by the reports of the Russian investigation team’s findings.” Gregory Elich

Shock wave and bubble: the untruth about the Cheonan

by Hilary Keenan, 21st Centrury Socialism

Only a small coterie in the USA and South Korea know for sure what really happened to the South Korean warship. But, unreported in the Western media, the ‘proof’ that the Cheonan was sunk by North Korea has been thoroughly discredited.

As is often the case following a negotiated outcome, both sides claimed victory. After the final text on the sinking of the South Korean corvette was agreed by the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council on 9th July, the Whitehouse issued a statement which asserted:

Today’s UN Security Council Presidential statement condemns the attack by North Korea on the Cheonan and warns North Korea that the international community will not tolerate such aggressive behavior against the Republic of Korea.  The unanimous statement, reflecting the shared view of the 5 members of the Six-Party Talks, constitutes an endorsement of the findings of the Joint Investigative Group that established North Korea’s responsibility for the attack.

But the UNSC Presidential statement did no such thing. It did not condemn ‘the attack by North Korea’ or ‘warn North Korea’, because it did not name the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea) as the culprit. And it did not endorse the findings of the Joint Investigative Group which was appointed by the government of the Republic of Korea (South Korea). The wording of the statement on this matter was much more cautious:

In view of the findings of the Joint Civilian-Military Investigation Group led by the ROK with the participation of five nations, which concluded that the DPRK was responsible for sinking the Cheonan, the Security Council expresses its deep concern.

Following which, the UNSC statement added:

The Security Council takes note of the responses from other relevant parties, including from the DPRK, which has stated that it had nothing to do with the incident…

The Security Council welcomes the restraint shown by the ROK and stresses the importance of maintaining peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and in northeast Asia as a whole.

PCC-772 Cheonan: South Korean Government Admits the Deception (and then Lies About It)

edit: (please read Aug 31st article; PCC-772 Cheonan: Newly Revealed Report from March 2010 Proves the Tragedy of the Cheonan is Being Used as Just Another Pretext in the Global Free Market Wars)

by Scott Creighton (H/T to Greg and Kay , Jay)  … UPDATE at the end of the article (7/01/2010)

Like in the case of 9/11, careful fact checking and examination of the evidence by netizens has shown the South Korean government’s case for the involvement of North Korea in the sinking of the Cheonan to be unsustainable. Netizens are more and more able to act as watchdogs. But they need teeth.   Ohmy News International, Korea… June 8, 2010

(Rules of Dissent #1 – Don’t forget to take a moment to acknowledge to rare victories)

If you wish to know why Sen. Lieberman rushed his “kill switch” bill into the senate and the House, which effectively gives the neoliberal president the ability to shut down “parts” of the internet during a global crisis (like say after another Gulf of Tonkin incident this time getting us into war with Iran?) the reason is simple… their propaganda can’t hold up to scrutiny anymore and the last remaining journalists, bloggers,  (as opposed to the MSM Pep Squad stenographers of the establishment) cost the globalists a Global Free Market Wars ”regime change” in North Korea (or at least they delayed it)

In a blow to conclusions that are already under attack from leftwing politicians and activists, a team of experts that investigated the sinking of the Navy corvette Cheonan have admitted showing a diagram of the wrong North Korean torpedo when they presented their findings at a press conference on May 20. 

When queried by journalists about discrepancies between the CHT-02D torpedo that attacked the Cheonan and the one depicted in the diagram, investigators said Tuesday that the pictured torpedo was of the model PT-97W and that the error was due to “a mix-up by a staff member while preparing for the presentation.”  Chosun IIbo , June 30, 2010

Just  days after the South Koreans and the “international team of objective investigators” announced their porous findings about what caused the sinking of the PCC-772 Cheonan in the Yellow Sea, a wave of dissent began which eventually capsized the June 2nd elections in South Korea for the ruling party and cost at least one leading South Korean military official his career.  Not to mention the fact that the strong opposition which rose up in South Korea eventually forced their leaders to take a more conciliatory tone with North Korea and even to cancel several planned joint naval operations with the U.S.

For the most part, the South Korean press is just about as corrupt as their U.S. counter-parts; serving only to amplify the “official story” coming from the halls of established power.  So who is this article talking about?  The blogs and the internet journalists who were being mercilessly railed on by the establishment press and called “conspiracy theorists” for daring to question the obviously flawed “evidence” presented to them by their corrupt leaders (and ours)  (please read “PCC-772 Cheonan: An Unacceptable Provocation by the United States of America and the International Community has a Duty To Respond“)

Neoliberal and “Israel Firster”, Joe Lieberman, Wants the US to be More Like China When it Comes to Silencing Dissent

by Scott Creighton

Susan Collins and Joe Lieberman have teamed up again to produce yet another step in the direction of fascism in America.  As a U.S. and Israeli armada head toward Iran, Joe Lieberman submits a bill that would give the president the ability to shut down “PARTS” of the internet at a time of war, for “national security” reasons of course. 

After all, China does it, so why not America?

“The president should be able to say… we’ve got to be able to disconnect the AMERICAN INTERNET from all internet traffic coming in from another foreign country, OR PUT A PATCH ON THIS PART OF IT… and I say TO MY FRIENDS ON THE INTERNET.. relax…” Joe Lieberman  (what does “my friends” mean? Is he talking to me? doubtful. Or does “friends” mean something different?)

The aim is pretty simple, once a war breaks out based on yet another false flag event, this administration would be able to turn off websites that delve into anything that could call the official narrative into question. Dick Cheney, eat your heart out. Imagine if Bush had tried to get away with something like this back in his day. The “progressives” would have had an embolism… yet now?  (crickets and tumble weeds)

PCC-772 Cheonan: The Wheels are Coming Off Another Poorly Fabricated U.S. Lie

by Scott Creighton

Just a few quick updates from sources you won’t easily find on CNN or Fox “News”.

What if you were the president of a country whose war-ship had been sent to the bottom of the Yellow Sea with 46 of your nations finest along with her? What if you knew which other country sank it? What would your letter to the U.N. Security Council ask for?

S.Korean letter to UN Security Council does not seek sanctions against North

South Korea’s ambassador to the UN, Park In-kook, on Friday handed a letter to Claude Heller, permanent representative of the UN Security Council presidency Mexico, asking for considerations on the South Korean ship allegedly sunk by North Korea.  RIANOVOSTI

South Korea did not specify what action it was seeking from the Security Council for the sinking of its war-ship, the Cheonan, which it says was torpedoed by the North on March 26.  New York Times

South Korea did not specify what actions it was requesting from the U.N. Security Council in their June 4th letter they submitted on Friday.  Instead, South Korea asked the Security Council to “consider” the matter while mentioning two separate times that the conclusion they came to about the guilt of North Korea was based on the “scientific and objective investigation” headed by the United States (deliberately including Hillary Clinton’s description of the investigation in their official letter to the Security Council).

My government requests that the Security Council duly consider this matter and respond in a manner appropriate to the gravity of North Korea’s military provocation in order to deter recurrence of any further provocation by North Korea.  Park In-kook

They also included a copy of the rather sparse 5 page “investigation” headed by the Clinton State Department and a couple other U.S. compliant members of the coalition of the willing.

Now if you find this a little anti-climatic after Hillary’s rousing “let’s go get ‘em” speech, you are not alone. Even the New York Times had to make mention of the rather tame nature of the South Korean leadership on this issue.

(Robert Gates) said that the United States would support action in the Security Council and that it was “assessing additional options to hold North Korea accountable.”

But Chung Min Lee, a foreign policy adviser to President Lee, said that the president “has basically told the North Koreans, ‘If you do this type of provocative act one more time, we will respond with some kind of military response.’ ”  New York Times

Does that sound like the words of a president who knows North Korea deliberately sank his battleship?

PCC-772 Cheonan: “To do nothing would set the wrong precedent,” (you got that right)

by Scott Creighton

George W. Bush’s choice for Donald Rumsfeld’s replacement, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, is shaking the tree again under President Obama’s farcical regime. He is standing tall before the pages of history demanding that the Asian world help take action against the rogue state who committed an act of war on the open seas.  You think he’s talking about Israel’s piracy on international waters?  Think again.

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates told a security conference in Singapore it was the “collective responsibility” of Asian states to address North Korean “provocations,” increasing pressure on a reluctant China to rebuke its ally. “To do nothing would set the wrong precedent,” Gates said at a meeting with his South Korean and Japanese counterparts.  Reuters

As frightening as that kind of baseless rhetoric is coming from a neocon secretary of defense from trigger-happy America, the people of South Korea have even more to fear from comments like this one delivered by their own president…

South Korea President Lee Myung-bak, who announced the move in Singapore at a security conference, said North Korea “must admit its wrongdoing. It must pledge to never again engage in such reprehensible action.”

“If we think that after a while North Korea’s action will be condoned and that stability on the Korean Peninsula will somehow be maintained then we would be foolling ourselves because North Korea would once again resort back to attacking others.”  CNN

It would appear from that statement that the last thing the globalist’s puppet wants to see is “stability” return to the Korean Peninsula. Now that is a deeply disturbing statement coming from the President of South Korea. It’s no wonder his party lost so badly in the June 2 elections. When stability becomes the enemy of the ruling party, you got serious problems.  Especially when you consider they just helped forge a false-flag operation with the likes of Hillary Clinton.

PCC-772 Cheonan – Russian experts review results in South Korean ship sinking

A Russian investigation team began working with Korean experts going over their evidence that the Cheonan was sunk by a North Korean torpedo. China has already rejected the findings. Russia claims they will have a report ready in one week’s time by June 7th.

… The Russian team — including torpedo and submarine experts — arrived Monday and received a briefing on the Cheonan probe, conducted by a multinational group of investigators. They were scheduled to examine the wreckage and visit the site of the alleged attack before finishing their report June 7, said a Defence Ministry official on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.

… The South Koreans shared the investigation’s findings with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao last weekend before a summit, but Beijing has yet to blame North Korea or support any potential U.N. action against its long-time ally. The Globe and Mail

PCC-772 Cheonan: China and Russia Seem to Reject the Conclusions of the U.S.-Led “Objective” Investigation

by Scott Creighton

Last week the reports quoting ”anonymous senior officials” couldn’t have been more wrong; China did not end up endorsing the Hilary Clinton pro-war talking point that North Korea was responsible for sinking the Cheonan. Perhaps we should stop quoting the lies of our anonymous “senior officials” before we let them start another war for profit.

Last week, senior U.S. officials said after holding talks in Beijing that China is likely to gradually endorse the view that North Korea should be held accountable. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the discussions.  Fox News May 30 2010

China made it very clear that they would not support any nation who attacked and sank the PCC-772 Cheonan on March 26, killing 46 ROKS sailors.  Today it is being reported that after the weekend trilateral talks with Japan and South Korea, China is all-but rejecting the findings of the American led investigation that faulted North Korea for the attack based on what has been readily proved to be rather flimsy and probably fraudulent evidence.

Russia has also made it clear that they do not support those findings.  Neither country, China or Russia, seems to be willing to support submitting a resolution for sanctions to the United Nations blaming North Korea for the sinking of the Cheonan and at least in one case they point out that doing that before the Security Council would “bring more questions (about the incident) than answers”.  That says a lot.

One article goes so far as to suggest even the South Korean president, President Lee, may be taking a different stance on this issue, at least while he is with the Chinese and the Japanese delegations.

China’s premier said Sunday that tensions over the sinking of a South Korean warship urgently need to be diffused, but did not join other key nations in blaming longtime ally North Korea and gave no indication he would support U.N. sanctions.  MSNBC May 30th 2010

President Lee said South Korea will take appropriate steps to address the naval tragedy in close partnership with China and Japan. However, he stopped short of blaming North Korea. The Korea Times May 30 2010

China’s premier said Sunday that avoiding conflict between the Koreas over the sinking of a warship is most urgent, but did not express support for a bid by South Korea and Japan to condemn North Korea at the United Nations for allegedly carrying out the attack.  Fox News May 30 2010

“Even if this issue is introduced for a UN Security Council decision, it [the council] will be reserved,” another expert on Korea, Georgy Toloraya, said, adding that the issue would not involve international sanctions. “Introducing this issue to the UN Security Council for discussion will bring about more questions than answers,” Leshakov added. RIANOVOSTI May 27 2010

Though the situation is certainly far from being defused, with the looming threat of U.N. sanctions apparently now “off the table” due to the two Security Council veto holding nations rejecting Hilary Clinton’s “overwhelming” evidence, perhaps the U.S. instigated tensions on the Korean peninsula can start to subside. Hopefully we will see North and South Korea begin a speedy stand-down from their war posture before a silly incident provides War-Monger Clinton another opportunity to beat her familiar drums.

This is very good news for people all over the world, not just in Korea.  Though we are seeing some smattering of news reports on this issue here in the U.S., what we aren’t seeing, what we should be seeing, is an internal investigation into how the Secretary of State of the United States of America came away from her own observations of the “investigation” with such a convoluted conclusion that is being widely rejected world-wide.

What we should see is a real investigation into the sinking of the PCC-772 Cheonan in order to determine who was really responsible for the taking of 46 South Korean lives.

What we should see happen in this country is an investigation into Hilary Clinton’s involvement in the South Korean investigation and all of her subsequent war-mongering that has taken place afterwards.

How can any U.S. citizen feel comfortable knowing that such a loose cannon is running around the world, representing our nation, looking to provoke open war-fare with such little regard for human life and the truth in general in our name?

That is what should happen in the United States, but I am afraid it won’t. The Clintons own the Democratic Party and they rule it with a corrupt iron fist of biblical proportions.

As an American with a conscience, all I can say to the people of South and North Korea is the same thing I say to the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Honduras, Columbia, Mexico, Palestine, and Haiti… I’m sorry.