by Scott Creighton
“Numerous decisions of this Court have established the standards governing the admissibility of confessions into evidence. If an individual’s “will was overborne” 2 or if his confession was not “the product of a rational intellect and a free will,” 3 his confession is inadmissible because coerced. These standards are applicable whether a confession is the product of physical intimidation or psychological pressure and, of course, are equally applicable to a drug-induced statement. It is difficult to imagine a situation in which a confession would be less the product of a free intellect, less voluntary, than when brought 372 U.S. 293, 308] about by a drug having the effect of a “truth serum.” MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WARREN TOWNSEND v. SAIN, 372 U.S. 293 (1963)
Fox News is reporting that it’s A-OK to use a “truth serum” on James Holmes to get him to confess to his crimes in Aurora Co.
The defendant in the deadly Colorado theater shooting could be given “truth serum” under a court order issued Monday to help determine whether he is insane if he pleads not guilty by reason of insanity.
Suspect James Holmes could be required to submit to a “narcoanalytic interview” as part of an evaluation to determine if he was legally insane at the time of the July 20 shootings, Arpahoe County District Judge William Sylvester said.
A narcoanalylitic interview is a decades-old process in which patients are given drugs to lower their inhibition. Academic studies have shown that the technique has involved the use of sodium amytal and pentothal, sometimes called truth serum.” Fox News
The Fox story ends with some “legal expert” saying this is “clearly” legal under Colorado law.
Yeah, drugging up some patsy with a Date Rape Drug to the point they would confess to just about anything is apparently legal in Colorado, just not in the rest of the civilized world. How nice.
Why don’t they just waterboard him or hook car batteries to his nipples? They could get that bitch who made “Zero Truth CIAty” to come over and she and that hack actor from “24” can beat him with extension cords till he confesses or until their agents decide they need a bigger trailer and green room.
I mean WTF? If we are enshrining old CIA/death squad coercion tactics here in the old “Homeland”, why not go all out? Call up some old SAVOK and Ton Ton Macoute members and get them to interrogate Holmes. Oh wait… we got the original, the CIA. Nevermind
Want to know how strong that shit is? “It is also usually the first of three drugs administered during most lethal injections in the United States.“
The way it works is the barbiturate affects the higher brain functioning which makes the subject much more susceptible to suggestions from the interviewer like a “Ruffie” or the Date Rape drug.
“The common term “truth serum” refers to any number of sedative/hypnotic drugs which are used to induce honesty in a subject. In fact, truthfulness is not guaranteed by the use of such drugs; while a person under the influence of a truth serum may become talkative, or may experience reduced inhibitions or even hallucinogenic fantasies, they are still quite capable of lying. For this reason, and the obvious human and civil rights issues (which are similar to those regarding torture), any statements obtained in this manner are inadmissible in court” TV Troup
Well, that doesn’t help the Fox “News’ version of this. Neither will this quote from Alan Bellows;
Such drugs have been utilized by some of the three-letter government agencies in the not-so-distant past (CIA, FBI, DOD, KGB, etc.), particularly during the rampant paranoia of the Cold War. And in the aftermath of 9/11, there was some discussion on the idea of bringing them back into use for interrogation. But are these truth serums effective? Do they produce any useful results?
The short answer is, no. The long answer is “Noooooooooooo!” while running in slow-motion.
Many barbiturates fall under the “truth serum” category, including scopolamine, sodium amytal, and Sodium Pentothal. Scopolamine was tested in the 1950s as a truth serum in project MKULTRA, and is now infamous as a date-rape drug due to its tendency to cause retrograde amnesia (the inability to recall events prior to its administration). Sodium Pentothal is a drug which is commonly used in operating rooms as general anesthesia, though in recent years it has been largely replaced by better alternatives. Alan Bellows 2005
So let’s get this straight: after the Supreme Court ruled in TOWNSEND v. SAIN, 372 U.S. 293 (1963) that using “truth serum” to coerce “confessions” from suspects was illegal, the CIA and FBI wanted to bring back it’s use after the false flag event of 9/11.
Now here we are, looking at a specific case involving what appears to be an Operation Gladio type mass casualty event. and they are trying to bring back the CIA’s old “confession by Date Rape Drug” trick?
I would have to ask Fox News and their “legal expert” if Colorado law supersedes that of the United States Supreme court.
“It is difficult to imagine a situation in which a confession would be less the product of a free intellect, less voluntary, than when brought 372 U.S. 293, 308] about by a drug having the effect of a “truth serum.” ” MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WARREN TOWNSEND v. SAIN, 372 U.S. 293 (1963)
Of course, their argument would be that it’s not to gain a statement of confession from Holmes during his drug induced interrogation, but rather to see if he is capable of standing trial. I disagree in that the information gleaned from this farce of a show trial move will end up in court record and will become the “confession” that is going to be plastered all across the mainstream media substituting for an actual trial. In effect, this “truth serum” CIA trick will be used to convict Holmes is the court of public opinion before his Vichy lawyers plead him out to life in prison rather than taking it to trial to evaluate the evidence against him.
In that context, I say this is just as damaging as if it were being done in the interrogation room of a sheriff’s office.
It’s That time of the month again. My little visitor is demanding satisfaction. Gotta pay Verizon or they will bust into my “cloud”… and God knows what the CIA and the FBI have put in there. Hell, I don’t even have a “cloud”.
Don’t even really know what a”cloud” is… but I know it’s kept at that new big NSA building in Utah.
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