by Scott Creighton
It’s no secret that I am done with the fake dissident George Galloway but today he sank to an all-time new low in his ham-handed and rather revealing defense of NSA/State Department psyop Julian Assange when he claimed that penetrating a sleeping woman without protection and then continuing in spite of her objections isn’t really rape.
I find it remarkable that such progressive and human rights focused journalists like Glenn Greenwald and others constantly gloss over the charges against Julian Assange as if they never happened. That’s bad enough. Kinda like the supporters of the Bush regime still trying to argue Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.
But George Galloway takes it one step further… he demeans the complaints against Assange on the grounds that they did happen and it doesn’t really matter that they did. That it’s not really legitimate rape.
One guy is damn near done in politics because he uses the term “legitimate rape” in public and another goes so far as to actually define it. Let’s see where the “progressive” Assange worshiping left takes this newest development. (my prediction? no where)
The allegations are that Julian, while he was running around enjoying his life as an international playboy “activist”, had consensual sex with a young woman who insisted on using a condom after a night of partying.
She falls asleep afterward and Julian decides to penetrate her again, while she was asleep, without a condom. She wakes up and he continues in spite of her objections.
That’s… fucking… rape… and I don’t care how much you just love the psyop Assange and think the Guardian’s and the Times’ “leaks” helped expose Iran as the biggest threat to the Middle East (look it up), the fact is, she was asleep, she trusted him, shared intercourse with him, the most personal and intimate thing you can share with someone, and he date raped her without protection while she slept.
To me he’s slime. But not apparently to George Galloway (who by the way is friends with the oligarchs in England who put him up in their mansion for a year)
“Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you’re already in the sex game with them,” Galloway said, gesticulating emphatically. “It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said: ‘Do you mind if I do it again?’ It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning.” George Galloway
What do you say to that? I wonder how far the crackpot Galloway takes this “sex game” theory of his? I wonder, if you are already “in the sex game” if that means you can snatch up your sleeping partner and chain her to a beam in your basement for a month and repeatedly forcibly sodomize her anally and hook up car batteries to her nipples? Is that rape or simply “bad sexual etiquette” you stupid son of a bitch?
I wonder how Galloway’s take on this might change if Assange did this “bad sexual etiquette” to a daughter of his.
With all this talk of “legitimate rape” and the squealing for accountability coming from the left (and rightly so, mind you), I wonder how this will play out. I wonder if the left is willing to take a step back and look at the consequences of their actions defending the wholly indefensible actions of Julian Assange simply because he’s a blond playboy wrongly credited with being some kind of anti-imperialist crusader. They have to understand it is their dual standards in such cases that makes people like Galloway think he can get away with making such offensive and damaging statements.
Any women out there want to talk about waking up and finding some guy penetrating you while you were asleep without protection? Does it matter? Is it simply bad sexual etiquette or is it rape?
Now here’s the question: is it still rape when Julian does it, or does it not matter because he’s so damn cool … and it happened to someone else?
Are you going to condemn one politician because he used the term “legitimate rape” or the weasel pundit from England who actually tries to define it?
You decide the world you want to live in. I’ll just record the descent as it happens.
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just a minor detail – Assange is not charged with anything, he’s wanted for questioning after the original prosecutor through it all out as no case to answer. just saying!
Tramps get jealous after tramping and file phony charges in insanely feminist totalitarian loonystate.
yeah. I’m sure you have many deeply intimate and fulfilling relationships with people of the fairer sex. Keep on keeping on there buddy. Watched any good Clint Eastwood movies recently?
Shown during prime time on Swedish television. The girl is singing the Swedish national anthem as she does what she does. Assasination of the politically incorrect is celebrated in the “respectable” media.
what is that even supposed to mean? who cares what Swedish tv shows? are you so filled with hate toward women and other races that something like this bothers you? who the fuck cares about some stupid video from a half ass “musician”? it has nothing to do with this thread. stay on topic please
Scott! You had me thinking you thought through the stuff you wrote and I admit I will continue to find you plausible (minus your overarching need to explain it all) in the Aurora Massacre but here you are just looking irresponsible!
What Galloway states is nothing remotely close to your emotional outburst in response. You’ve entirely missed the facts on this one including the fact that there have not been any charges and that the senior Stockholm prosecutor dismissed the allegation of the complainants as not worthy of further investigation.
Do you understand?
He is not even charged with anything because the stories lack credibility. Even now, no charges. No one knows what actions are true to even ascertain whether they are defensible.
In the rape scenario you are trying to construct, what if the complainant take on this event was this?
“The second complainant, too, failed to complain for several days until she found out about the first complainant: she claimed that after several acts of consensual sexual intercourse, she fell half asleep and thinks that he ejaculated without using a condom – a possibility about which she says they joked afterwards.”
hmmm, let’s see… some prosecutor in a NATO country refuses to file charges after the woman filed her complaint with the police department.
And a judge tossed it out?
Wow, I guess I’m wrong. No judge or prosecutor has ever done anything to support the neoliberal agenda of the imperialist NATO campaign… (well, except for that little ICC prosecution of Ghadafi for war crimes charges, but let’s pretend that didn’t happen)
Aside from the OBVIOUS fact that the judge and the prosecutor could have been influenced politically, let’s consider this…
What I am pissed about is less about what he did or didn’t do. There are courts and things called trials which should determine that…
What I am pissed about is this saintly visage that Assange is now endowed with which makes ANY indiscretion immediately invalid when it comes to him and all of your subsequent comments reflect what I just said.
Point being, when the republican candidate simply mentioned “legitimate rape” as a concept, he was ravaged by the left, and some of the right, and rightly so….
but let the left actually define the CONCEPT of “legitimate rape” and actually set parameters, well, that’s ok as long as the person in question committing the “legitimate rape” is Saint Assange (who by the way is a definate product of the CIA and the NSA and there is no arguing that)
My anger as you can clearly see is less directed at Assange or even Galloway (who should go back to wearing leotards and crawling around on a TV set purring like a kitten) and more toward the hypocritical left who give them BOTH a pass for going even further than the guy they wanted to lynch for saying “legitimate rape”
My anger stems from these people destroying the credibility of the left for their own personal reasons. I’m not going to debate you on the validity of Assange and Wikileaks. Their own actions have spoken volumes already and I have written extensively about the Assange psyop already. the archives have plenty of links you are welcome to read up on.
My anger stems from the hypocrisy not the evidence of the case one way or the other. Had Galloway’s statement been made by someone from the right defending someone like Scooter Libby, you would have seen a hurricane of anger and self-righteous indignation coming from the left, which to this point, I see none of as it is.
To me, that is pathetic and cowardly, and it makes a mockery of what we are supposed to stand for.
ok? Do go all pro-Assange on me… we can agree to disagree about that aspect of this.. it is less about Assange and more about what Galloway actually said and the reverberating silence of the “moral left” that pissed me off.
now, if you have links to outrage from the left toward his horrendous comment, then please, I would be glad to see it and even more glad in this case to admit I jumped to a conclusion… but at this point, I have yet to hear anything remotely close to what I heard about the republican’s comment, and I doubt I will.
thanks
In the case of Glenn Greenwald, focusing on the possibility of extradition to the US does in lieu of the potential rape charges does not make one a defender of rape or Julian Assange’s innocence.
the fact is, he is constantly defending Assange while the guy is literally on the run from charges which amount to at least date rape and possibly rape (which is what I would call it since she was asleep)
let’s forget the fact that he makes Assange out to be some kind of whistle blower (Manning is the whistle blower in this case) or some kind of tormented journalist (Assange writes nothing of note and does no research) being hounded by the empire, he’s neither.
Out there is a woman, right or wrong, who claims he raped her. and he runs away. and Glen spends hours upon hours defending him as if he is some kind of hero.
Koby Bryant get that kind of defense from Greenwald? I think not. If Assange is innocent, he should go back and face the charges… if he is guilty, he should go back and face the charges.
Do you think it is a coincidence that he handed over all those state department files to globalist rags like the Guardian and the New York Times then he hid from the rape charges in a millionaire globalist’s mansion? Come on man…
consider his behavior during his TV show.. wasn’t he constantly asking leader why they didn’t come out and support the “Free Syrian Army”?
Dissident? Whistle blower? not hardly… accused rapist? you bet.
To be honest, willyloman, you did immediately doubt the maid’s rape story, when Strauss-Kahn was taken off that plane in New York, so it seems legitimate to me that people are defending Assange by saying he was set-up.
First of all, when the other people doubted what I said about the maid rape story, turns out, once again, I was right, they were wrong. So again, I’ll say this… it doesn’t matter if it’s true or if it’s not… the woman has a right to her day in court. She filed it, it’s the law. He has a right to a solid and virulent defense, but he is obligated to show up and stop running. period.
Now as far as what Galloway said, again, it doesn’t matter what happened between Assange and that woman. What he said was offensive to EVERY human being… not just women. or at least it should be.
what a bizarre post scott….you are the real scott? Anyone clued in can see that Assange is under attack by the US empire and that he has received Asylum in ecuador,a country also under attack by the empire.Youre allowing your unreasoning hatred of Assnge and wilileaks to force you into the imperial camp! wierd! but thats what logic does to people
Congrats on Galloway on not being fooled
a swedish magistrate heard Assange and dismissed the charges…later after the document dump,a new magistrate reopened the case and issued the arrest warrant….note the swedes refuse to go to london to question him again….
FYI:Swedish police goto Serbia to interview murder suspect, but refuse to interview Assange in London for 2 years http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unt.se%2Fuppsala%2Fmordmisstankt-forhord-i-serbien-1701566.aspx%23.T-tO934j_Nw.twitter
so that tells me the swedes are pawns for the US who want him in Guantanamo
‘However, Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said his country would not be lectured by Ecuador.[ 'we take our orders from the US thank you very much'!]
Mr Bildt said Sweden was entirely within its rights to question Mr Assange about a serious alleged crime. ['but we dont want to do it in the ecuador embassy as we have some cumbersome tools of the trade here in sweden!']
He denied that Mr Assange would ultimately be extradited to the US to face the death penalty. [trust us...would we lie,,.weve never ever extradited anyone on orders from the US regime...ever! oh you ask what about Mohammad al-Zari and Ahmed Agiza...!!!!]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19292323
Excuse me… I can see you are busy with all your ‘fussing’.. but just what bit of information did Assange release that gave American courts the right to arrest anyone ….. (not including Assange).. what top notch secrets? what names with condemning info attached?
OH… is this the same case where Assange keeps promising to release stuff, but he doesn’t?
Yesterday, Mike Huckabee, former Republican governor of Arkansas, dug the ditch deeper, saying “extraordinary things” have been done by those born from “forcible” rapes. He once ran for president, and was taken seriously.
There are no slutwalkers where I live.
Isn’t it possible that the whole ‘rape’ thing is just part of the psyops? It would not be the first time someone has been paid to say something and get an assurance that it will never go to court.
Assange and Galloway are two of kind, paid 9/11 truth deniers, gatekeepers and controlled opposition. Stunt men for their handlers.
of course it is but that is beside the point. The point is what the people believe is true, not what is true and I have made that point. A trial needs to determine that, the accusation is made by the woman and she deserves her day in court.
Here’s one thing… if you were going to stage a set-up “crime” for him to be unjustly persecuted for in order to garner sympathy from the left… would you make it a sleazy date rape?
And let’s face it.. the MSM rarely acknowledges why he is being sought in that country. They talk about “allegations” but they rarely mention what it is.
I think I get what you’re saying, Scott. The left, in their desperation to lionise Assange, readily wave away accusations of rape for which they would have torn apart any politician they didn’t like (right-wingers, Dominique Strauss-Kahn(!) etc)
What I DON’T get is the role of the Ecuadorean government. They must have at least some inkling that this is a load of bs, why are they wasting their time like this?
Thanks!
thank you.
As a woman I won’t hesitate for a second to say that that’s rape. First of all, if a person insists that protection should be used that has to be respected. There’s just no way around it. I don’t care if it’s some one night stand or if it’s your boyfriend or husband. That’s a serious thing.
Also, just because a woman slept with you once doesn’t just automatically mean she wants to sleep with you again. If she does you will find out. If she’s asleep, she’s asleep and that’s that. You don’t get an unlimited entry pass if you were just there once.
Rape allegations are serious and should be treated as such. If he’s innocent he’s innocent, if he’s guilty he’s guilty. Just because some may be more inclined to support him doesn’t give them the right to downplay such a serious crime.
well said, sunshinez ! as a woman, I agree
goddamned right
Frankly, it’s quite disturbing to hear what some of these men out there have to say on the topic. It’s sickening, actually.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193641/Is-photo-clear-Assange-Grinning-meal-meatballs-schnapps-WikiLeaks-boss-woman-says-sexually-assaulted-48-hours-earlier.html