by Scott Creighton
UPDATE: Aurora Massacre: Disclosure of the facts would cause “untold harm to the case” says Judge
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At a time when the defense is trying to claim their client is bat-shit crazy, the Denver Post comes out with a story about what James Holmes was like just a short year ago. When he applied to the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign neuroscience program they wanted him so badly they waved tuition and fees and offered him a yearly paycheck of $22,660 just to attend their school. Out of 150 qualified applicants yearly they take between 5-15. James Holmes was one of those.
How does James get from point A to point B? How do we get from one of the brightest students in the nation, a guy who’s love of knowledge made him want to study the mind, a student so desired they would offer to pay him cash to attend, to a guy practically drooling on himself in a courtroom seemingly with no idea where he was?
This is a link to his application file at UI. You should read it.(H/T sunshinez)
Back in March of 2011, the University of Illinois had him come up and they interviewed him…
“Those who met you … during your interview visit felt that your personal and professional qualities are truly outstanding and that you will be an excellent match for our program,” said the Illinois acceptance letter from professor J. Lee Beverly.” Denver Post
The Denver Post also references an article put out by the News Gazette which detailed his application history a bit more. Holmes was exceedingly bright, the kind of kid you want your child to be, the kind you wish you were.
“Holmes’ GRE quantitative score was 800 (94th percentile), his verbal score was 710 (98th percentile), and he had an analytical writing score of 4 (45th percentile), according to his UI application. His GPA was 3.94 out of 4.00, according to the application.” News Gazette
Scores don’t tell the whole story, that is true. For a better understanding of the way this young man’s mind works (worked?), you would need to listen to Holmes himself…
“I have always been fascinated by the complexities of long lost thought seemingly arising out of nowhere into a stream of awareness,” he wrote. “… These are the very cognitive processes which enable us to acquire information and retain it. They are at the core of what distinguishes us as people. Due to the seemingly infinite vastness of indefinite knowledge, we must be selective in our pursuits of knowledge. This is why I have chosen to study the primary source of all things, our own minds.” Denver Post
“Rational people act based on incentives for self-fulfillment, including fulfilling needs of self-development and needs of feeling useful and helpful to others. I look forward to fulfilling my quest to advance my knowledge and I plan to use my critical thinking skills by studying the subject I am passionate about, neuroscience.” News Gazette
Does that sound like the guy we saw sitting at the defense table blankly looking around or emoting various quizzical expressions? Does that sound like a “spitter” who needed to be gagged?
They have sealed Holmes’ records at the University of Colorado where he ended up going in June of 2011 but before they did so, the university released a simple statement
“The University of Colorado Denver Anschutz Medical Campus can confirm that Mr. James Holmes was in the process of withdrawing from the University of Colorado Denver’s graduate program in neurosciences…” MSNBC July 20th
This is very odd indeed if you consider he gave a presentation on MicroRNA biomarkers just before he supposedly started the process of withdrawing from the school.
The Washington Post reported that a teacher at the school claimed Jimmy (as he had been called by classmates) did poorly on an oral exam, but the evidence of that, like all the other evidence in this case, is a big secret.
The only confirmation that we have of Holmes’ ending his academic career is the say-so of the university spokesperson who obviously has a stake in the matter.
Seems to me that this young man had every intention of pursuing his academic career and knowledge itself, as far as he possibly could. By all accounts of those tasked with assessing his potential, this guy was professional and driven. Looking at his writing (which is nothing like the writing attributed to him on the Adult Friend Finders account) he was thoughtful and curious and possessed a desire to see how far these traits could take him.
Look very closely because one of these things is not like the other. The extra gas mask, the reports of other shooters, the conflicting descriptions of the shooter, his condition when the cops found him… the timing of this attack and the political environment in which it occurred… now we have what appears to be a quasi moron sitting at the defense desk wondering why he’s there.
Look very closely people, because one of these things is not like the other.
Filed under: Aurora Massacre, Scott Creighton
The spitting at the guards a fallacy? http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31303850/detail.html
You know it’s kinda ironic that they were pushing this spitting story (that has been debunked), then this picture comes out. Llamas are known to spit.
3rd report that’s been false. only news site I read that reported it false, so most people probably still believe he is someone who claimed to be the joker and is now wearing a spit guard in prison. seems like the cops just made things up to take eyes off of them for not getting the other shooter/s and to make it sound better that the one person they did catch is nuts.
What we are reading on here is conspiracy fatigue, we cant be protestors, media guardians, and psychoanalysts as well … the primary flaw with the Rush Limbaugh standard of journalism or links to PrisonPlanet, using Webster Tarpley for example. be more discerning with your topics, lest we all arrive at the Mountains of Madness.
And yet someone starts a thread outlining corporate news peddling of govmnt lies and propaganda, something documented in hundreds of library books the world over, you should avoid blogging threads on a serious public news analysis site about your personal conspiracy theory.
Just as one would not say over the broadcast airwaves a personal suspicion when covering news, that you might on a message board because you can’t prove it with a source, because that theory is not particularly conducive to any point or reporting.
Plus, we get into that whole Dave Emory “Julian Assange is the product of Brainwasing Cult” horsh** or George Noory of “Coast to Coast” – ‘Obama is the AntiChrist’ insanity, you slide into Alex Jones type irresponsible claims.
http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-724-wiki-of-the-damned/
He must’ve been a confident guy to submit a picture of him feeding a llama with his application to such a competitive program/university. Seems like he had a sense of humor as well.
He sounded very interested in attending UI and going to meet with professors, etc. The email he later sent declining the offer almost sounds weird after reading through all the correspondence.
Nothing is adding up between what they want us to think he is and what is coming out from his past.
If he got any help putting together the application (help by way of suggestions from school) then they would probably have advised him to do something that set his application apart. Something humorous and with a touch of humility… something that others wouldn’t have had or thought of. The llama certainly falls into that category and since they claim to have referred to his as “llama” after that, it seems to have worked. It’s smart and none intrusive. If he came up with it himself, then he’s pretty smart.
Judging from the “you can’t miss the llama” line from one of the professors to the other it certainly did.
It’s really sad to see how much potential this guy had and then look at him in court. I wish we knew what the hell happened to him, but whatever it was, it’s really bad.
I would like to see the proof that he was leaving school. This guy seemed to be intent on continuing his education long past school, so what would make him drop out all of a sudden like that? I wonder if he was…
I wonder, I wonder, I wonder….I wonder why he decided to go to Colorado instead…..
that’s a very good question. Perhaps a closer look at the school he was attending might shed some light on that
It all seems weird. He definitely sounds passionate in his statements, like someone who has a thirst for knowledge. It’s a given considering the field he was in. Those people are not just pursuing a regular career, they are dedicating much of their lives to research. I’d imagine one would have to have an intrinsic wish to pursue such a path.
Judging from how brilliant he must’ve been and how promising his future looked to these universities I wouldn’t be surprised if they were fighting over him. He could’ve very well made a name for himself in the field and any institution of course would love that.
I don’t know which program is more prestigious between UI and Colorado, but I can imagine that CO was probably pursuing him aggressively if it made him change his mind. Something tells me his studies/the uni had something to do with what happened.
Yes my eyes are on the university. How can a man seemingly go from brilliant, dedicated, driven, self assured, self confident, sought after, potentially changing the science community with said brilliance to accused mass murder, shell of a human being who can barely comprehend what the hell is going on? All within a year? Something happened in Colorado. Something happened at the University. Something is very very wrong.
Maybe it would help to look up past graduates from that school and find out what they’re generally up to.
yes, I will try to have a look
Perhaps this was already posted, but this PDF shows his classes — topics/speakers
http://www.scribd.com/doc/100612191/James-Holmes-Class-PDF
Good find DD Covers,
I looked up Holmes presentation category… he choose microRNA biomarkers….. a confusing subject (for me)… seems our bodies have very tiny instruction strings in our blood that tell how effective our ‘treatments’ or body defense is reacting toward diseases . or shows our strongest or weakest links toward disease…. seems a lot of microRNA study is being done for cancer treatments… (no, I don’t understand how they are doing that) but…. we don’t know on which angle Holmes took on his presentation…
any form of study to advance cures… can also be used to advance disease… like in bio-chemical warfare…. and can be used to test people to see what weakness is being ‘fed’ to a generation or group of people in order to use a specific disease to wipe out large numbers of people very quickly and doing it without leaving the footprint of the murderers…
is it possible that Holmes aimed very aggressively at that? could that have been his huge mistake?
Ok question about the syllabus. In all of my college classes the syllabus is given to the students prior to the term starting. If we have an assignment for a paper or presentation where we choose the topic, we usually have to tell the professor our chosen topic by the third night of class or so, thus it isn’t listed on the syllabus since the syllabus was prepared prior. So if Holmes’ topic is listed on the syllabus, it’s possible that he didn’t choose the topic but was assigned it. Or else the syllabus was prepared after the students had chosen their topics, which wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense to me, but anything is possible.
This reply is for@Jan10 below… James does mention something (in jest) about not thinking he’ll be able to cure cancer from some research he’d done… so maybe that presentation topic does make sense for him to choose.
Here’s what I think is going on: “They” tried to malign this man, to paint him as a geeky, socially inept, awkward loner who frequented prostitutes, became mentally deranged, and actually wasn’t really that smart after all. When people didn’t buy that caricature (we know he was sociable, NOT the author of the hooker reviews, liked paintball, exceedingly curious and introspective, confident, etc.), another approach had to be taken. The Denver Post changed the article title to give this story a slant: namely, that Holmes couldn’t possibly be mentally ill, or as mentally ill as the defense may claim. It’s an attack against the only defense that is actively being pursued right now by Holmes’ attorneys that we know of.
When I read accounts of Holmes’ normalcy (and really, exceptionality), I don’t see someone who couldn’t possibly become exceedingly ill. Instead, I see all kinds of red flags indicating that something SUDDEN and DRASTIC happened to him at some point between the time he last visited with old friends in/around Dec. 2011 (and was described as the same old guy they’ve always known) and July 20. If Holmes gave the microDNA biomarkers presentation in May 2012 and was cogent and coherent, then that means the impetus for his becoming what he is now, mentally, lies in the very recent past. What was it?
I still think it’s interesting that the institution he studied at in CO has ties to the government, just like his psychiatrist. Considering how promising his career was I doubt they would just randomly pick him to sacrifice for some cover-up. They’d rather use those types of candidates for their own gain/research.
What if he was supposed to work on something that he didn’t agree with or went against his beliefs and it prompted him to try and withdraw? Maybe he already knew too much and they had to make sure his credibility is forever destroyed. The theory is left field but I’m just trying to make sense of what could’ve happened to have this guy deteriorate so much in such a short time.
I don’t think it’s out there to suggest that he was morally opposed to something and they had to quiet him sunshinez. Well, it’s a little out there, but so is the story we have been fed so far. Maybe he made a scientific discovery and they wish to keep it for themselves and had to get rid of the scientist for fear of others having the information.
This seems like a plausibility to me at least. I think that is very insightful indeed.
Do you all think we will hear from the judge tomorrow?
Possibly. I hope it turns out the way we want it to…
Here’s her bio, which is said to have been deleted from the school’s site:
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/07/dr-lynne-fentons-bio-that-was-deleted.html
her bio was deleted from the site?
That’s what it says in the link:
“Her bio has been deleted from the University of Colorado where she worked.”
His dad had info on LIBOR, that’s what happened
Not to go all Sci- Fi on you guys… but what if possibly he was exposed to something in the lab or experimenting on himself? It could explain why the school is so defensively secretive about releasing any info. It’s more than obvious that something is being kept from us. I don’t believe for a second his lawyers don’t know about it either, otherwise they wouldn’t want the case to be sealed.
Something has happened to his brain. Someone or something has destroyed it.
Whatever “they” are doing is working. My son is an unarmed security guard who works movie premieres,holding cell phones and checking purses for recording devices. Because they are premieres, it helps cut down on the bootlegging. People always grumbled and complained and gave him a hard time. He recently worked “Hope Springs”.People happily turned over their phones and opened their bags, saying” We understand completely”. They don’t get it at all. He was still only looking for recording devices!
Could this also be why there was no personal footage from inside the theater?
Maybe Nutze. And maybe whoever organised this knew that too. No guns or phones. Sitting ducks.
Hey Mew. I think I just answered my own question. The story always starts with the shooter either taking or making a call, then making his way to the exit. Did he have the only phone in the theater? Probably not, I’m sure witnesses would have said “We had to turn over our phones, why did he have one?”
Maybe the cinema did not have the no phone rule?
on the wikipedia (I know, not the most reliable source but only place I read it) it says people were txting and tweeting instead of calling 911…. yep. also a phone video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7sIiqq66rk what i noticed in that one is i don’t see anyone dressed in any standout costumes or hair colors as reported that so many people were dressed up and had wild hair colors making it hard to remember if they seen holmes
I noticed that also….. strange….. why would such a thing be said?
I used to date a huge movie fan. We went to at least one movie a week for years. Old theaters, new theaters, small and large. Mostly all north of Dallas,Tx. Not one time did we go thru a search of purses/bags or request of cell phones. Many of the theaters we would go to we would use the fire exits at the end of movie (like many others there) if we wanted to not wait in the long line to exit thru the front. Never an alarm, never had usher ask anyone not to exit that way. Same is true on our several premier opening movies. Same is true to the movies we went to in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Las Vegas, San Antonio, Houston, Galveston, Ft. Worth, etc.
My two cents on theater security.
He must have been unlucky to find out about something, or been involved in something, why else would he be chosen to be a patsy? I know there’s evil people in the world, but I don’t want to believe that any of us can wake up tomorrow in a car all drugged up and be arrested and accused of being a mass murderer.
it is a very scary thought yoused
Does anybody know why there were three strips of black tape on the rear of James Holmes’ car? See attached link, fourth photo down.
http://atruthsoldier.wordpress.com/tag/the-real-james-holmes/
I don’t know, doesn’t seem to be put there by CSI or police, it’s seen in the video with the robot checking out his vehicle for potential explosives. Maybe Holmes rigged it because it was broken. However, I think this is a decent question, I am a firm believer in Sherlock Holmes’ style of investigation, the truth is revealed through the details.
“It is, of course, a trifle, but there is nothing so important as trifles.”
yep
I noticed this too and thought possibly the tape could be used to tape over the “latch” on the exit door so it wouldn’t lock when closed?
I agree with most of the comments about the article, I really think something happened to him in May of 2012. From the photos I have seen of him, he’s smiling and seems so happy and now, in the courtroom, he’s like a different person. I think maybe he found got into something he was unable to escape in a way and tried to get out of it by resigning from the school. Maybe he was going back to San Diego or to another college, who knows really? And on one hand it is really suspicious that the school would hide his records, but maybe they don’t want to have their reputation ruined because of the incident, I don’t know. The question is why did he reject them and then decided to attend that school? I understand they waived the fee and gave him yearly check, but there has to be more to it than that.
It’s weird, isn’t it? You could tell from the e-mail exchanges that he was pursuing the UI route. And from all the communication among the professors it’s obvious they put in a lot of effort to make his visit as comfortable as possible for him. They wanted him to come to the school – he expressed UI was at the top of his list.
Then, out of nowhere, his short answer that he’ll be declining the offer.
I really, really want to know what made him go to Colorado. I’m gonna put some research into that school tomorrow.
This intrigues me too Sunshinez, I may join you in the digging.
It’s funny – I just did a quick Wikipedia search and it turns out the Anschutz family (the family the Medical campus was named after after they donated $91 million) owns over half of the Regal Entertainment Group (cinemas). It just so happens that Cinemark, which the Century 16 theater in Aurora belongs to, is listed as their biggest competitor.
Then I accidentally came across news from August 7th, apparently a guy with a 9mm handgun, ammo, knives, tactical gear (!) and a gas mask (!) was apprehended at a Regal 16 (!) movie theater in Ohio. Guess which movie he was going to see…
http://fox8.com/2012/08/07/regal-cinema-issues-statement-after-local-theater-arrest/
Weird.
good one sunshinez, I knew you would dig up something. Yeah heard about the second guy.
That guy had the ammo separate from weapons.. not loaded… which is legal… maybe he wanted to see the movie but also wanted to be prepared in case a shooter came in?
Really interesting that such a weak ‘maybe’ case occurs at a Regal theater…(sort of throws the light of innocence toward Regal?) maybe others were looking at the connection between Regal and the University and the shooting at Cinema 16?
Really good find sunshine
Good point Jan10
They made a big deal out of security “catching” the guy in time, apparently he was hanging out a while before the movie was supposed to start so they were suspicious.
Century 16 screws up all security measures and a dozen people die. Regal 16 prevents another Aurora like killing spree by gloriously apprehending the guy before he can do any damage.
On a side note……”The Anschutz Entertainment Group (AEG) is a sporting and music entertainment presenter and a subsidiary of The Anschutz Corporation. It is the world’s largest owner of sports teams and sports events, the owner of the world’s most profitable sports and entertainment venues, and under AEG Live the world’s second largest presenter of live music and entertainment events after Live Nation.
The AEG is the subject of a lawsuit regarding the death of Michael Jackson, filed by the singer’s mother, Katherine Jackson.” Wiki
Unrelated but interesting
And they own the Clarity Media Group, NRC Broadcasting.
“Century 16 screws up all security measures and a dozen people die. Regal 16 prevents another Aurora like killing spree by gloriously apprehending the guy before he can do any damage.” whoa, I’m still digging around in this cesspit of corruption.
Holmes was lured into some CIA program through his university. That’s exactly how MKUltra operated. It was disguised as something groundbreaking. Maybe he did drop out of school because he was convinced this was more important. Before he knew it he was working in a top secret lab where if he got drugged and brainwashed no one would know. I think he got fed a ton of amnesia drugs. I figure right now he doesn’t know whether or not he killed those people and is very vulnerable to being convinced he has to plead insanity.
BURUNDANGA — A Short Story For American Everyman By A Conspiracy Analyst
About The Author:
1.) Formerly autistic.
2.) Used psychedelic chemicals to escape autism, hyperlexia and dyspraxia (still with dyspraxia — can hardy type). Also involved in Eastern and Amerindian shamanism.
3.) Learned calculus and advanced mathematical logic alone, at an early age.
4.) Has had two all-day neuro-psych “IQ” tests at Harvard Med. School. Some results indicate advanced Alzheimer’s, others “off the charts.”
5.) You don’t need to believe all this. Pretend it’s all “just a story.”
Burundanga — what is it?
Burundanga is scopolamine, as derived from some plants of the Solanaceae family (which includes the borrachero tree in Columbia). They are related to “deadly nightshade,” tomatoes, potatoes, etc. Burundanga is an awesome chemical. It causes:
1.) Submissive behavior. People do whatever they are instructed to do when they are dosed with relatively large amounts of it (it is an overpowering submissicant). Their personal safety and moral values become totally irrelevant to them.
2.) Whatever they do under its influence becomes subject to pronounced temporary anterograde amnesia (they cannot remember what they did while under its influence) (sometimes the anterograde amnesia becomes permanent, unfortunately). Retrograde amnesia would be “not remembering who you are” afterward, but it does not cause this).
3.) Tachycardia (rapid heartbeat), sometimes resulting in fatal heart attack.
You could use a powerful submissicant chemical to instruct people to, say, blow up buildings, against their “will,” and they could do it but remember nothing about their missing time, for example.
There are about 30 “world class” universities in the United States. Every one of them is completely co-opted by government black-ops operatives. They have a big problem: People who are intelligent enough to invent new weapons tend to have “moral inclinations” to avoid projects that would lead to mass destruction. They need to know if such individuals could be programmed to do so under the influence of powerful submissicant chemicals. So of course they try to use their new chemicals on a particularly intelligent student. The most well-known subjects happen to be in their neuroscience programs.
That was their first mistake.
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-1-of-2
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/colombian-devil-s-breath-2-of-2
if this drug was used on Holmes, he would appear normal while under its influence…. but he wouldn’t be normal….
so if he appeared drugged when the police found him…. then maybe someone double drugged him…. ?
why don’t the Columbia police chop down all those terrible trees that grow wild in the city streets? Why do they allow the drug to grow everywhere if i is so terrible? What’s wrong with those people!
http://biopsychiatry.com/scopolamine/borrachero.html
I’m thinking maybe Holmes found out something he didn’t like.
That’s what I think too. He tries to leave and becomes a liability that is then taken care of.
That would make the most sense, after all you don’t destroy one of your most promising assets, unless you have no choice, and if you do you might as well get some of your investment back, and a little pay back too.
I just wonder what exactly was done to him to mess him up this bad. Drugs? Some form or mind control? The latter wouldn’t even be hard to believe since that’s the exact field he was working in. Maybe that’s what he didn’t want to get into.
I wish we knew what his current mental state is and if he has any understanding of what’s going on by now.
Somebody could go in and check. Undercover like. Wonder what the latest the lady has to say that is in the area, that did the vids on the corruption in the area? Wonder if that was her that was at the hearings too?
Do we know why they wouldn’t just take James out in an “accident” if he found out something? Like why shoot up the theater. I feel like surely it has to do with much more than just gun control , but I just don’t know what the goal was.
Two or more birds with one stone. AND don’t cross the bog boys.
The lost, somewhat questioning , look on his face during court, combined with how calmly he surrendered, and also the spine board, makes me wonder if he had been dosed with scopolamine. The man appears drugged in court, struggling to grasp what is happening.
Absolutely. And in addition to the drugging before the shooting, there was drugging afterward. Check out close-ups of Holmes on his first day in court. His PUPILS ARE HUGE. The only things I know of that cause pupils that large are drugs and alcohol (oh, and that stuff they give you at the eye doctor!). If they gave him drugs while in jail, the judge is out of his mind to accept that Holmes has any inkling as to what is going on around him. Many have said they feel Holmes faked his behavior in the courtroom, but the proof that this isn’t the case is his pupils. The eyes don’t lie.
That’s a fact. One of the first things a cop will look for.
So what drug make the eyes dilate and make ones behaviour ebb between nodding off and being violently awake even to the point of seeing things? Because that is what I saw on the video. And I have seen this behaviour in pubs/nightclubs as well.
Also, it’s apparent that Holmes had either shaved/plucked his eyebrows in July (see the AFF pics and mugshot), or that some kind of drug he was taking caused the change. Is there some kind of drug that would cause one’s eyebrows and eyelashes to thin out?
When you look at “normal” photos of him from a year or so ago, it’s clear that his natural hair color and eyebrow color is very dark brown. Yet, in the mugshot, AFF, and courtroom images, his eyebrows, facial hair, and root hair colors look auburn. Could just be the fluorescent lights or something, but there’s definitely something up with his eyebrows. Why would he shave/pluck his eyebrows? For that matter, why would a previously good-looking, well-dressed guy post pictures of himself looking like Carrot Top and think that that it would attract women? It almost seems like a hazing prank you would pull on your straight-laced neuroscientist buddy: drug him, dye his hair and shave his eyebrows, and create a Match.com profile for him in which he lists “Dumb and Dumber” as a favorite movie. Give me a break.
Totally, I thought the same thing, not about the eyebrows although I did notice the difference, but the interests. Star Wars, yes, I can believe but Dumb and Dumber? No way! I sat there reading it and shaking my head going “No, this is not this person”
I know meth users like to pull out eyelashes and eyebrows BUT they also like to pick their skin too. There are no scabby marks over his body.
Absolutely agree with the prank thing. Also indicative of that is the fact he put “small/average” as his you-know-what size. People put these profiles up to make themselves look as amazing as possible, and his was just the opposite of that.
Also, the will you visit me in prison line…If it could be proven that this page was a fake and somebody else set it up for him it would prove that he was not the one that orchestrated this at all.
The dating websites confuse me… the only explanation I can think of is that it is an attempt to frame him by showing he had beforehand intentions of the the crime with the headline of “Will you visit me in prison?”. You wouldn’t set up a facebook for him because there is a much higher chance of people he knows befriending him. The pictures are horrible, and the comments he writes ensure that nobody is going to contact him for a hook up. Therefore, it would go pretty much unnoticed to Holmes and people he may know. But after the crime, when everybody is searching like crazy for him, it will be found, and the headline will further help to seal his guiltiness.
This is a reply to curiousintrovert and sunshinez (couldn’t find the reply button on your comments):
If you’ve ever read personal ads on dating websites, you’ve probably noticed that some people like to joke about being in jail, having no teeth, living in their parents’ basement, etc., to try to show that they have a sense of humor. My initial take on the “Will you visit me in prison” attention-grabber thing was that it was a joke–that it was ironic ’cause this dude was straight-laced, and his worst crime was speeding.
You know, I was joking before about the hazing thing, but after I commented on it, it kind of echoed in my mind for a while. What if . . . what if Holmes was the subject of some sick joke/experiment conducted by student/faculty researchers at the university. What if they wanted to see how far somebody could actually go under the power of suggestion, or under the influence of some drug they were studying? Just speculation, but anything seems more probable now than the official story.
Something else has occurred to me: If Holmes did, in fact, drop out of school, his health insurance could have been impacted, and maybe he had to quit prescriptions. Perhaps he was trying to wean himself off psychiatric drugs–the “discontinuation” (i.e., withdrawal) symptoms of some of these drugs (esp. SSRIs) are horrendous and have actually caused some otherwise “normal” people to experience episodes of psychosis, not to mention a host of physical symptoms. I have sometimes wondered whether he quit taking medication, then tried to self-medicate to deal with the withdrawal, hence the vicodin allegedly found on his person at the time of the arrest. Withdrawal wouldn’t explain his amnesia, though. Or a killing spree!
If the vicodin wasn’t planted on him and it was actually his (which I kind of doubt), then someone either (a) prescribed it, or (b) sold it to him. If the answer is (b), then there is a dealer out there near Aurora who might be able to shed some light on Holmes’ habits. Also, JH looked completely *baked* in the AFF/match.com profile pics, imho. The inflammation in his face is off the charts. Marijuana, alcohol, or . . . scopolamine?
Yeah he is “off chops” in those photos.
If we are going down the drugging path it has to be a 2+ month drugging path.
He would not remember anything for at least 72 hours. It would be a big blank.
That would fit in with the fact that he seemed fine Tuesday night before the shooting. They could’ve doped him up and rigged his apartment in the meantime, then dropped him off at the scene the night of the shooting.
Anybody know how long that drug can be traced in somebody’s system?
Possibly keeping him doped up on and off for months? Hence the failure of the examations? Leaving the University? The buying up of the weapons and explosives? The photos of the match maker sites? The colouring of the hair? The rumoured wondering around town bludging cigarettes and drinking alone at bars and visiting hookers? Is this possible to drug someone up for so long without anyone knowing?
Of course we do not know, we may never know :/
He wasn’t hooking up with prostitutes or cigarettes…that was another ‘James Holmes’ that lived in Aurora…. a 51 year old man who is still being confused with the shooter…
Right, Jan10.
Here’s the website that points out that “LDMaster,” who posted prostitute reviews and belonged to gun-related websites, is associated with a 50-something year old guy, believed to be a retired cop named Jim Holmes, also from Aurora–not 24-year old James Holmes.
So now we know that Holmes did not identify himself as the joker and did not post prostitute reviews, which by extension means that the prostitute who came forward attesting to have slept with Holmes is probably a liar, too.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2012/07/searching-for-more-info-on-james-holmes.html
The vicodin is just information provided to us by MSM. We don’t even know if that was true. We’re supposed to believe the man we saw in the courtroom video just blurted out to police upon his arrest, “Hey, I’ve taken vidodin, my apartment’s laced with explosives, and oh yeah, I’m the joker.” Please. ALL of that sounds like utter bs to me.
Withdrawal WOULD explain the amnesia, my brother came off an SSRI at HALF the original dose and suffered seizures, psychosis, memory loss etc. . .lasted for 6 weeks, he’s fine now but I will add that if you have aspergers/autism then drugs have a much more potent effect as those with autism have a more permeable blood/brain barrier/ My brother it turns out has aspergers hence the extreme side-effects of the drug and severity of the discontinuation syndrome. It is reported that James suspected he had dysphoric mania, I believe he thought that because he was having a bad reaction to the meds he was prescribed (meds can make dysphoric mania much worse). I reckon he panicked and came off his meds cold-turkey and has suffered temporary psychosis as a severe withdrawal symptom. Seriously, my brother was a PSYCHOTICALLY aggressive MADMAN for weeks with the EXACT same glazed stare that James has yet he was still able to make plans etc at the time he was just not capable of RATIONAL behaviour and morphed from a very gentle considerate lad into a violent hyper-sexual monster who didn’t sleep for days and was having multiple seizures ( weirdly he would be manically happy for a time directly after the seizures, it seemed to be a post-ictal bliss). The experience completely changed my beliefs in free-will and mental health, I am now a mental health recovery worker because of it, desperately trying to educate people about the dangers of these medications.
Scopolamine is made from the Borrachero tree’s seeds.
Although the tree is said to be “common in Colombia”, this tree undoubtedly grows in San Diego, James Holmes’ home town!
I live 100 miles north of San Diego, and this tree grows just fine here; it’s not an uncommon sight in Southern California coastal areas.
I never knew the name of the tree, growing in my back yard for the past 35 years, until I saw it in this recent article dated 12 May 2012:
“The most dangerous drug in the world: ‘Devil’s Breath’ chemical from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even kill”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html
Hundreds of photos of the Borrachero tree can be seen in “Google Images” by searching for “Brugmansia candida” (the tree’s official name).
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According to the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, the drug – also known as hyoscine – causes the same level of memory loss as diazepam.
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Absurd. Diazepam is simply Valium, which does NOT cause anterograde memory loss as high-dose scopolomine does. If you took enough Valium, it could. But hyoscine is NOT scopolamine. And it is NOT a submissicant, as scopolamine is. You might have some anterograde memory issues with Valium. But nothing like with scopolamine. They are totally different. And you know that.
Here’s a video I saw last month on youtube that talks about scopolamine (sp?) i.e. Devil’s breath.
Geez, I tried posting this four times, but it didn’t work. Giving it another go.
“Really Red huh”
Someone on another board noticed that the font used in the red photo of Holmes on the AFF and match.com profiles is strikingly similar to the font used on albums by relatively unknown (outside of Houston) hardcore/punk band Really Red–particularly their album, “Teaching You the Fear.”
I read the lyrics from this album, and nothing stood out as particularly relevant. It’s typical punk stuff, kind of all over the map politically (even though Wikipedia calls it leftist). There is one reference to dyeing one’s hair and to prostitution, but they don’t strike me as terribly significant, given this is a hardcore band. Furthermore, you can’t convince me for one nanosecond that Holmes was a music geek into obscure 70/80s bands on the Houston punk scene.
I had pretty much written off the Really Red connection as a weird coincidence or maybe a red herring to distract us. It may very well be that. However, I couldn’t help but notice the name of the tiny indie lable that released this band’s records, that released “Teaching you the Fear”:
C.I.A. Records
See for yourself:
“Really Red huh” photo (notice the capitalized letters): http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/GCAOV.jpg
Really Red band/”Teaching You the Fear”: http://punknotprofit.blogspot.com/2007/09/really-red-discography.html
http://www.breakmyface.com/bands/reallyred.html
Really Red albums released on CIA Records: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Really_Red
Calling card of the conspirators? Synchronistic echoes of truth from the universe? Clue sent from from Holmes’ drugged subconscious mind? Red Herring? Stupid coincidence?
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And in other news, Youtube (or someone) keeps removing the tags on my Aurora Massacre videos, which results in keeping them “buried.” Today marks the second time that I’ve had to add the tags back to my vids. Is this a known Youtube glitch, or is somebody messing with me here?
That’s a really interesting find. I can see the similarity between the fonts. What are the chances? Might very well be “them” leaving behind their little gang tags here and there.
i know that they love music as “programming” tools, even for torture. Interesting.
A clue left by Holmes? very possible….
Or a clue left by “them”?
Something to do with the band AND his hair colour…..
what the poster behind him? looks kinda scary with the eyes and red lol
I will check it out Polaris, I do not mind a bit of punk music. On the subject of music, I find it hard to believe he was into techno music tbh.
It said “ReallyRad AOA”. I promise that as fact. What it means? I have no idea.
Interesting, AOA can stand for soooo many things, for example Anarchists of America, there are so many possibilites…
I will ask an old punk buddy and get back to you all. Hopefully it might ring a bell with him!
I’m quite certain it’s Really Red and either “huh” or “hah.” The middle letter in Red looks exactly like the “e” in Really–it isn’t wide enough to be the “a” that we can also see in the world Really. Also, it’s a red pic.
So it may be just a reference to the colour of the photo…..”Really Red, heh” like he might as well be saying “Really Red, lol”?
Also the whole picture is red. If that has significance, might there also be any significance in the other pic, the photoshopped one with him and Keeley Hazell? Apparently she is British but lives in Hollywood now and has a movie, St. George’s Day, coming out this year. I read the synopsis of the movie but nothing struck me as relating to this case, but I’m not great at picking up on subtleties. And why would hebe wearing headphones in that photo? It’s just odd.
Paints a picture of an intimate sort of program where students and teachers are involved, concerned with each other, and want everyone to succeed. So, you invest all this money and time on a person, and they withdrawal without a reason and nobody cares??? Doesn’t make sense. Also, from an introvert’s perspective… this is not my ideal college. However, I’m sure the program itself played into his decision and also other incentives they may have offered.
It is the other incentives I am worried about.
BURUNDANGA-II — This Scopolomine Story Is Still Just Another Theory
As I mentioned, scopolamine causes profound submissive behavior (it’s a very powerful submissicant that can allow people to be instructed to do things that m-a-j-o-r-l-y contradict their most deeply held personal values). It also causes TOTAL temporary anterograde amnesia — they are left completely without any memory of what they did under its influence. It also causes severe tachycardia (rapid heat rate that can result in heart attack). Yet more unfortunately, the anterograde amnesia can become permanent. Also, continual use can build up tolerance (tachyphylaxis) which affects the mental, but not the tachycardia effects, so it must be used at intervals over a space of time. It also can induce hallucinations, which are always said to be very disabling, but they are not nearly as disabling as claimed. So here is one scenario:
The handlers were doing an experiment using a scopolmine-like drug to find out if extremely talented scientists could be induced to develop weapons that their normal moral values would prevent them from creating. (The drug had perhaps had some previous success in causing normal individuals to do things they would find unsavory, such as making occupied buildings explode). But something went terribly amiss, and the subject developed PERMANENT anterograde amnesia — an astonishingly peculiar mental condition. About ten years ago I read about a man who has lived with permanent anterograde amnesia since the 1960’s (maybe in the New Yorker). He was a complete Hippie at the time when he contracted the permanent anterograde amnesia, so he remembered everything he experienced up until he contracted it, but cannot recall ANYTHING that he has experienced since then. Despite all the mental suppression reflected in the “Age of Aquarius” style exhilaration, I think the sixties (and early seventies) was mostly a sort of faux celebration of the far-down- the-road, yet inevitable and impending Apocalypse. Yet we were mostly carefree and happy. We all possessed a kind of deep economic and spiritual wealth that has been brutally stripped away since then. Despite the ever-looming H-bombs and social chaos, we were far more friendly and cheerful! So this man, who remembers nothing since the 1960’s is always cheerful and upbeat; just a joy to be around!
So, if James Holmes developed permanent anterograde amnesia, then perhaps his senior black-ops handlers opted to attempt a very different kind of experiment with their very special subject. For the movie theater massacre, the handlers would have needed to very close by to maintain control and closely observe the results.
Of course, this “chemical mind control theory” could be completely off the mark. But there enough inconsistencies and coincidences to begin to rival those of the Kennedy assassinations, and even 9/11, Suggesting that something very clandestine must be involved.
The first two short videos in the link below seem to be rather incisive and informative:
http://www.proparanoid.net/enter.htm
what if james agreed to be the experiment or guinea pig for a new drug or mind control? would there be some consent form he had to sign to agree to be a subject for an experiment?
I think it is amusing that the MSM keep referred to James’ photo with the llama as “bizzare”.
Found this on the Facebook site
Whoa! This is huge!
All aspects of this case are unraveling so fast now that whoever is behind all of this surely cannot keep up, cannot spin lies fast enough to explain away the lies that are uncovered hour after hour. I really have hope–an expectation actually–that if we the people assert ourselves, we can take control of this case and steer it towards an optimal outcome.
The perpetrators of these psy-ops have gotten away with murder too many times, and in their hubris they underestimate the power and intellect of those whom they attempt to dupe.
This is the end of the road for those responsible for the Aurora massacre. The jig is up.
Yet, I don’t understand why the mentally ill angle is all they are concerned about… there are police evidence scene photos, police scanner audio, witness statements, etc. all of which are arguably just as important, if not more so, than his mental state. And they dont need the prosecutor for those.
Ugh.
Judge’s ruling on unsealing records expected today (says Denver news).
Commissioner Ray Kelly of New York city said that, and when reporters asked Chief Dan Oates about it, he declined to comment. How on earth would Commissioner Ray Kelly know about it the morning after?
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251&singlePage=true#.UCkE4Hg0WEk
I have no idea why this guy was even commenting at all. Not surprised his Joker story turned out to be a pile of steaming bs.
It is interesting how they are admitting this with the gag order in place? Where is the pressure coming from? The internet?
Probably. That’s the only place where the case has been taken apart and lies and fallacies have been uncovered, and it’s been spreading like wildfire.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1934779/pg1
thought youd enjoy this link
That is very interesting thank you
I think some of the footage and 911 calls we are seeing and hearing are from that drill that was reported to be like this shooting. They are mixing real and fake footage to form a better story to believe.
Question about the apartment block that was on fire last week in Aurora that killed two people. Was that the same apartment block where James Holmes was reported looking for a new place to live?
I don’t know if there’s any information on a specific place he was asking at, but I know that the area he was reported to have been asking around in is where the apartment burned down. If you go on Google Maps you’ll notice that James’ apartment and that building are literally right by each other. The fire happened at 1747 Peoria Street.
Another thing that stinks to high heavens.
If you knew that you were about to commit mass murder at a theater and then lure more people into your apartment where you had bombs set up to blow the whole building to pieces, why would you be looking to move into a place right down the street?
It makes absolutely no sense.
If you knew that you were about to commit mass murder and blow up your apartment block, wouldn’t commiting suicide be the next step?
You would either plan to get away alive (which all the tactical gear would explain) or go in knowing that you won’t come out alive.
You wouldn’t be trying to look for a new place to stay, and you most certainly wouldn’t just be waiting at the crime scene for the cops to tell them all about your genius plan.
If he was planning on getting away, wouldn’t his car be parked facing forward ensuring a quick escape?
Absolutely..which is probably what the real shooters did.
exactly !
Hey ! If Holmes had dropped out of school… why would he be looking for a new place near the school? Wouldn’t he be planing on gong back to California?
I’ve wondered if he had quite school. One it is summer break, but two, if he quite when he said he did, than how did he get all those delivers at school that they claim he did. Course that is a story that is pretty fluid too, with a couple dozen variations. Like everything else about this.
with that comment I’m wondering if they searched the car for finger prints or hair. I’m guessing they didn’t because the car was removed quickly. They probably aren’t going that deeply to do finger prints and such. I read a comment on one of those forums they didn’t even test Holmes hands for gun powder residue…don’t know if that’s true or not.
great find.
One of the guys that mentioned Holmes was asking around for available apartments commented on the fire.
“I saw red flames and heard a boom, boom, boom as the fire spread through the building at incredible speed,” said Rosando Casaus, building manager for the complex right behind The Fitz at 1747 Peoria St.”
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21255289/bystanders-rush-help-residents-leaping-from-blazing-aurora
http://www.fitzapts.com/
This video says the only people who have access to the building are the residents.
The above is in reference to Mew’s video on Holmes searching for new apartment… the comment is farther down than expected…
James Holmes was Looking for New Apt 9 days before Shooting – Acting Normal
Arson at Home of Key Aurora Witnesses who Saw Holmes 9 Days Before Shooting Carl Allen
Wow! This just gets crazier and crazier!!
It is half a block away, the apartment that burned down was the one that these witnesses lived in. Carl Allen was in the news twice in 1 month, I guess he saved a baby’s life.
It is interesting that the Anschutz Medical Campus use to be an army hospital, Fitzsimons Army Medical Center. That was before Mr Anschutz came into the story. I wonder if it still has connections to the Army other than the good doctor Lynne Fenton.
Philip Anschutz and his family have their hands in a little bit of everything, including politics. He’s a republican and donates to various causes, including anti-gay activism.
If you check out his son Christian’s resume it will become even more obvious that these people have close ties to the government/military, even the Denver Police, FBI, etc.
http://leeds.colorado.edu/board/anschutz
Oh he is quite connected indeed. Nice find.
(if my comment is permitted) If there was anyone in Ameriduh that noticed this happened, I am pretty sure they already forgot. Oh, and that’s the vast majority, unfortunately. Buckle up for regional civil war as these people will be able to be directed at whomever/whenever. I doubt that most other nations, even the sanitized fourth reich EU are as zombified as the mass mind controlled USA
hello, my probably pointless comment was censored, again. I dont have an hour to sit here and try to put it thru. I doubt I’m the only one
huihuihui, Scott will find your comment as soon as he gets his computer set back up…. your comment has probably went into the ‘spam’ category …done by wordpress due to the Word Press rules and regulations….
nice depth and range of thought guys…..but you might want to check out his father, he was schedualed to testify as an expert in fraud in the libor scandal…..just sayin’.
Fact check.
First thing that grabbed my attention was the $22,660 stipend that the University of Illinois offered him as well as the waiving of tuition fees. This is probably the storytelling that is used to justify where he supposed got his money to purchase all those guns.
Calling bs on that one.
The 22K stipend smells like total b.s. – me think.
To answer all your questions, do some research into SCOPOLAMINE. That is all I can say here…
My fellow Americans.. There has been a switch.. Look closely at the before and after photos of him… dark hair and smile, and red/balck hair and no expression… it is the only answer. Now where is the first young man?
This has all the markings of another false flag event just like the Wisconsin and Alabama shootings, all VERY QUESTIONABLE in their conclusions and witnesses claim more than one shooter but the media WILL NOT publish their accounts. Something very wrong with the official stories in all these events.
SCOPALOMINE….the Government had an agenda, shutting his father up was part of it and James took one for the team….Look up SCOPALOMINE…….It’ll make sense if your mind is open.
Spelling correction – SCOPAOLAMINE
Wow! Thanks for the heads up. Could help explain all sorts of events where people seem to go ape shit! Scary idea, getting dosed with this shit.
this youtube channel has lots of good vids.
https://www.youtube.com/user/HistoricalRecordsVLT?feature=watch
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http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21302927/judge-keeps-most-theater-shooting-case-sealed
There are drugs that when coupled with hypnosis can enable a person to be programmed to do whatever they want. With scopolamine they don’t even have to hypnotize you. Luckily, I had watched “The Manchurian Candidate” and proved a great disappointment to my handlers.
I’m noticing that the MSM smear campaign disturbingly is taking a new tack now. Previously, we were led to believe that Holmes was a shoe-gazing nerd-psycho. Now that all the attempts at character assassination along these lines have been debunked, however, TPTB have taken new approach: they’re making Holmes out to be super-normal (and, therefore, incapable of being as mentally ill as the defense will suggest). This is why we’re only now learning that “The Joker” story was a lie and we’re only now seeing Holmes’ thoughtful grad school application–to make it seem impossible that he could be ill.
Here’s another story they’re planting along the same “super-normal” story lines–now they’re saying Holmes had regular drinking buddies that he hung out with on weekends, and that these people recall him as “very normal.”
It seems innocuous enough, but I see what they’re doing here:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/movie-theater-shooter-james-holmes-had-regular-drinking-buddies-according-to-aurora-mayor/
If Holmes had drinking buddies whom he spent time with every weekend, surely it wouldn’t be too difficult to hunt one down, so to speak, and ask them when they last saw Holmes. If he socialized regularly and was a full-time PhD student, when did he find time to learn all about guns and bomb assembly and to amass an arsenal?
This video? Something is Very Seriously Wrong Here Aurora Mayor Steve Hogan on James Holmes
Anyone see all the new court documents added today?
http://www.courts.state.co.us/Courts/District/Case_Details.cfm?Case_ID=152
And even though I am not super hopeful, I still think bombarding them with well written thoughts and questions, couldn’t hurt.
The contact info for public defenders seems to be:
Douglas K. Wilson, Colorado State Public Defender
Daniel King (No.26129)
Tamara Brady (No.20728)
Chief Trial Deputy State Public Defenders
1290 Broadway, Suite 900
Denver, CO 80203
Phone: 303-764-1400
Fax.303-764-1478
state.pubdef@coloradodefenders.us
that picture of him is photoshopped. if you look at the reflection on the glasses… you don’t see what is in front of him.
Again, perhaps previously mentioned, but this is by far the most interesting read I’ve seen in a while:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48415
Yet even with all the information there, here, and other places…. it all seems pointless to discuss without some actionable plan to help or change course. This kid is going down, and I hate it. But for my own sanity, I think I have to be done thinking about it…. hopefully you guys will get something done!
I think a lot of us are trying to get the info contained on this blog and other places to his lawyers right now. The contact info was posted somewhere above. I’m not sure what else can be done at this point in time…
Wish you luck, Sunshinz,…
just maybe, the defense will also be involved in their own private investigations…
This article just was cited at Rense.com:
Aurora Massacre – Jimmy Holmes And The Llama
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/aurora-massacre-jimmy-and-the-llama/
Whoops! Circular link! Try
Headline News Stories 24/7 — Aug. 14, 8/14/12 — Search to:
“Aurora Massacre – Jimmy Holmes And The Llama”
http://rense.com/
Might better try:
Headline News Stories 24/7 — Aug. 14, 8/14/12 — Search to:
_Jimmy Holmes And The Llama_
http://rense.com/
Just a quick comment and a question here. Firstly, I would like to say how angered I am that we the public are pushed out of this one. I’m thinking it’s because we the public had plenty of access to videos of others that were actually in the theater stating there was a 2nd man. How can you discount that? The public was quick to post and notice things that we shouldn’t have. A cover up? You betcha!
My question is though, and it really concerns me as a parent. Where are his parents in this? How come we have not seen (or at least I have not) them talking about their son? From what I’ve understood the Father was involved in a scandal of some sort, but aside from that, wouldn’t you as a parent have something to say about your child you purportedly committed such a heinous crime?
(was smart) so do you think he is forever brain washed? can mind control permanently change someone for good? if it was drugs eventually they will wear off and he would return to normal unless he is continually drugged? I guess I can research that myself but seems others here already have better knowledge of it. seems pretty sad someone as smart as he is/was could now permanently be basically a vegetable staring into his lap.
I know there are groupies already trying to write to him, and my own morbid curiosity wants to write to him, not because I’m a groupie or condone what happened with the shooting but I’m just curious to see what he writes back. if he still writes/talks as intelligently as he once did, his hand writing compared to his signature on his booking report and gun range application and even if he is allowed to communicate with anyone. but then I’m thinking it’s probably a dangerous path to try because if this is a government op they might try to suicide anyone that suspects things or that tries to talk to him.