Aurora Massacre: ABC Reports Multiple Shooters

Posted on August 6, 2012 by willyloman

“One suspect is in custody and believes one more suspect that is on the loose”

I wonder if he ended up heading over to Wisconsin.

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  1. Marie, on August 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm said:

    ABC said ‘it’s been confirmed, some kind of explosive device was found’….’we don’t know if it was found in the theatre, or thrown in’…they are talking about the ‘gas canisters’???

    I missed this one earlier! So the story changed from ‘expolsive device’ to ‘tear as’? ??

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    • kay wilkes, on August 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm said:

      Both were mentioned. The police radio indicated that there may be an explosive device near the vehicle or inside the theater. The gas canisters were reported by the witnesses.

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  2. chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 2:46 pm said:

    I noticed this, can’t find the video. Do we know the piece of equipment Oates was talking about was a gas mask for sure?

    What if it was a knife?

    JOHN MILLER: Now you haven’t had time to be briefed on a lot of detail aspects of the investigations but you did have a chance to talk to the officer who actually arrested him. I imagine that officer in confronting him seeing a guy in heavy body armor with a ballistic helmet and an AR-15, probably first assumed he was a S.W.A.T. officer. How did that arrest go down? What did he say?

    DANIEL OATES: Without going into too many details it was one aspect of what he was wearing that did not fit what a S.W.A.T. officer might be wearing. There was one particular piece of equipment that he had on him that was out of place. And I am so proud of my officers that they spotted that right away and challenged him. I can’t tell you. In that chaos, it is quite reasonable that an officer might have confused him for another– for a S.W.A.T. officer, a heavily armed officer who was responding to the scene.

    So kudos to my two cops who grabbed this guy and that they– and that sharp observation that they made immediately that led them to suspect him as being the suspect.

    BOB SCHIEFFER: Chief, it’s Bob Schieffer again. You don’t– can you tell us what that piece of the equipment was or would you–

    DANIEL OATES: No, I prefer to– I’d rather not. I prefer to leave that for the evidence at trial.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57477456/face-the-nation-transcripts-july-22-2012-aurora-mayor-and-police-chief-mayor-bloomberg-pm-netanyahu/?pageNum=2&tag=contentMain;contentBody

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    • chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm said:

      Here’s another article that quotes that Face the Nation Interview
      Chief Daniel Oates of the Aurora police praised the arresting officers on the CBS program “Face the Nation” for noticing that Mr. Holmes’ gear was not quite like that of the other S.W.A.T. officers or he might well have escaped, mistaken for one of the responders.
      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/23/us/online-ammunition-sales-highlighted-by-aurora-shootings.html?_r=2&pagewanted=2

      Isn’t this total proof that someone easily could have escaped into the night if they weren’t holding a bloody knife? (or whatever piece of equipment it was) The Aurora police chief himself said it publicly, that’s about as credible source as there is.

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      • Jan10, on August 7, 2012 at 2:57 pm said:

        What? I thought an officer noticed a man sitting in the white car…. and he saw a gas mask and a weapon… and he said he thought he had the suspect…. they did not mention the man was in full gear… ?? and yet this report says the officers were alert to noticing one of ‘them’ had on different gear…….. are they saying the suspect was standing among them?
        Would an officer be just sitting in a white car while on duty and searching for a shooter? None of this sounds right… there had to be two suspects…

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        • Jessie, on August 7, 2012 at 4:05 pm said:

          I believe there was more than one. From the police audio, one of the officers asked another officer if that was the suspect in the white car, which was in the back of the theatre, I believe they then said (later on in the audio) that there was another suspect in all black gear, one in plaid and another with a black book bag. While they were talking about the other suspects, JH was in the cop car already apprehended by police around 12:46am. So, I think there were more than two. Even though James Holmes said he was the only one, one cop said he didn’t think so because he was getting conflicting reports from witnesses and one of the witnesses was a construction worker.

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          • Mew, on August 7, 2012 at 6:03 pm said:

            On the police tapes they said:
            1. one person with a white and blue plaid shirt
            2. one person all in black with a black backpack
            3. one person with a red backpack.

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    • chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm said:

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    • CuriousIntrovert, on August 7, 2012 at 9:07 pm said:

      That ‘Face the Nation’ interview makes me want to scream. How do people fall for that stuff?

      Why all the secrecy? They give you a tiny nibble to pique your interest, then refuse to tell you anymore about it. If it’s obvious he did it, and he left a massive trail of evidence, then why can’t we know anything more than vague details? And why since there is a gag order are we still getting slices of info fed to us and very scanty details about them, with only a ‘source’ to credit for the info? It’s like a magic show, they try to distract you with the emotion of the event so you don’t look at what is really happening.. then they abracadabra everyone and all you see is what they want you to see. I have yet to see any security camera footage from ANYWHERE ! Doesn’t the cop that arrested him have a camera in his car? They took all those photos of the apartment, and detailed it to news stations so they could recreate it on some computer graphic program to show us.. so why can’t we see the actual pics? What is the difference? What are you hiding behind the curtain?

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  3. chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 2:53 pm said:

    Another thing is I can’t find anything anywhere claiming they found a knife on the scene or the word knife anywhere on google. If someone has seen it, put it on here. They said he bought a knife online, thats all I’ve seen on it.

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  4. kay wilkes, on August 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm said:

    None of the evidence makes sense. Did you see one of the links posted in the other thread from gyandi (?) about two of the witnesses who were former military, stating they immediately noticed the smell of “tear gas?” Which is interesting, because everyone should have had known that or even suffered symptoms.

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  5. chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm said:

    Here’s a weird image

    Bomb squad during the day out front of theater thinking there may be explosives in there still.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/at-least-a-dozen-killed-in-colorado-theater-shooting/2012/07/20/gJQAYRWnxW_gallery.html#photo=21

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  6. chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm said:

    Do the arapahoe SWAT even wear black outfits? At that Denver mall drill last year, all the SWAT I see are in green. Wouldn’t the cops have noticed his black, instead of green outfit before, or even at the same time as his non regulation gas mask?

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  7. Lilaleo (@Lilaleo), on August 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm said:

    I am afraid I can’t find the article right now since I have read so many… But, a couple of days after the shooting, I remember reading that the police had recognized the suspect was not actual swat because he was wearing a certain type of neck protector gear that swat teams do not wear.

    I just remember thinking that this was not too credible since it was a minor element in an otherwise full protective gear, especially considering the relative darkness of the parking lot and the chaotic atmosphere.

    Does anyone else remember reading this?

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    • Jessie, on August 6, 2012 at 8:44 pm said:

      I thought it was a helmet that was not police issued? I didn’t know it was neck protective gear. Hmm, maybe I misread it.

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      • chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 9:18 pm said:

        Actually as seen in this video, CBS News was reporting that the piece of equipment was a gas mask. I never found where they got that from. Its all in this video tho.

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  8. doppio22, on August 6, 2012 at 9:13 pm said:

    Hey everyone, I’m new to WordPress. Am I an idiot and can’t figure out how to upload a photo on here or is it not possible? I have a photo I found tonight that I’ve never seen before – it’s a picture of the second face mask and right behind it is a grey/blue car with what appears to be blood on the bumper and police tape around it. Wha…?? Like I said, I’ve never come across it until tonight – and I’ve certainly never seen it in the media. So, any help on getting this pic on here? Thanks!!

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  9. doppio22, on August 6, 2012 at 9:45 pm said:

    Lol, nevermind, no pics to be posted. Here’s the link:

    http://www.kansas.com/2012/07/20/2414607_a2415037/shooting-at-colorado-theater.html

    Has anyone seen this before? And where behind the theater is this taken??

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  10. chris p, on August 6, 2012 at 9:50 pm said:

    Yeah and there’s actually a version of that image that shows more. That photo is cropped. It’s down at the end of the theater I think.

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    • doppio22, on August 6, 2012 at 10:16 pm said:

      Okay, so help me with this –
      Scroll down to the third picture on this site:

      http://www.kansas.com/2012/07/20/2414607_a2415037/shooting-at-colorado-theater.html

      That’s the photo I originally posted. What angle is the photo being shot? Was it taken in the back lot and what we are seeing is the back lot? It’s impossible based on the logistics of the pavement/sidewalk. So, was it taken so we are actually seeing the side of the building, not the back? So it would be the right side of the building if we were standing in the back parking lot facing the building?

      If that’s the case then clearly the gas mask was NOT found in front of a door as in the 6th photo down on the website.

      In that 6th photo you can see the water drain (barely) in the upper/middle right hand side of photo. Also notice the evidence marker #3 is to the left of the gas mask, in front of the door.

      Now scroll up to the 4th picture on the website. Now you clearly see the water drain (pipe, whatever) with the evidence marker #3 again but the gas mask is no where to be seen. And even if they removed it already, if you put it back it would no longer be in front of a door.

      Do they repeat evidence marker numbers?

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  11. doppio22, on August 6, 2012 at 11:28 pm said:

    And look at the curb in pictures #4 and #6 from the top. They’re different. Absolutely two different places in parking lot.

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    • chris p, on August 7, 2012 at 1:01 am said:

      I guess it’s supposed to be like 8 feet from the curb, but it looks like its way closer in that pic you’re talking about. It looked weird to me, but I don’t know if it was an optical illusion or what.

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      • chris p, on August 7, 2012 at 1:13 am said:

        Imagine a stick goes through the mask right through the canister part of the mask. The stick would be pointing at different points in each picture. Like every single one of the gas mask. Weird. They were moving that mask around like a bunch of tweakers.

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        • chris p, on August 7, 2012 at 1:14 am said:

          It does look like it’s moved around 10 or 20 feet in different pictures too.

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        • doppio22, on August 7, 2012 at 1:25 am said:

          If you go to that 3rd picture down again (the originally photo posted) it has to be the right side of the theater we are looking at (I believe that makes it the east side of the building). There is no way that’s the back parking lot. If that’s the case there is no way that mask is in front of a door, or even the building.

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          • sunshinez, on August 7, 2012 at 2:21 am said:

            What the hell is really going on in these pictures though? Is it normal for law enforcement to move stuff around like that? Doesn’t that compromise the investigation?

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  12. keno, on August 7, 2012 at 12:12 am said:

    well – we just have to wait and see how all this unfolds. Ever body is just jumpin to conclusions right now. that’s interesting about that gas mask being way down at the other end of the back parkin lot. looks so out of place. be interesting to see what comes of that.

    I noticed a pair of pink flip-flops at the exit. then I saw where two teenage girls got out through the back exit and one of them had been shot in the face. then some guy open the exit door from the adjacent theater to see what was going on and spotted them two girls and they went into that theater and Holmes, or some gunman, was coming after them and the guy shut the door.

    But Holmes told that officer that he was the only one, or he was alone, when there was all this confusion about how many suspects people saw. that was on the police communication.
    Whats gonna be interesting is the big Pharma industry and weapons industry. Probably moreso the big Pharma. Holmes was on psychotropics. I think that was the look of shock on his face to discover that this horrible tragedy occurred and he’s told he’s the one that did it. And he doesnt even remember. Wow! I believe he doesnt, I believe that was a real look on his face – no fakin it. Be interesting to see how big, or how out-of-the spotlightish, big Pharma lays in this case. theres lots of factors, but big Pharma I believe is the core of it.

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  13. Mew, on August 7, 2012 at 12:28 am said:

    Does anyone know who David Wilcock is? I have found his site and he says this.. ” I also found out, from insider contacts, that James Holmes was NOT supposed to have ended up in court, alive, pleading amnesia and looking totally disoriented.

    The Cabal is horrified by the fact that this was a “botched job”, and so many people are waking up to the idea of mind control that it is becoming widely known — and only hastening their downfall.

    There are plenty of movies that spell out how this is done — and the public is waking up to it much faster than they ever had expected”.

    Who is this guy and what does he know or don’t know?

    Also, why do I always get kicked off this site? It is getting distracting!

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  14. Saba, on August 7, 2012 at 6:51 am said:

    I did some investigating about the gas masks and put all the pictures up on the ‘spine board’ thread. There are definitely 2 gas masks labeled #1. I’ll repost it here :) What I’d loved to know is what are the specs on the two masks are and if they are standard issue? AND does anyone have a picture of the gas mask supposedly found to the left of Holmes’ car, we assume was stripped from Holmes? I’d love to see if it was switched…

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  15. Polaris, on August 7, 2012 at 7:24 pm said:

    This is interesting, although I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s related to the Aurora shooting: “2011 Mass Casualty Exercise at Community College of Aurora”:

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  16. sunshinez, on August 8, 2012 at 2:31 am said:

    Does anybody know whether or not inmates in solitary confinement are allowed to receive mail?

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    • K.W., on August 8, 2012 at 2:33 am said:

      No.

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    • K.W., on August 8, 2012 at 2:36 am said:

      And the employees read the mail anyways.

      This is not related: I was having a discussion with my family that we will have another man made tsunami in California and new York… And we just had a pretty strong quake in los Angeles. Btw, the guy who predicted Japan’s tsunami 100% accurately, predicted another one in the next week… There is approx 102 military tanks on the train via Burbank ca.

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      • sunshinez, on August 8, 2012 at 2:38 am said:

        So I wasn’t dreaming. I’m outside of LA and thought I had felt a little something just a while ago.

        How do you know about the military tanks?

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  17. Mew, on August 8, 2012 at 2:55 am said:

    yep it will fall into the ocean one day

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    • K.W., on August 8, 2012 at 3:16 am said:

      Good article. But I was laughing at the comments.

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      • Jessie, on August 8, 2012 at 12:33 pm said:

        Wow, I cannot believe they are still oblivious! LOL the comments are so ridiculous they had me laughing. Nobody who the shooter was, the person was wearing a gas mask, covered from head to toe and it was dark in the theatre plus the smoke bombs/gas bombs that went off which will make it hard for others to see.

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  19. Mew, on August 8, 2012 at 3:28 am said:

    I just read this too – did you see it on the FB page?

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    • Tina L., on August 8, 2012 at 11:42 am said:

      Pretty interesting about the fire. Quite a “coincidence”.

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      • Jessie, on August 8, 2012 at 1:02 pm said:

        especially about the person, witnesses said, that was running away with gas canisters O.O

        (Is this because the police are not releasing James Holmes, so the person of interest is harming more people?) Trying not to jump to conclusions here :T

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        • Tina L., on August 8, 2012 at 1:24 pm said:

          I was thinking, I read somewhere that initially the address given for Holmes on the police radio was different than his Paris St. address, and wasnt there accounts of someone who usually left in dress clothes going out in construction clothes. Maybe this apt. ties in somehow and the evidence had to be destroyed. Dunno.

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          • Jessie, on August 8, 2012 at 1:51 pm said:

            Yeah, I remember reading that as well, they said it was a woman. I was not sure if that person was leaving out of Holmes’ apartment or his friend’s, whom they later said is missing (not sure if it’s true or not). I’ll see if I can find a link somewhere….

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    • Brian, on August 8, 2012 at 2:48 pm said:

      Oh, and then there was this guy: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/07/the-aurora-shooting-you-didnt-hear-about-in-the-media/
      This, seems unrelated, but nevertheless somewhat bizarre, the guy just starts shooting at people coming out of a church? Or did he perhaps plan to enter the church – dunno – Is Aurora the size town, where things like this are to be expected on a monthly basis?

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  21. chris p, on August 8, 2012 at 2:41 pm said:

    The Great Gas Mask Switch at Aurora Crime Scene

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  22. chris p, on August 8, 2012 at 3:41 pm said:

    What about the BLOODY knife?

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  24. Jessie, on August 8, 2012 at 7:21 pm said:

    I know this may be off topic, but i found this link that talks about those wrongly convicted.

    http://www.nbc.com/law-and-order-special-victims-unit/photos/overturned-convictions/10515#item=237354

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  25. Mew, on August 9, 2012 at 6:15 am said:

    Hi again all. I was of the impression that JH lived in the same apartment the whole year in Aurora. Here is a video where the newsreader says that he only moved into the apartment 2 weeks before the massacre. Here is the link http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/james-holmes-charged-with-24-counts-of-murder-in-colorado-shootings-case-1.3869467.
    Can anybody shed light on this please? Thanks.

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    • sunshinez, on August 9, 2012 at 6:36 am said:

      That’s the first time I’m hearing this. I thought they said the same thing about the Sikh shooter…

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      • Mew, on August 9, 2012 at 7:35 am said:

        Yep I picked up on that too sunshinez. I am assuming that he lived there the whole year because the block of apartments were rented to students of the university only. But hey you should never assume, right?

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        • sunshinez, on August 9, 2012 at 7:54 am said:

          But if he only lived there for two weeks, how does it make sense that he had stuff shipped to that address before that? Or am I missing something?

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          • Jessie, on August 9, 2012 at 1:22 pm said:

            I’m just as confused as you are. This is my first time reading about this, I don’t know….maybe they got him confused with someone else. Or maybe they’re just trying to add his story to the shooter in WI??

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  26. Mew, on August 9, 2012 at 8:07 am said:

    It seemed to have uploaded the wrong link
    I will try again

    check out 1.17

    Good point sunshinez

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    • chris p, on August 9, 2012 at 9:54 am said:

      Good find….the reason they claimed he had 50 packages shipped to him in the last 6 months. I read somewhere, but have to find it, that they found that out because all the boxes were magically in the dumpster at the apartment.

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      • Aether, on August 12, 2012 at 5:35 am said:

        Okay so, a highly intelligent Neuroscience PhD student (I have a friend who is a Neuroscientist, studied at the same University as James, Riverside, the most intelligent and together person I have ever met in my life) is going to, after months of careful planning, just throw all the empty boxes in a dumpster right outside his apartment? Yeah…of course he is…

        They really do think we’re stupid don’t they…

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        • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 6:17 am said:

          Yes they do. Another question regarding the apartment. If it was boobie traped and tripped wired with explosive chemicals and this and that and so incredibly dangerous wouldn’t it be incredibly dangerous enter the apartment by smashing windows, fly screens and blinds into the said trapped potentially explosive apartment. Wouldn’t that just set everything off?

          Why didn’t they use some sophisticated glass removal technique to ensure the room was not disturbed?

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          • Aether, on August 12, 2012 at 6:56 am said:

            That’s an incredibly good point Mew. I don’t have the knowledge to say either way, someone does somewhere though I’m sure. I read your last sentence and I’m seriously just facepalming here, it’s almost insulting!

            I spoke to a friend of mine, ex military who swears blind there’s no way he could have set that up without blowing himself to pieces. It’s funny because she’s currently taking a break from conspiracies but I happened to link her a lot of info, including all this. She went from “Wait, Neuroscience? PhD? I’d think if someone were going to break it would have happened way before PhD level..” to what I stated above. I believe her last words on this were. “fishy” “okay, this smells” “no, it STINKS”

            She’s good to bounce ideas off of.

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          • yoused, on August 12, 2012 at 6:56 am said:

            That’s true, they are just hacking away at it like it’s nothing, doesn’t look like they were thinking “if the door was trip wired, maybe the windows are too”
            It’s also possible that they actually made sure it was safe by peeking in beforehand but who knows…
            It’s insane how EVERYTHING seems questionable at this point.

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          • sunshinez, on August 12, 2012 at 7:02 am said:

            The apartment was never rigged in the first place.

            Did you see the little controlled detonation they did? It was a little “boom” and that was that. Quite interesting if you think about how they said it was going to take “days” to get the apartment safe.

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          • yoused, on August 12, 2012 at 7:09 am said:

            I remember watching a video from a news channel (can’t remember which) where they said they found NOTHING in the apartment

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          • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 8:15 am said:

            Everything about this case does my head in, I tell you! lol

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          • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 8:21 am said:

            Yoused, is this it?

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          • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 8:23 am said:

            Sorry yoused, scrap that and try this

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          • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 8:23 am said:

            it keeps coming up with something else :/

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          • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 8:26 am said:

            yoused type in “Cops blew up the explosives they didn’t find in the apartment ” in YouTube. It should be there

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          • Mew, on August 12, 2012 at 8:30 am said:

            Sorry guys I do not know what is going on with those videos I supposedly posted. I have never watched them before. I was trying to post news report saying that the police never found any explosive material in JH’s apartment.

            Any chance of deleting willyloman????

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          • yoused, on August 12, 2012 at 8:36 am said:

            Don’t worry Mew, I looked it up and yes that’s the one I was talking about.

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          • Jessie, on August 12, 2012 at 2:46 pm said:

            They weren’t wearing protective clothing while they were supposedly detonating the explosives….

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  27. doppio22, on August 9, 2012 at 5:14 pm said:

    By any chance does someone have the total number of seats that are in theater 9?

    Also, found this last night – interestingly news blog states that at 9:05pm on SATURDAY night, the 21st, the police are still looking for second suspect. Uh…what? Am I reading this wrong?

    http://kwgn.com/2012/07/20/at-least-14-killed-dozens-injured-in-shooting-at-aurora-movie-theater/

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  28. doppio22, on August 9, 2012 at 5:50 pm said:

    True, Doug. The news states the police spoke with him Saturday night. Could be in reference to him – not sure of time frame when Yeom made phone call to the police.

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  29. doppio22, on August 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm said:

    Does anyone have a close up pic of the first gas mask (not the one with evidence marker #1 furthest away from Holmes’ car) with an evidence marker next to it?

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  30. Jessie, on August 12, 2012 at 3:40 pm said:

    Here’s a video (I do not remember if it was posted or not), but it’s about the person of interest, Yeom Pyo Lee.

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