New Neoliberal Marketing Slogan: ACA as “Bad Policy but Constitutional”

Why is Webster Tarpley Spouting Marketing Slogans and Tacitly Supporting the Privatization of Medicare?

by Scott Creighton

(Yes folks, the ACA has two pilot programs which set up the privatization of Medicare. Keep reading.)

We’re being sold a bill of goods. The opinion makers are busy pushing the limited hangout criticism of Obamacare as “bad policy” and they’re doing it for a reason.

Across the artificial ideological divide, the dissident left and right are now in complete harmony with each other claiming the Roberts court SCOTUS ruling on the so-called Affordable Care Act is legitimate, that congress does have the authority to force individuals to engage in commerce with a flawed and even criminal insurance industry on the sole basis that they are US citizens. The argument is that the Obamacare bill may in fact be “bad policy” but it is constitutional.

Once again, I am going to stay out here on the wildest fringes of political dissent and I am going to argue that not only is this conclusion wrong, but I intend to show that the entire “bad policy” meme is probably a marketing campaign bought and paid for by insurance and banking interests intent on disarming the only hope we have to overturn this precedent setting ruling.

The “Bad Policy’ Slogan

All across the political divide I keep seeing people referring to Obamacare now as “bad policy” as opposed to what it actually is… unconstitutional. It is unconstitutional… but more on that later.

Romney helped kick off the bad policy marketing campaign a few days ago…

“Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It’s bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today. Let me tell you why I say that. Obamacare raises taxes on the American people by approximately $500 billion. Obamacare cuts Medicare, cuts Medicare, by approximately $500 billion. And even with those cuts, and tax increases, Obamacare adds trillions to our deficits and to our national debt.” Mitt Romney

Here’s the RNC:

“ObamaCare was bad policy for America from the very beginning. This November, it will be bad politics for Democrats. Voters want real reform, and only Republicans are prepared to pursue it.” RNC

Here’s Richard Lorenc making use of the meme early on…

“Here, I will offer five reasons why the legislation being considered by the Supreme Court is bad public policy that makes problems with health care availability, cost, and accessibility worse, while also making private individuals’ health decisions a matter of majority rule.” Richard Lorenc

Fox News:

“We’ve heard the back and forth rhetoric of whether the Affordable Healthcare Act is a good or bad policy.” Fox News

For those thinking this marketing slogan is being used only by people on the so-called right, think again…

“It’s bad policy but constitutional” Webster Tarpley

More on Tarpley in a minute… so why create this marketing meme (think “support the troops”)? What good does it do for the powers that run this country?

The answer to that is very simple: you can’t challenge bad policy in the courts whereas you can challenge the constitutionality of illegal laws.

The only way to redress out of control government is through the court system. But if they convince the American people that this horrendous ruling is in line with congressional authority, then the mandate will never be challenged in the way it should. The illegality morphs into “bad policy” and the people are left accepting an unconstitutional mandate as legal.

That’s why you see someone like Romney pushing the slogan; he’s completely for the neoliberal agenda in America which means handing over control of the nation to the corporations and financial oligarchs who wrote the healthcare bill in the first place. They would LOVE to use this ruling as a precedent to mandate even more commerce from the people of America and they damn sure will.

So at least in the chat rooms and dissident websites, gone now is the idea that this mandate is an unconstitutional overreach of congressional authority even though this was clearly the opinion of the four dissenting Justices on the Supreme Court.

“The Court regards its strained statutory interpretation as judicial modesty. It is not. It amounts instead to a vast judicial overreaching,” wrote the four other conservatives. source

Webster Tarpley as Voice of the Dissident Left?

First of all, I have the greatest respect for Webster Tarpley’s work I just think he’s wrong on this point and wrong in such a striking way I have to wonder what is really behind it.

During Webster’s June 30th World Crisis Radio podcast, Webster reversed his former position that the individual mandate in the ACA was unconstitutional and he did so in such a dismissive and intellectually flawed way that I was left wondering what he was actually doing.

Not only does he constantly repeat the Mitt Romney “bad policy’ slogan, but he goes on to explain what I believe to be extremely flawed logic in the process which is something I don’t see Tarpley do very often. A quick example of that would be Tarpley constant labeling of Scalia as a fascist for opposing Obamacare when the law itself is clearly written by and for the insurance corporations. I don’t know what definition of fascism Tarpley is used too, but from what I know, Scalia’s objection to the favorable ruling is probably the least fascist thing he has done while on the bench.

First of all, Tarpley admits that he was of the impression very recently that the mandate was unconstitutional until, as he puts it, he read an article published in the New Republic written by a guy from Harvard.

The New Republic is currently owned by Chris Hughes, a billionaire Bilderberger venture capitalist co-founder of Facebook, from Harvard who ran an online marketing campaign for Obama in 2008. As we all know, Facebook was created by the NSA to serve as a surveillance and propaganda tool and now we have Hughes, a man who was tapped for success like Bill Gates, running the publication that Tarpley uses to justify the constitutionality of the ACA mandate. Hughes also ran a social networking site to link up people with different non-profit organizations. The group he started was called Juno which was then linked up with another organization of the same type called GOOD. Al Gore’s son runs that.

So why is Webster Tarpley using an article published by a pro-Obama venture capitalist Bilderberger’s publication to explain to us how “constitutional” the mandate is?

The New Republic has been supporting the “Syrian Revolution” since day one even going so far as to imply that Syria was trying to develop nuclear WMDs. They even called on Saudi Arabia to attack the “monsterous regime” in Syria and called them “unmanly” for not doing so already.

This article for instance claims we prevented a massacre in Libya and “saved the people of Bosnia” via our NATO bombings and posits the notion that we must do the same thing in Syria. For “democracy” of course.

How the fuck can Webster Tarpley cite anything written by these people as proof of the constitutionality of the individual mandate? Clearly they have an agenda. Tarpley misses all of that? I don’t think so.

Well, let’s look at his argument, the argument he got from the New Republic article to find out.

The Tarpley / New Republic / NSA Argument for the Individual Mandate

The jist of the Tarpley / New Republic argument for the constitutionality of the individual mandate comes from three laws cited by Tarpley in his radio address which supposedly proves not only the constitutionality of the mandate but also the fact that the “original intent” of the founders of the nation supported mandates as tax.

I will list the three and a summary of what Tarpley says about them:

  1. 1790 – Individual mandate that ship owners had to buy insurance for sailors. 20 framers of the constitution were members of congress at that time. George Washington signed the law.
  2. 1792 – Able bodied males must procure weapons. 17 framers of constitution were members of congress 14 voted for it. George Washington signed into law.
  3. 1798 – If you are a sailor you must buy insurance.

From this “evidence’ according to Tarpley, he resigned his opposition to the unconstitutionality of the individual mandate and claims that it’s a “reactionary myth”  to state there is no basis for it.

Quite remarkable for someone as educated as Tarpley to miss the mark on this so completely.

First of all, these are LAWS that were passed and signed into law. That does NOT mean the mandate or the laws themselves are constitutional or not. The one thing does not prove the other.

Take for instance the passage and signing into law of the NDAA 2012 and that little provision that supposedly gives the president of the United States the ability to use the military to arrest and detain indefinitely US citizens on US soil. True, it was passed by congress and signed into law by the President, but does that make it constitutional? Of course not. Tarpley understands this.

Second, who cares how many “framers” of the constitution were in congress when these laws were passed? At best he mentions 20 members were in congress for one of the laws (1790) but fails to mention there were 56 members of the first continental congress and 50 or so of the second. The 20 mentioned by Tarpley certainly doesn’t represent a majority and the 14 he claimed voted for the 1792 bill is way fewer than a majority. We don’t know how the rest felt about the law and to claim that the “original intent” supports the mandate based on these facts is ludicrous.

But let’s talk about the “original intent” issue a bit more.

There are MANY things that are constitutional or not constitutional now that were CLEARLY different from the original intent of the founding fathers thus “original intent” does NOTHING to prove anyone’s point on this. Slavery was ok as per the original intent of the founding fathers as was keeping women from voting.

The laws Tarpley / New Republic cites also do not show support for an individual mandate.

The 1790 law provides that ship owners had to buy insurance for their sailors. That’s not an “individual mandate” for every citizen. That’s a law much like a law that says mining company owners can’t use children as laborers in their mines or plantation owners can’t use slaves.

Notice it’s not a “tax”

The 1798 law then shifted the cost of the insurance onto the backs of the workers I wonder who wrote that little fix. Again though, this is simply something aligned to the people who chose to work in that dangerous profession much like people who chose to drive a car these days.

Again.. not a “tax” levied at every citizen by circumstances of being born in America.

The last one, the one where Tarpley later mistakenly claims that able bodied men were forced to “buy’ a gun, actually stated they had to “procure” one. Which meant they could get one from a friend or steal one or whatever. Nothing stated they had to buy one from one of a few gunsmiths in the country.

A far cry from what we are looking at here.

Point is, these cases do not rise to the level of  president setting cases for the constitutionality of the individual mandate. Not even close.

And that is to say nothing of the question of whether or not they were ever challenged and overturned later.

In the end Tarpley has to say that for him the decision to accept the constitutionality of the mandate is based on the current law stating that if you are brought into a hospital suffering from an immediately life threatening emergency, they have to treat you for free regardless of your ability to pay.

Though that isn’t exactly true anymore (it used to be but now they can and do reject some people… look it up) it’s not a valid comparison.

They don’t treat you for free. When I had my first P.E. I stayed in the hospital for 7 days. My bill which I am still paying on, was 26,000.

But here Tarpley is making a false comparison. Mandating hospitals treat dying or injured people isn’t equivalent to forcing those same people to pay into an insurance policy that they may NEVER need.

Tarpley later goes on to claim that the ACA is certainly not what he would set up (he supports Medicare for all) but given the world we live in, it’s a better start than nothing. I don’t agree.

In order to make that conclusion Tarpley cites the typical Obamacare cliched apologist quotes about SCHIP and about the increase in Medicaid availability and so on.

He doesn’t mention the fact that the Supreme Court also rejected the ACA clause which forced states to up their Medicaid enrollment eligibility to 138% of the federal poverty level. In fact, Florida (my home state) is already announcing they will not up the eligibility level, thus vast numbers of the people the ACA is supposed to help will not receive that Medicaid assistance thus being forced to buy insurance.

The SCHIP part of the Obamacare act was scrubbed by the Obama administration months ago.

Obama has issued some 2,000 waivers for giant corporations exempting them from having to purchase insurance for their employees.

Rick Scott in Florida is already saying they won’t set up the insurance exchanges which would have allowed for people to ban together and shop for the best prices. This will also help the insurance companies and hurt the people.

And of course, the ACA itself undermines Medicare to the tune of 500 million or so.

The fact is, these companies wrote the Affordable Care Act and they promoted it. To think that somehow it’s going to get better for us in the next year and a half is the worse kind of pipe dream. It’s not going to get better. They are going to remove anything halfway decent about it and keep the worse aspects through attrition. We have already seen that happening and it will continue. No question.

Affordable Care Medicare Privatization Experiment

This is the most under-reported aspect of the ACA: they are trying an “experiment” to privatize Medicare.

Notice the fact that Tarpley fails to mention the purely neoliberal (fascist) ACA “experiments” aimed at the complete privatization of Medicare.

The plans are under the ACA Accountable Care Organization pilot programs the “Pioneer” and “Shared Savings” programs. Under these programs “large blocks” of Medicare enrollees will be handed over to various for-profit companies who will manage their healthcare for a lump sum per person. If the company has to spend more on the healthcare of the person, then they pay the difference… if they pay less, then they keep the difference.

“The ACA’s central effort to keep these costs down is to fund several experiments. Most prominently, two Accountable Care Organization pilots — the “Pioneer” and “Shared Savings” programs — allow private insurers to contract with Medicare to take a fixed budget and take full responsibility for a large block of patients. If the patients’ care costs more, the insurers eat the cost; if the care costs less, the insurers keep the difference. It’s a noble idea, but what if it doesn’t work?” Tampa Bay Times

Let me make that clearer: Medicare money will be handed over to big insurance companies who will then profit from denying care to people.

How does Tarpley miss this one? This effectively starts the process of privatizing his “Medicare for all” system. Yet he claims there are good things in the ACA law that are worth supporting?

Conclusion

As far as I can tell, the “three legged stool” is missing two of the legs. The ones about keeping insurance companies honest and the Medicare/Medicaid legs are on their way out. Incrementalism folks. That’s how they do it.

But that one leg, the one claiming you have to buy insurance from one of the corrupt insurance companies, well that one is just fine and dandy and looking to expand even further into the Medicare business.

The insurance companies have won a major victory here. Their stocks took off the day after the bill was passed in congress and then again the day of the Supreme Court decision but not so much because even though Tarpley claims no one saw this coming, I think a lot of people did. I did. So did Wall Street.

I hate to say it, but I feel Webster may have sold us out a little on this one. There is no way he just started citing the billionaire Bilderberger’s propaganda rag as a solid resource for the fun of it. And the cases he and they cite don’t amount to the level of proof needed for something as large as justifying an individual mandate to pay “taxes” to a privately held corporation especially when they themselves are responsible for creating the horrendous state our healthcare system is in.

Again, I  support Webster’s immensely important work on Syria and Libya and NATO. After the vicious demolition of Libya, very few are still out there reporting facts about what is happening in Syria. Webster has a sound understanding of what is going on in the world today and is courageously telling it like it is.

This of course makes it all the more disappointing when he starts sounding off with what appear to be obvious marketing slogans about the opposition to the Affordable Care Act.

The ACA sounds the death knell for single payer advocates whether they know it or not and people like Tarpley are helping take the last best hope we have of stopping it.

William Blum puts it this way:

“The Affordable Care Act will undoubtedly serve as a disincentive to the movement for single-payer national health insurance, setting the movement back for years. The Affordable Care Act was undoubtedly designed for that purpose.” William Blum

30 Responses

  1. This is such an important and well written article , Scott…..!!

    People must remember that corporations only do business with a ‘profit’ in mind…… they are not looking out for your health… once they get the upper hand on medicare and America’s health care…. they will start improving their profit margin by increasing your co-pay and limiting your coverage… and setting certain resrictions of numbers of doctor or hospital visits… and by restricting your choice of medicines….. they will be in the medicine industry also and you will be forced to buy their generic brands with large co-pays…

    And even in 1976.. hospitals did not treat you for free… I had emergency surgery then, and paid my bill for ten years until it was finished……

    • Hey, Jan -

      Last December was the first time I’d been in a hospital in many years. Out the window, saw lots of people coming to the doors in taxi cabs–old people, like me. When I got out, I volunteered to drive people to Doctor appointments. (There’s an agency works through the Community College arranges that. Somehow, I lucked out and found it.)

      I take them anywhere within a hundred miles away. Hard to believe some of their stories, what they have to go through to get care–what they have to give up, have to sell, to lose …

      Wasn’t always that way with them, they tell me, but now, every one of them is a big fan of ‘Socialized Medicine’.

      r

      • Hi Roy, when we are older (and I am also), our medical needs increase….(if you can afford the co-payments) and we then qualify for medicare… remember back a little over a year ago when there was some talk about the elderly should be the responsibility of their children? (I think that was Obama and his adm.)… if they get away with selling medicare to corporate power, then the next step is to greatly reduce the elderly medical resources from ‘medicare’….. backing up the elderly into the care of their families and then… there is the introduction of the elderly choosing to accept the ‘end’ it all with a painless ‘sleep’ which would take burdens off their families. Just suppose that the big plan is for the retirement of the masses would be ‘choosing ‘ their end (that’s been discussed also) in order to cause less burdens on the people and that would greatly increase the profit margin of insurance corporations.
        of course, the rich will not have to make that decision…

        • Yeh, anything other than Socialized Medicine is going to cost everybody who needs it more than they can afford. Like, that cost might even include some poor somebody going over the edge, paying it with gunfire.

          Hell of it is, those behind the ‘big plan’ would be safe at home, counting their money.

          r

    • Huffington claimed to be a news source, and they also act as if Obama wars don’t exist. They co-opt the left everyday by censoring the news with tabloid bickering and gunk. It was sold to AOL for the very reason that it was too popular the Progressive voice got too loud and corporatists were terrified andwanted to co-opt it with tabloid garbage and wedge issues, keep the people divided?

      What if the Ron Paul and Kucinich followers united and put the KIBOSH on the DLC Democrap Corp. Big Oil/Banking Oligarchs?

      A serious threat indeed.

      But dopes like Bill Maher will divide people along racial and religious lines for CIA front, war propagandist TimeWarner or like Mike Malloy. Malloys new indoctrination is lets slam organized religion and TV preachers all day, everyday. The anti-religion religion. Preaching to a choir that doesn’t exist. It plays into the hands of the powers that be, and was always designed to do so. Get people to hate other members of the same class, whether Arab or Catholic.

      • Ask yourself this question – “Who benefits from racial and religious, divide and conquer” tactics?

        (i.e. – Bill Mahers religious anti-muslim crap, WRC mosque hatred, or
        others antiMexican crap)

        I’m sure the answer you find is the Elites who manage the corrupt 2 Party System, benefit most.

  2. More sellouts by the day…

    I wonder how many truth tellers will be left by the end of this year alone…

    • Speaking of sellouts, heres a totally cringe worthy video of professional shill Jon Gold questioning sell out coward Chris Hedges about 9/11:

  3. I wouldn’t call him a sellout…just because we may disagree, it doesn’t make anyone a sellout. I can only speculate on what Tarpley’s thought process is, and since I don’t know, I won’t try to. What I do know is that his work has been extremely reliable and credible, so I’d be careful about dismissing someone outright or claiming them to be discredited based on a disagreement.

    I wonder if Scott posed these questions to him, whether he’d address them in his radio show. Tarpley has said before that they should just change the law so that it becomes Medicare for all. Regardless of whether the law is kept, or struck down, we don’t have a choice between a Utopia and total disenfranchisement. Either way, I don’t think people will be getting what this law is being advertised as.

    • I would to hear Webster’s responce to this. As I said, I give the man a great deal of credit for his work on various subjects and he earned the benefit of the doubt. But this particular issue has exposed at least one of our champions in the past leaving his reputation tarnished as well ( Kucinich) so I will have to wait and see. There is virtually endless money at stake here when you consider this model either failing outright or growing to the European nations across the pond. Also, the precedent of the mandate is tremendously important to them for other applications so I imagine they would spare no expense on securing this victory. However you look at it Webster has a lot of explaining to do.

  4. Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. WEBSTER TARP IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED. A former agitator for the Lyndon LaRoue clan which engaged in Nazi Disruption/Provocatuer
    tactics. Dont give a crap how good his writing is, if Alex Jones is your primary platform for expression, you have PROBLEMS.

    Provacatuers are there to say YOUR BEING LED BY THE NOSE, YOUR DUMB, BE MY DISCIPLE, a true demogogue, indeed. Then,
    after demoralizing Liberals, OWS, whatever another indoctrination
    into his new phony religion for his new sheep.

    No second thoughts, can this Turkey

    • Stefan — Go Back To Your Corporate Workstation. You Fucking Fraud Here To Drive Us Apart.

      Who Stays Up After Midnight To Tar Tarpley With LaRouch?

      Just because Tarpley utilized LaRouche’s “Radio Service” and (PERHAPS to some extent) his U.S. Labor Party to run for U.S. Senator in New York (as a Democrat, actually), does not mean he is in bed with LaRouche. Just because he has been on the air with Alex Jones, and also Russia Today does not mean he agrees with Alex Jones and Vladimir Putin. There are only so many venues. One of the favorite tactics used to besmirch formidable progressives has always been guilt by association (particularly with LaRouche). “[He] Is probably not above murder” — Lol — Better keep that night lite on! Tarpley is solidly in the progressive camp.

      He certainly is a protectionist, as am I. What is progressive about the “free trade” that sends all our jobs to places like China, etc. (or Myanmar where they use slave labor)? Notice how hard it is to find a “job” these days? But some of us seem to be above caring about such petty concerns.

    • So? We all saw that before, of course. Putting that up doesn’t make you one bit less fake.

    • that is depressing….. in 9 years, so much has changed…. why didn’t he run for president this year?
      and why doesn’t Sen. Sanders run for president?
      If they believe in what they say, then they are bound to know we need a real president that speaks for the Constitution and American’s rights and jobs and peace

  6. Tarpley calls Ron Paul on flim flam, while Jones defends

    Conservative a false term to begin with. Just say Republican. Most conservatives are hardcore Republican voters. Plus, they are not really fiscally conservative in the first place!Name one Republican talk host who opposed the Iraq war!

    The reason you are disappointed Fiddy is because you have noticed what we liberals found out 20 years ago hearing Rush and am radio, that they are establishment shills and mouthpieces dispensing dogma not worthy of attention, like the money grubbing TV preachers.Webster Tarpley of Prison Planet called OWS dummies, useful idiots on the radio Sunday.That is the very defintion of co-opting. Tell people they are powerless and weak. Tell them their petitions don’t matter. Tell them their protests are pointless. Mike Malloy did the exact same thing on his show. Tell me what are Prison Planet readers w/ their stories : Breibart was murdered,9/11 planes had pods (bombs) on them, birther nonsense, saying Katrina levees were blown up by Uncle Sam , and a hundred other fake 9/11 Truth hoaxes disproven by real 9/11 Truth activists over the years…?

    Another example of demagogery is the fake astrotruf Libertarian crap with Adam Kokesh on RT, Big Brothers pre-packaged dissent channel as bad and shallow as Amy Goodman. Oh get that critical soundbite of dissent on the 2 minutes they spend on foreign policy each hour. Oh – really in depth. Talk about a lack of content. The rest is so hum drum. Like talk radio words you never hear are INTERNATIONAL LAW AND CIVILLIAN CASUALTIES, and Obama/Hillary in the same sentence.

    • I’ve noticed that Tarpley seems to be pushing his books harder than ever. In one of his radio shows he actually started off by telling listeners that he basically wouldn’t reply to email questions unless they had bought and read his book on the topic and he made sure to explain he had a book for every topic.

      Then later in the same show he talked about “his” solution, “his” plan, “his” ideas being what needed to be followed.

      all of that kind of stuck out.

      Yeah, he is truthful about Ron and especially “Little Rand” but that’s nothing that most dissidents have known for a while now. And he is right about libertarianism being “ideological poison” but again, even I have written about that several times and of course, there are other, more eloquent writers than myself who have been pointing that out steadily for years.

      This past week he continued to push the idea that those who wished to trash the entire Affordable Care Act were doing so for “fascist” reasons, but in reality, the bill itself is almost pure fascism and what little good it might have done is steadily being eroded as we speak. He doesn’t talk much about that except to say “go outside a death panel (insurance company) and protest” when you are not going to get what you or a loved one needs.

      Now how the fuck is that supposed to help?

      And lets not forget what I CLEARLY showed as to the source of his reasoning for switching his position…

      But, let’s also be fair in this… Kucinich (and yes I watched the video) ALSO switched his position on the healthcare bill if you recall.

      So, in the end, I think Tarpley is at least suspect on this one. though I hate to admit it.

      • Well as far as I know Tarpley was one of the first and most vocal critics of Austrianism, his interviews at during Bilderberg really stirred people up. I hope you read my comment below carefully and have a good think about his opposition to Obamacare being declared unconstitutional. Just because it was an article in a disreputable outlet that brought up arguments he could use to his attention doesn’t mean he should be tarred with the same brush as the outlet.

        In response to Stefan above complaining about Tarpley attacking OWS, he is not doing so to demolalise them he’s doing it in an attempt to push them into useful action and persuade them to dump David Graber and the facilitators stuff that is paralising them and turning them into a laughing stock.

        • The outlet he chose to reference is beyond “disreputable” it’s a shill rag run by a died in the wool neoliberal Obama apologist. Tarpley as the noted historian and scholar must understand the weighty importance of the references he sources. Aside from that, the article is wrong in terms of it’s interpretation of the cited examples which by the way no one argues

  7. I was disappointed Paul endorsed Romney when he bowed out of the race. How can someone speaking out against the military industrial complex, do that?

    Does that mean Paul was stage playing the whole time …?

    I think the next candidate must go farther than reduce the Pentagon by half but also prmonise to shut down the CIA. The criminal CIA represents a government within a government and usurps power from the lawmakers and hijacks the press/ silences dissent/ and disrupts legal demonstrations, in short the whole process.

  8. You seem to have missed the crux of the matter here. Tarpley makes the reasons for his change of stance quite clear in his radio broadcast. He has spotted that Scalia and others are attacking Obamacare as unconstitutional for a reason and that reason is not because they are against the American people getting ripped off by insurance companies, instead they are doing so in order to attack medicare/ medicaid ect as a whole. If they can declare Obamacare as unconstitutional then they can go one step further and declare the whole kit and kaboodle unconstitutional. Tarpley has realised this plan and decided to bail from the “Obamacare is unconstitutional” crowd. As he points out he is still against Obamacare but he feels that the constitution argument is leading down a dark path.

    The rapidity of his change of stance is pretty shocking but people must understand that Tarpley is at heart a political activist, the facts must be made to fit with the political agenda, whether Obamcare is unconstitutional or not is pretty much irrelevent in the eyes of Tarpley, what matters is the wellbeing of the American people and I agree with him.

    • Not only does he “bail” from those questioning the constitutionality of the mandate, he belittles them, derides them, says their in bed with fascists. He employees the same troll tactics used by neocons when trying to silence those of us opposed to the invasion of Iraq back in 2002.

      As for your new argument, that he supports the mandated purchase of insurance from private companies to save Medicare and Medicaid… are you serious? Where did that talking point come from? They are already looking for the next business friendly mandate to hit us with while they are busy cutting anything good out of the ACA… just like we knew they would.

      • I agree that he should hold back on the rhetoric against people who still want to strike down obamacare as unconstitutional. But that’s what he’s good at so I just overlook it personally.

        I’m not saying he supports Obamacare, neither is he. He clearly says on World Crisis Radio that he suspects Scalia and the rest of the “RATS cabal” of being part of a conspiracy to declare ALL government sanctioned healthcare unconstitutional. Obamacare would just be the first step. Whether he’s correct on this or not is a matter for debate, but this is the reasoning he gives and I think it ought to be mentioned in your article.

        • No. The reasoning he gives is the article from the New Republic. I referenced that, and I linked to it. His reasoning is unsound… period. His logic is flawed and for someone like Tarpley, that is an important aspect of his argument.

          Like I said before, I still support the work he is doing on Syria and his exposure of the truth of what happened in Libya. I also (obviously) support what he says about RP and the libertarians. He’s got a lot going for him. I am just extremely disappointed in this recent turn of his and I can’t help but see it as something similar to what Kucinich did to us a year ago…

          • He only uses that article to soothe the people obsessed with the constitution. Tarpley doesn’t care whether obamacare is constitutional or not but he knows some people do care.

            You’re missing his logic. He is no longer saying obamacare is unconstitutional because he’s worried that Scalia and Co will succeed in striking it down then go further and declare medicare and medicaid unconstitutional also.

            This is the essence of what he is saying, the rest is just fluff. If you see some holes in this then go ahead and pick at them.

  9. Fake petition pushed by Webster Tarpley warned of Iran false flag
    and used forged Cindy Sheehan signature …

    http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/08/kennebunkport-warning-hoax-controversy.html

    http://www.oilempire.us/larouche.html

    • Arabesque his mate J Sparky are wankers. They loved being a divisive force within 9/11 truth. The Kennebunkport warning was a good thing, it came out afterwards that some airforce people involved had refused to go along with the devious plan, they ended up dead within a few years. Cindy Sheehan as nice as she may be doesn’t know shit. She signed it then she changed her mind and denied it, simple as.

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