George Bush is Not a War Criminal in Jon Stewart’s World?

by Scott Creighton

Jon Stewart is still trying to run damage control over the “Million Moderate March” but it seems, like Rand Paul, when confronted with the opportunity to speak off the cuff, it would probably be better if he had just kept his mouth shut.

“You’ve said, ‘Bush is war criminal.’ Now that may be technically true. In my world ‘war criminal’ is Pol Pot or the Nuremberg trials,” Stewart replied.

“I think that’s such an incendiary charge that when you put it into a conversation: ‘Well technically he is.’ Well that may be right but it feels like a conversation stopper, not a conversation starter.”  Jon Stewart

Though “technically true”, Jon Stewart seems to think in terms of “the conversation” we are better off not calling George W. Bush a war criminal.

I’m not exactly sure what conversation is worth having if we can’t even address obvious points of fact like this one. Some conversations just aren’t worth having, if you ask me.

Personally, I have to agree with Mr. Greenwald in that certain actions merit extreme condemnation (like impeachment and imprisonment) and to that list I would like to toss out 1. lying 935 times to justify an illegal war which has killed over a million Iraqi people and dislocated about 4 million others, 2. creating false documents (Niger Yellow Cake) like the neocons at the Office of Special Plans did to justify an illegal war, 3. torture, 4. rendition, 5. secret prisons, 6. CIA backed mercenary death squads 7. depleted uranium spread across Iraq …  I mean, if these actions don’t merit calling George W. Bush (and several of Jon Stewart’s recent guests) a war criminal, what does? American Everyman

Yes, George W. Bush is a war criminal. Technically, morally, spiritually, figuratively, actually a war criminal.  There is no other conversation to have on the subject.

But the most interesting comment Stewart made is not getting a whole lot of public attention and I guess that’s because they are doing their best to re-brand their over-priced Stewart Puppet after the fiasco march exposed him as a servant of the status quo.

“You’ve said, ‘Bush is war criminal.’ Now that may be technically true. In my world ‘war criminal’ is Pol Pot or the Nuremberg trials,” Jon Stewart

This is exactly the problem. You see, in the narrow world of acceptable discourse here in America, there is always a difference between “their” war crimes and ours. Though “technically” they may qualify as such, the intent of war crimes perpetrated by our leaders is always looked at in hindsight as being benign or even altruistic in nature and therefore not of the same criminal intent of someone like Pol Pot or Hitler.

Of course, who really cares what Jon Stewart considers a war-criminal today because like he showed us on April 29 2009, his opinion is subject to change in a matter of hours depending on how many conversations he has with the guy who signs his paychecks.

In April 2009 during a chat with Cliff Mays, Jon Stewart said clearly that he thought Truman committed a war crime when he authorized the dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan.  Turns out Robert McNamara claimed he and Curtis LeMay thought it was a war crime and that had the U.S. lost, they would both have been tried as war criminals (“Fog of War”). Of course the firebombing of Japan’s wooden cities was yet another war crime, but who’s counting?

But immediately, Jon Stewart came out the next day and claimed his own opinion, spoken from the heart the day before, was “stupid” and that anyone holding that belief was “stupid”.

He was praised by people like Bill O’Reilly for “fixing” his opinion, and the debate was silenced. You see, “serious” people don’t hold opinions like those as the Weekly Standard tells us.

Serious people have debated Truman’s decision for 60 years, but even those who disagree with that decision rarely describe it as “criminal.” Weekly Standard

O’Reilly went on to say that the Japanese didn’t surrender after we dropped the first bomb so therefore Truman had to drop the second one. And that’s all the “facts’ that “serious people” need to know according to Bill O’Reilly and apparently Jon Stewart as well.

But of course, getting to the truth is a little more complicated than simply finding something that Jon Stewart and Bill O’Reilly agree on. The following is taken from William Blum’s article “Hiroshima Needless slaughter, Useful Terror

`By 1945, Japan’s entire military and industrial machine was
grinding to a halt as the resources needed to wage war were all but eradicated. The navy and air force had been destroyed ship by ship, plane by plane, with no possibility of replacement. When, in the spring of 1945, the island nation’s lifeline to oil was severed, the war was over except for the fighting. By June, Gen. Curtis LeMay, in
charge of the air attacks, was complaining that after months of terrible firebombing, there was nothing left of Japanese cities for his bombers but “garbage can targets”. By July, U.S. planes could fly over Japan without resistance and bomb as much and as long as they pleased. Japan could no longer defend itself.[6]‘

… `Japan was militarily defeated long before Hiroshima. It had been trying for months, if not for years, to surrender; and the U.S. had consistently rebuffed these overtures.

… “In his later memoirs, Stimson (US secretary of war) admitted that “no effort was made, and none was seriously considered, to achieve surrender merely in order not to have to use the bomb“. [11]

6. “Thus, it was with full knowledge that Japan was frantically trying to end the war, that President Truman and his hardline secretary of state, James Byrnes, included the term “unconditional surrender” in the July 26 Potsdam Declaration. This “final warning” and expression of surrender terms to Japan was in any case a charade. The day before it was issued, Harry Truman had approved the order to release a 15 kiloton atomic bomb over the city of Hiroshima. [15]”

7. “Finally, we have Gen. Dwight Eisenhower’s account of a conversation with Stimson in which he told the secretary of war that:

Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary. … I thought our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It
was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of “face”. The secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude, almost angrily refuting the reasons I gave for my quick conclusions. [17] ”

Serious people in Jon Stewart’s world don’t see George W. Bush and Truman in the same classification as Pol Pot or Hitler. Or at least, they obviously do see them in that classification, as was made painfully clear in April of 2009, but they don’t SAY they do in public venues, else they have to perform an act of contrition.

There is always a difference between the war-crimes “they” commit and the war-crimes “we” commit and don’t you forget it. It’s only a matter of time before Jon Stewart has George W. Bush on his show to help him sell his new book like all the other neocons Jon has had on.

Hell, if Bill Clinton endorsed the book, why not have Dubaya on, right?

“George W. Bush also gives readers a good sense of what it’s like to be president, to take the responsibilities of the office seriously, do what you think is right, and let history be the judge.”  Bill Clinton

The history according to “serious people” that is. No “stupid” opinions need apply.

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29 Responses

  1. There’s no such thing as sayanim.
    There’s no such thing as sayanim.
    There’s no such thing as sayanim.

  2. jon stewart – nwo influential puppet: don’t watch
    tsa – sexual deviants and child molesters: don’t fly
    banks – plan to take all money and your home: don’t bank
    government – manned by sociopaths: don’t pay taxes
    israel – manned by sociopaths: boycott
    corporations – manned by sociopaths: don’t give them money
    barry s. – illegal foreign-born, narcissistic, warmongering white house occupant. also a war criminal. protects other war criminals so they CAN’T be prosecuted. used by the top-of-the-food-chainers as a pseudo-humorous symbol of global dictatorship and united nations land take-over as he is the first black and illegal alien ‘potus': impeach and prosecute

    keep naming names, exposing disinfo, indoctrination, and crimes in no uncertain terms and without cease. we will probably have a little down time while the country is being dismantled. might as well use it productively.

    what the heck.

  3. His, ‘opinion’ is based on fact or evidence, so is not an opinion, it is a mathmatical series of events which led up to his, ‘Equasion’, which should be written as, ‘his view or understanding of the fact’ .
    ‘And if one wishes to assume the word opinion, then the word, is of two meanings, which is of, belief, or evidentual set of facts.
    so no change there then, :0

  4. In my world Jon Stewart is an asshole.

  5. John Stewart is no George Carlin. Carlin, while admitting he was a comedian, gave his audience profound insights into the machinations of our government, as did Lenny Bruce who “died from an overdose of police.”

    Stewart is a Zionist clown who answers to his corporate master’s string pulling to work as a gatekeeper and shill.

  6. War criminals free in the US, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
    They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
    They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
    Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress, except Ron Paul.
    (Last link of Banned Book):

    http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526

  7. The US government considered water boarding bad enough that they EXECUTED Japanese soldiers for water boarding people after WW2….but I guess that its double plus good today.

    600,000 people were burned at the stake for allegedly being witches in Europe several hundred years ago. They ALL confessed. Torture is VERY persuasive. If you water boarded Bush enough..he would confess to killing Kennedy, Christ, John Lennon, Lincoln, Joan Bennet Ramsey..etc etc etc.

  8. So Bill Clinton stated
    “… do what you think is right, and let history be the judge.“

    Sounds like something GWB’s grandfather would have said: “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” Aleister Crowley.

  9. dude –

    it’s worth a try.

  10. why do people even watch this zionist idiot anyway, Jon Stewart is a as*hole zionist PR*CK

  11. Glad to see Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz taking flak. Yes, he’s a lying, gatekeeping tool. Found him amusing years ago, but his programmed inability to address larger truths is offensive and very un-funny.

    That fact that he was used to try to deflate growing anger with his DC gathering is a good sign. It has tarnished him further and he will find it harder and harder to be a “funny man.” Like the piece of shit Bill Maher and his violent antics with the audience over WTC7.

    Hope people have listened to Benjamin Freedman’s patriotic 1961 speech which details the control of the US as far back as 1916. William Dudley Pelley’s Dupes of Judah provides additional detail. Douglas Reed’s The Controversy of Zion is essential. See http://www.iamthewitness.com for the books.

  12. Stewart pulled a Fatty Arbuckle. Now he isn’t funny anymore. Boycott his sponsors.

  13. “Boycott his sponsors.”

    now that’s the first time I heard that suggestion, and I like it.

  14. That’s extremely dismissive. Chomsky doesn’t lie nor does Finkelstein or Klein, as far as I know. Nor do these young Jewish people for that matter.

    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/young-jews-disrupt-netanyahu-at-jewish-general-assembly/

    Bush, Cheney, Rice, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi… as far as I know, none of them are Jewish… so what is the connection?

    The creed, Vox, goes well beyond religion. It’s mammon, and it is the new orthadoxy.

  15. Poor Jon Stewart out of super-suburbanite Longuylant. I wonder what his real name is. Although ol’ Jon is smarter than most people, he only allows himself to criticize those who pay his paycheck allow him to criticize. He’s a hack, is all – an intelligent hack. He’s way smarter than the alcoholic-acting clown O’Reiley, but still just a clown. A clown is one who amuses the folk to keep their attn away from their true enemy (the elite).

  16. Good work here.

  17. Jon “Stewart” Liebowitz performs the same function as O’Reilly just in a different package. They cater to different audiences, but both are in place to make sure that no one ever focuses attention on the real problem: who owns the Federal Reserve.

    Any investigation of 9/11 reveals enormous Israeli complicity. Same investigation forces one to ask how could “our” free press be so derelict in their duties. When these questions are asked the answers are surprisingly easy to find.

    Why did so many great men throughout history say such harsh and remarkably similar things about the Jews? For example:

    VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher, writer:

    “Why are the Jews hated? It is the inevitable result of their laws; they either have to conquer everybody or be hated by the whole human race…”

    “The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious, always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous – cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity.” (Essai sur le Moeurs)

    “You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny.” (From a letter to a Jew who had written to him, complaining of his ‘anti-Semitism.’ Examen des Quelques Objections…dans L’Essai sur le Moeurs.)

    “You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people, who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all peoples which tolerate and enrich them.” (“Juif,” Dictionnaire Philosophique)

    “I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These marranos go wherever there is money to be made…But whether these circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are, simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the earth.” (Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December 15, 1773. Correspondance. 86:166)

    “The customs of the Jews are base and abominable and owe their persistence to their depravity. Jews are extremely loyal to one another, always ready to show compassion, but towards every other people they feel only hate and enimity. As a race (the Jews are not a race, because they have mingled with the other races to the point that they are only a people, not a race), they are prone to lust; among themselves nothing is unlawful.” (Roman Historian Tacitus).

    AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his”On the Governance of the Jews,” he wrote:

    “The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to worked so that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but becoming avaricious.”

    CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, hewrote a long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia.After praising what he called the “national Jews” of Russia, hesaid:

    “In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.

  18. I notice Scott Creighton had to include a smartass swipe at Rand Paul in this farce of an article.

  19. Has Stewart really done anything to change things? Has his comedic routines encouraged the public to go out and demand answers, or simply made war crimes easier to laugh about?

    America, arrest Bush , and Cheney and Chertoff.
    They are not gods, they aren’t even really men.
    Arrest them. Tell Stewart it isn’t working and save your country. America deserves a place of honor again in this world and you will be if you have what it takes to face the facts.
    They are robbing you stupid, and you have come to far in the earth’s history to let old wimpy men steal it all.

    You have the power to change everything.

  20. I stopped watching this Comedy Channel slur.

  21. He’s jumped the shark. He is intelligent and hosted an interesting show with intelligent interviews, for the most part. I applauded the statements he made to Tucker Carlson regarding hysteria of the media. But there is a blind/ed side to him. He gave courteous interviews to GOP politicians with a lot to answer for (like Condi and Santorum) to show how reasonable he is, and yet brings his talent for humiliation via humor to batter Dems, to show how reasonable he is. Dems infuriate me too, but why be “fair” in beating them up on camera, while being sweet to Republicans to show how “fair” he is? It’s bullshit, and I’ve had enough. He’s also clearly PEP – Progressive Except for Palestine, and doesn’t allow criticism against Israel on his show, and was one of the creeps who jumped Helen Thomas in a cruel, unfair way, because – it appears to me – he is so convinced of his infallibility that he does not contemplate his opinions regarding Zionism, which he takes as an attack on all Jews, which is simply a farce. I agree there are way too many crazy people in gov these days, but the March For “Reason” was meaningless. He’s put himself into the same position as Limbaugh, which is to have strong, controversial opinions, but when he is actually CALLED on them, he calls himself a clown and entertainer. The Court Jester loses all credibility when he formally presents at Court, which is what he, and lately my beloved Colbert has done. Stewart can’t even mock himself anymore, which is another talent of the transcendently powerful Court Jester. Stewart has been lost since Obama was elected, even though he has been critical of Obama, but being in the middle doesn’t either offer insights or get laughs. Enough. I stopped watching because his show is a muddle and he has become ridiculous. I hope he finds his feet again, otherwise he is washed up.

  22. Stewort is an enterainer, that’s all folks. Sincerely yours, bugs bunney :)

  23. The commenter “jewh*ter/vox” has been banned and his comments calling for a “REAL final solution” and “hangings” have been removed.

    I don’t support censoring anyone, but you call for violence against a people based on nothing more than religious affiliation, and I will remove your comments. Sweeping generalizations, slurs, cliche’s.. I don’t care… free speech. But you call for violence… that’s it.

    That holds true for Jews, Muslims, Christians, Gays, anybody.

    He was also posting under multiple names and making such obviously offensive comments, he could very easily have been here to discredit the thread and the other commenters by association.

    So he is gone I make no apologies.

  24. In my admittedly limited experience, you will never, EVER get British or American people to admit that their governments have committed a war crime.

    Even people whom I know to be kind and generous, simply can’t bear to admit to any REAL wrongdoing on behalf of their government. Like friends of mine who say “Oh, the war in Iraq is ridiculous, we should come home right now” immediately balk at the suggestion Blair should be tried for war crimes. Why? Are they afraid Britain will have to pay reparations? They are just far too hung up on themselves as Allied Saviours Of The World From Hitler and All Successive Hitlers.

  25. I do not watch Stewart anymore, so who are his sponsors now? I will gladly ban their products when I find out who they are.

  26. willy – thank you. and no apologies needed.

  27. Good call on jewhatr. This is not that kind of place. While it is important to protect free speech it is also imperative not to sanction the exploitation of that right for free hate.

  28. Thanks for this.
    It’s a shame I can’t stomach this guy anymore. I dig his news team.

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