Swedish Members of JIG Appear to Reject Critical Aspects of the Official Report on the Sinking of the Cheonan

by Scott Creighton (H/T to Jay for bringing this to our attention)

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The 300+ page “final” Joint Investigation Group (JIG) report on the sinking of the Cheonan has been released and by their own accounting, the reason for the release of the report is to bolster sinking confidence in the last “final” report they released, on May 20th 2010 (which was universally rejected as being almost a complete fabrication). The officials themselves finally had to admit that the image they used in their May 20th presentation was in fact NOT a match for the evidence they supposedly found on May 15th of this year (with a “special net”) and since that evidence (the supposed propulsion system and steering section of a CHT-02D torpedo made in North Korea) again by their own statements, is the key evidence held against North Korea, they spent a great deal of time and effort trying once again to rebrand their entire case around it. And once again, they failed to prove their case with regard to the torpedo evidence comparison to the supposed drawing of the North Korean CHT-02d torpedo, which I will detail further in my next article. 

In a blow to conclusions that are already under attack from leftwing politicians and activists, a team of experts that investigated the sinking of the Navy corvette Cheonan have admitted showing a diagram of the wrong North Korean torpedo when they presented their findings at a press conference on May 20. 

When queried by journalists about discrepancies between the CHT-02D torpedo that attacked the Cheonan and the one depicted in the diagram, investigators said Tuesday that the pictured torpedo was of the model PT-97W and that the error was due to “a mix-up by a staff member while preparing for the presentation.”  Chosun IIbo , June 30, 2010

But in this article I wish to focus on a rather telling aspect of the new full report – the dissenting opinion of the Swedish team  of the JIG members to the findings of the most important parts of the report.

The public in South Korea has lost faith in the official report on what happened to their military vessel, the Cheonan and subsequently they want to know what really caused the loss of the lives of 46 of their sailors. Seeing this as a potential PR problem, the government of the Republic of Korea, with the “assistance” of the U.S. Department of State and Hillary Clinton, is mounting a deeply divisive propaganda campaign directed at those people who question the “official story”

… Many South Koreans are also skeptical. A survey by Seoul National University’s Institute for Peace and Unification Studies showed that only three in 10 trust the findings of the international inquiry.

… South Korea yesterday released a full report into the deadly sinking of a warship blamed on North Korea, saying it was acting to quell “groundless” suspicions about who was to blame for the tragedy.

… “Even within the Republic of Korea [South Korea], the reality is that there are individuals who raise doubts about the investigation results based on their own interest, and they are taking irresponsible actions such as spreading groundless accusations,” said the report.  JoongAng english

The people of the Republic of Korea have good reason to be skeptical and angry. They are being lied to. Repeatedly.

But it’s not just the people of the Republic of Korea who seem to refute key aspects of the report.  Aside from the Russians and the Chinese who have announced that they don’t find the report’s conclusions to be grounded in scientific fact, turns out, neither does the members of Swedish team of the Joint Investigation Group. Looks like they don’t support the work of the other members of the group or at least, they aren’t going to sign-on to those conclusions that they produced.  Those conclusions are the most important parts of the supposed case against North Korea.

The JIG investigation team was made-up of investigators from 5 different countries; the Republic of Korea, the United Kingdom, Australia, Sweden, and of course the United States. The team was broken down into 4 different investigation groups with representatives of the different nations working within certain groups and on certain parts of the overall investigation. Only the United States and South Korea had members of their teams working on every one of the 4 investigation groups.

The first four pages of the full report are reserved for the signatures of the heads of the five teams from the various nations participating in the investigation. They each have a signed statement showing support for the findings of the final report.  An example of the typical signature of approval is provided below.

As you can see, Thomas Eccles, team leader of the U.S. team, “concur[s] with the finding and conclusions of this report”. It is a unequivical acceptance of the entire report. Most of the signatures repeat the exact same language.  Most, that is.

The Swedish team leader, Mr. Agne Widholm, reserves his support to ONLY those aspects of the report that the Swedish team was involved with. Which means they do not support the most critical aspects of the report

The following image is taken directly from the report itself. It details which team members worked on which of the 4 investigative subcategories.

(click on image for larger view)

As you can see, the Swedish team was not involved with the evaluation of the explosive analysis nor the overall intelligence analysis. For that matter, according to the report, they were not involved with the retrieval of the key piece of evidence, the torpedo itself, nor the evaluation of it and the comparative drawings.

These two aspects of the Joint Investigative Group’s findings are by far and away the most important and supposedly damning with regard to finding that North Korea fired a torpedo which sank the Cheonan on March 26th of this year.  It is extremely telling when one team of this investigation refuses to support the conclusions of the others especially when it comes to these aspects of the official case study.

The United States had 15 members helping with the “investigation” including one “Public Affairs Officer” who was involved in every aspect of the investigation. The United Kingdom provided 2 members, Australia provided 3 and Sweden provided 4 in all for a total of 24 Foreign Investigation Team members.

When the country providing the second largest team of investigators in a study such as this refuses to support the findings of the rest, then there must be a serious problem. And there is. But that is for tomorrow.

[preview of tomorrow's article]

Also of significance… the images of the supposed North Korean CHT-02D torpedo come from a torpedo export catalog and that is the basis for their entire argument. They have yet to release that catalog to the press or the public.

Citing military confidentiality, the JIG did not respond to calls for it disclose a torpedo export catalog that reportedly includes specifications of the torpedo in question. Hankyorah

And once again, there are several discrepancies between the image of the recovered evidence and the drawing they provided. The first of which I show below. The motor is too large to fit in the housing they detail in the drawing. The length is correct, but the width is far too large.

Allow me to explain…

Another way to tell it is the wrong size is to compare the size of the motor to the rest of the torpedo, in the case of the evidence, that would be to the rudder controls plate in the tail section, which in the drawing, the motor housing is about the same size, but again the motor of the evidence is much larger by comparison.

As Johnnie L. Cochran, Jr. once said… “If it don’t fit… you must acquit

21 Responses

  1. The ROK-DoD altered the size of the explosion from an equivalent of 250 kg TNT up to 360 kg last week: http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_northkorea/439236.html

    Now in the final report of the JIG they still claim, that the bending of the ship’s screws comes from the ‘forces of rotational inertia’ due to a sudden stop of the engine(s): http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_northkorea/439707.html

    The assumption of a sudden stop is unrealistic, because you can’t stop a gas turbine or the shaft at once (due to the forces of inertia). And, as you can see clearly from the fotos, the tips of the screw blades are bended FORWARD (to the bow) and not backwards to the stern, as you would expect in this case. The only plausible explanation ist the opposite (over-)load direction: instead through water the blades went through a much rougher material and hit also solid rock some times destroying the gear box and the machine (gas turbine): http://img.hani.co.kr/imgdb/resize/2010/0728/128020288077_20100728.JPG

    This is all just a cover-up, getting worse the more questions are asked. You could laugh about the cheap tricks if it all would not have nearly led to another war.

  2. In the “The Joint Investigation Report On the Attack Against ROK Ship Cheonan” issued by the Ministry of National Defense Republic of Korea on Sept 13, 2010 in Seoul Korea, the following claim is made:

    “The Civilian-Military Joint Investigation Group reported the investigation results to the UN Security Council on June 14. As a result, UN Security Council Presidential Statement that acknowledges and condemns North Korea’s culpability in the incident was unanimously adopted.”

    This is a distortion of the facts. Again, as Willy Lohman said on May 24, “we are being lied to”.

    The UN Security Council Presidential Statement (http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2010/sc9975.doc.htm) does not assign culpability to the DPRK (North Korea). The statement says:

    “. . . The Security Council deplores the attack on 26 March 2010 which led to the sinking of the Republic of Korea naval ship, the Cheonan, resulting in the tragic loss of 46 lives.

    “The Security Council determines that such an incident endangers peace and security in the region and beyond.

    “The Security Council deplores the loss of life and injuries and expresses its deep sympathy and condolences to the victims and their families and to the people and Government of the Republic of Korea, and calls for appropriate and peaceful measures to be taken against those responsible for the incident aimed at the peaceful settlement of the issue in accordance with the United Nations Charter and all other relevant provisions of international law.

    “In view of the findings of the Joint Civilian-Military Investigation Group led by the Republic of Korea with the participation of five nations, which concluded that the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea was responsible for sinking the Cheonan, the Security Council expresses its deep concern.

    “The Security Council takes note of the responses from other relevant parties, including from the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, which has stated that it had nothing to do with the incident.

    “Therefore, the Security Council condemns the attack which led to the sinking of the Cheonan.

    “The Security Council underscores the importance of preventing further such attacks or hostilities against the Republic of Korea or in the region. . . .”

    There is nothing in this Presidential Statement which, “acknowledges and condemns North Korea’s culpability in the incident “.

    The US spokespeople and the ROK spokespeople who claim otherwise, as does the new Final Report, are purposely throwing sand in people’s eyes to cover up that the UN Security Council did not endorse their false indictment of the DPRK.

    There is an important article about the constructive process by which the Security Council arrived at the Presidential Statement, “In Cheonan Dispute UN Security Council Acts in Accord with UN Charter” by Ronda Hauben posted Sept 5 at:

    http://blogs.taz.de/netizenblog/

    It ends, “The Security Council Action on the Cheonan dispute, if it is recognized and supported, has set the basis instead for a peaceful resolution of the conflict.”

  3. Furious pace posting of articles here lately A.E. Plenty of good reads. Bravo!

  4. thanks Herrmann.

  5. all missles look alike to me….. but even I can see the difference that you are writing about, Willy…..especially with those pictures you posted…..
    good article!!!!

  6. Hi, have a look at this post…
    http://hantoma.hani.co.kr/board/view.html?board_id=ht_politics:001001&uid=297093
    It’s written in Korean, but from the pictures it is clear what the difference is between the diagram and the torpedo parts. I can’t wait your next article. Thanks and all the best. Kay

  7. Kay

    If you could, take a screen-shot of that and email it to me. I can’t get the website to load.

    rscdesigns@verizon.net

  8. Try this:
    http://blog.hani.co.kr/osta2000/
    I will try to do as you say also.

  9. don’t worry about the screen shot. that one worked much better. and you are right, very detailed description of what I was talking about and then some. thanks

  10. He is suggesting two possibilities:
    1. There is no torpedo catalogue, nor CD.
    2. There are two torpedo parts, one is what they took photo on the boat, the other one is for the show to the public.

  11. One aspect of this thing I am looking into is the actual collection of the “evidence’ itself.

    The Swedish team was involved with evidence collection…but not the finding of the pieces of the torpedo.

    They scoured the bottom of the Yellow Sea where this took place. They found small fragments of the boat, body parts, the engine from the boat, and all kinds of small debris…

    but somehow, they missed the torpedo?

    It took a “special net” to find that, in the same area that the Swedish team and others had searched.

    Kind of odd isn’t it?

  12. The “evidence” was actually not from the sea by a special net. Give me a little time, I will find the process photos how the “evidnece” was “pulled out” of sea. It was not.

  13. http://www.seoprise.com/board/view.php?uid=169693&table=seoprise_12&field_gubun=%C3%B5%BE%C8%C7%D4&start=660

    look into the red circle, the “evidence” was on the boat from the begining, and the special net was never used..

  14. http://bbs1.agora.media.daum.net/gaia/do/debate/read?bbsId=D003&articleId=3796397

    A=B: torpedo photo took on the boat;
    C: (The other?) torpedo photo to the public.

    Notice that the length of “2″ in A, and compare that part in C.

  15. Wish I could read Korean….. :(
    Kay, those articles look sooooo interesting.

  16. Jan, thanks.
    I wish you can tell this to your friends, your readers.

    http://www.seoprise.com/board/view.php?uid=169693&table=seoprise_12&field_gubun=%C3%B5%BE%C8%C7%D4&start=660

    In this article, you will see 8 pictures…
    I will try to explane according to the article in Korean.

    1. yellow box shows the special net, 5mm x 5mm. It look like bigger than 5cm x 5cm to me. people in the red circles are “fishermen” in uniform. weather is not good.

    2. packing of the mortor(?) of the torpedo. lookk into the red circle….something is a piece of net. fishermen are all gone?

    3. again, look into the red circle, something is under a piece of net…

    4. see what is under the piece of net? Yes, that is right, the torpedo.

    5. the other angle, the torpedo (in the red circle) was there from the begining, not pulled out.

    6. measuring the evidence. note that the torpedo part is very clean with no much rust, with blck paint, also see that there is a white (aluminium) lid. under the lid they will show the famous “No.1″ “North Korean Font” blue magic pen written letter. You do not see any wet part on and around the torpedo right after “pulled out” of sea.

    7. another measuring…remember the white lid, and the lid is gone when they show to public later. A part of the evidence is gone?

    8. the best picture….yes, you are looking at a piece of metal wire on the torpedo. who will put wire after explosion and before recovery?

    Hope you catch the meaning from my Konglish writing.

    also, watch this video…
    http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000754765

  17. those are good photos Kay, but the only problem is that it is difficult to say whether or not the pictures were taken after the net was brought back up.

    In fact, the 6th picture shows the net itself a a different configuration than what it looked like prior to being deployed (picture with “fishermen”)

    I would like to see if I can find those pictures the report used showing the boat as it was getting ready to depart from the docks. There were several pictures of that preparation and I wonder, now we know what to look for, if that same piece of net and torpedo are in those.

  18. willyloman,
    Thanks for the comment,
    If you watch this video:
    http://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_read.jsp?news_id=N1000754765
    you can hardly find any number measured by a ruler fit to the diagram and the torpedo part, Figure III-8-5, the new type of torpedo, model CHT-02D.
    Even in your picture sited here, look at the numbers, from left, 19cm, 27cm, and 33.3cm. You can see the length marked with 33.3cm is actually shorter than 27cm.

    check out this page…
    http://www.seoprise.com/board/view.php?uid=200875&table=seoprise_12&field_gubun=%C3%B5%BE%C8%C7%D4
    you can download a PDF file which is drown by CAD program. None of the number “perfectly” match to the numbers from the boat.

  19. Correction…
    the numbers are from right, not the left. my mistake.

  20. I figured out why the numbers are like they are. They photoshopped the picture of the motor to make it fit the drawing AFTER they had locked the dimensions in autocad…

    http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/photoshopped-evidence-in-jig-final-report-on-the-sinking-of-the-rok-cheonan/

    your links to the video of the recovery and the dimension discrepency all add up…

    good stuff, Kay.

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