ABC’s “50 Grams of PETN” Video is Propaganda and I Have the Proof

by Scott Creighton 

ABC is lying to you.  Whether they know it or not, they are supposed to research what they put on tv prior to running with a story. They obviously haven’t done any research with their recent story about what the “underwear bomb” could have done to a plane.  What they have done is bowed to the military industrial complex and run a video based entirely on the misinformation they were given.  That isn’t journalism and you would think they would have learned their lesson after all the bullshit they “reported” in the run-up to the Iraq war.  Simply put, 50gs of PETN would NOT do that to a plane and I have the video evidence to prove it. 

 

(side note: if anyone knows how to archive these videos, please do so. They will almost surely disappear as more people start looking at them and making the same comparisons that I am) 

The fact that this man allegedly did what he did is bad enough, but now we have major news organizations using dishonest graphic videos to lie to their audience in order to incite fear in the general population.  When they do that, it has to make one wonder about the event in the first place.  Especially when the circumstances of the event are so curious and even more so when the news and apparently the government is lying through their teeth about it on national television.  The question becomes; if they will lie about one aspect to serve their own purposes, what else are they willing to lie about? 

I’ve done a little research on PETN in the past; specifically, how it works when used as det cord. If you have been reading here for a while, you are familiar with what I wrote and the research that I have done. When I first read that the guy had 50gs (that was the first story, then they “upped” it to 80 grs) of PETN in his pants, I thought that was kind of odd in itself.  50gs of PETN could possibly be useful in an attack on an airliner, but you would pretty much have to put it up against the side of the cabin when ignited.  It would certainly blow a hole through the aluminum composite wall but not a huge one. That sudden decrease in cabin pressure, though not catastrophic, could certain cause major problems.  However, if those 50gs were to be located in a more sensitive area of the plane, then of course it could be big trouble.  I certainly don’t recommend trying it. 

This is what 50gs of PETN will do.  As you can see, it’s an even larger package of PETN than that which the “underwear bomber” had strapped to his crotch. 

The sapling it takes out is about 2″ in diameter, which you can see at the end of the short video. Obviously the explosion is not massive but PETN is definitely a high explosive and something you should not fuck with if you aren’t professionally trained to do so.  We are not talking about a M-80 or your average bottle rocket.  We are also not talking about Steven Jones’ ridiculous “thermite” here.  This stuff is the real deal and I am certainly not making light of  it. 

In another video, we see what 50 grs of PETN does when packed into a brick wall. Notice again the consistency with the first video in relation to the smoke and noise produced.  You will also notice that in the end of the ABC video they show how much PETN is 80 grs worth in a measuring cup.  That amount is proportional to what we see packed in the wall. 

Here is a still photo taken from that experiment. 

50 gr PETN in Wall

Now, ABC News is showing over and over again a video of what they claim just 50 grs of PETN will do to a plane.  It’s remarkably different from anything else you will find on PETN, so much so that I had to post this article as quickly as I could.  This kind of deliberate misinformation is done for one reason and one reason only; fear mongering. 

Let me go on record as saying 50gs of PETN sitting in a chair in economy class will NOT do this to an aircraft. No way. No how.  Simply put, it is impossible. 

ABC's fraudulent 50 gms Video

Here’s a still from a close up version they showed again during the same segment.  You are undoubtably going to see these videos over and over again just like the towers falling on 9/11.  This is even more disgusting because these videos aren’t even of what happened… they are some defense department warmongers lie about “what would have happened”.  It’s a fiction.  A blatant lie being sent out there to do nothing other than frighten the public when the reality is, the ridiculous “underwear bomb” could not have done this and they damn well know it.  It is shameful that someone in the military would promote this and it is even more shameful that ABC would use it to sell commercial airtime. 

 

Can YOU see a difference between the two experiments?  Does one look much larger than the other?  Just in case you wonder about the first video, here is another with 50 gms of PETN. Notice it’s sound and visible output of smoke is about the same as the first video I put up. 

Below we have 150g PETN + 250g Amonium nitrat   

Starting to see a pattern here? Again, this is not something for you to try at home kiddies. This shit is dangerous.  However, ABC and the military industrial complex (who is just DYING to start up another conflict in an oil producing country) is taking advantage of the fact that people don’t really have an understanding of what this stuff is or what it can do. 

It would appear that far too many people have been commenting on the pathetic nature of this recent “al Qaeda” (I put that in parenthesis for you Jlennon08) attack and the ridiculousness of the “underwear bomb” itself so they decided to LIE TO YOU about the danger it posed.  This is not only bad journalism, it is flat-out propaganda and it’s a lie. 

Thanks to Kenny at Kenny’s Sideshow for first putting up the image of the blown up airliner in the ABC video and wondering about the relevent facts of the matter.  To answer your question; no, 50gs of PETN cannot do that to an airliner. 

As a side note I just want to say, that after all the fucking lies that the FBI has pawned off on us, I am tired of listening to what “they say” the “underwear bomber” is saying or confessing too. There was a time when an agency like the FBI wouldn’t even attempt to get away with such crap like that.  I remember a time when the FBI spent 10 years pretending like organized crime didn’t exist in this country because someone had a picture of Hoover giving some guy head.  So they LIED FOR 10 YEARS to the American public and allowed criminals to literally get away with murder. 

More recently THEY LIED about Dr. Ivins and would have had to pay ANOTHER 5 MILLION DOLLARS (of our money by the way) for trying to frame that man… had he not “committed suicide” before he could defend himself in court. 

And now, we take it ON FAITH that what some undisclosed FBI agent tells us about the “underwear bomber” is confessing to is the truth?  After we can clearly see the lie in their 50gs of PETN video?  I don’t think so.  ABC should know better.  It’s nothing more than propaganda and I for one won’t ever trust a thing they say again.

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22 Responses

  1. now that is nice journalism, Willy.

  2. Another interesting little sideline is the radio interview with a family on the flight …

    Her daughter said that ahead of them was a man who videotaped the entire flight, including the attempted detonation.

    “He sat up and videotaped the entire thing, very calmly,” said Patricia. “We do know that the FBI is looking for him intensely. Since then, we’ve heard nothing about it.”

    http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/80201152.html

    If that’s true, I’d sure like to see the video. The media would surely pay some big bucks for it.

    If I were a conspiracy type I might think that the guy filming was there to ‘document the event.’

  3. And, allegedly, the underpants are available as part of an explosive new range of fashion lingerie ;-)

  4. personally, I am waiting for the matching belt and loafers set coming out next month… they’re to die for ;)

  5. That is a big plane.. the explosion the ‘news’ is ‘saying’ could have occured is at least three times as high as a human and more than 1/3 the length of the plane….. that is a big explosion… none of the tested in the field explosions even come close to the size of the ‘news’ story… can’t they see that?

  6. THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.

    We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.

    Edward Bernays
    Propaganda, 1928

  7. [...] ABC’s “50 Grams of PETN” Video is Propaganda and I Have the Proof Posted on December 29, 2009 by willyloman [...]

  8. Scott Creighton writes:

    “(side note: if anyone knows how to archive these videos, please do so. They will almost surely disappear as more people start looking at them and making the same comparisons that I am)”

    I don’t know how to archive it, but at minimum you might want to transcribe what was said by ABC News during this little Project Mockingbird propaganda piece.

  9. That’s a very good idea, McCosker. I will do that.

  10. Oh yes, now I’m going to believe in crop circles and the twin tower inside job.

    Thank you for this wide-eyed paranoid rubbish.

  11. Oh Baz, you are so right!
    we are suspicious and we try to keep our eyes open and we are suspicious of the rubbish put out by the main media….. glad you enjoyed Willy’s posting and the intelligent comments posted….. I drop in often and look forward to reading comments especially one as silly as yours…..
    I believe in crop circles also…. they are real……now, who makes them is another thing….. … and why are they made? for the fun of it? the pictures of them are very pretty… could be an ‘art’ form… and expression of a person’s inner self …. or maybe a magnetic field created by the earth.. or a alien… oh! You choose.

    inside job of the twin towers… that opens up a big can of worms…….. glad you are so well informed.

  12. I met a guy the other night, Jan, who flies as a pilot for American Airlines.

    We ended up talking about 9/11.

    He said “You’re not one of those knuckle-heads who think “the government” took out the towers are you? You’re not a “conspiracy theorist” are you? I heard a tape of those terrorists in the cock-pit, I KNEW those pilots…” yadda yadda yadda…

    So, what was I to do.

    I asked if he believes that 19 angry Muslims got together and came up with a way to attack the US with 4 planes.

    He said yes.

    I told him congradulations… you’re a conspiracy theorist. When you believe that more than one person conspires to commit a crime, it’s a “conspiracy”…

    I then went on to explain that, no, I don’t think “the government” did it, just a few people working within the government… kinda like a few people working within the government conspired to lie us into a war with Iraq.

    Then I said

    “Well, I have spent 4 years researching, reading, works engineers, architects, former Bush administration officials, NIST’s reports, FEMAs report, RJ LEEs report, the 9/11 Commission report, the audio testimonies of the police and firemen on the scene, countless eyewitness statements, several versions of the NSTB’s version of what happened, several versions of NORADs versions of what happened.

    All that I have studied to finally come to the conclusion that I have reluctantly come to…

    … and all I really had to do was listen to one 5 minute long audio tape prepared by the FBI.

    And you call us “knuckleheads”?”

    I left it at that and walked away from him. I remember he at one time professed that he was a good friend of the pilot who was flying Flight 77. And so he got all indignant about the whole thing. Of course, he didn’t know that the pilots daughter died in a strange apartment fire in 2006.

    The point is, people have a lot of reasons for keeping their eyes wide-shut…

    I gave up trying to diagnose them years ago. Now I just point out their shortcomings and their lazy approach to understanding the world they live in, as quickly and succinctly as I can, then I move on with my life. Maybe, one day, they will actually care enough about it to do a little research to “prove me wrong”.

    That’s how most of us came to see there is something very wrong with the Official Conspiracy Theory.

    (I like that “crop circle” thing… yes, I believe in crop circles, I believe they indeed are there… who made them, that’s a different story”… nice.)

  13. [...] 50 grams of PETN positioned on a seat and cushioned underneath a passenger are tested and would not cause significant damage to the plane. [...]

  14. [...] “throwing yourself on a grenade” to that end?  So the big “terrorist” plot here is to get a small amount of PETN onboard a plane and then SIT ON IT, thus absorbing the relatively small explosion… with his ass and his 150lb [...]

  15. [...] “throwing yourself on a grenade” to that end?  So the big “terrorist” plot here is to get a small amount of PETN onboard a plane and then SIT ON IT, thus absorbing the relatively small explosion… with his ass and his 150lb [...]

  16. [...] “throwing yourself on a grenade” to that end?  So the big “terrorist” plot here is to get a small amount of PETN onboard a plane and then SIT ON IT, thus absorbing the relatively small explosion… with his ass and his 150lb [...]

  17. [...] ABC’s “50 Grams of PETN” Video is Propaganda and I Have the Proof « American Everyman. January 7th, 2010 | Category: Uncategorized | Leave a comment | [...]

  18. I’m a retired professional and am also a serious dabbler in the chemistry of explosives and fireworks, and I am completely in agreement with the assertions and video evidence here. What’s more, this Christmas Detroit event was never intended to be a bomb. Without a primary detonater and I know of no liquid pirmary dets which could be produced in the way this device has beend escribed; the PETN could never have exploded anyway. This event was nothing more than a transport of dangerous goods issue, and could not be considered to be genuine terrorism in my books.

  19. Baz writes:

    “Oh yes, now I’m going to believe in crop circles and the twin tower inside job.

    “Thank you for this wide-eyed paranoid rubbish.”

    Hey, thank _you_ for keeping an open mind.

  20. Have you even considered that the terrorist was just incompetent with explosives? Improvised explosives often fail.

  21. The thing that I can’t understand is this. A small quantity of explosive is more likely to destroy a plane flying at high altitude with a large pressure difference between inside and outside.

    Why

    1) Was the attempt to set off the bomb made when it was.
    2) Why did the authorities stipulate the last 30min as being when everyone should remain in their seats when that is the time when a small bomb WON’T bring a plane down?

  22. [...] on a grenade” to that end?  So the big “terrorist” plot here is to get a small amount of PETN onboard a plane and then SIT ON IT, thus absorbing the relatively small explosion… with his ass and his [...]

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