Who is Joseph Moshe?

by Scott Creighton

I am not sure what to make of this story, but here is what I know so far.

Joseph Moshe was detained after an 8 hour standoff.  The official story is that he had made “threats against the White House”, yet the story quickly died in the MSM.  In fact, if you Google his name, you don’t find one single MSM report on the first page.  That’s Odd because it was covered for the full 8 hours of the standoff by a Fox affiliate station.

In a media culture driven by the creed that if it bleeds it leads, isn’t it strange that this kind of incident barely saw the light of day in the news?

moshe 1

Moshe was able to resist massive doses of tear gas pumped into his car by a robot for hours on end. Even the police were astounded at that.  How the hell did he do that?

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Notice the gas masks that the police are wearing? They also evacuated a local Federal Building fearing the wind could blow some of this their way and injure by standers.  But Moshe is calm and relaxed?  Well, there may be a reason for that.

moshe 2

There are more great photos and some developing information at this thread.

The real story may in fact go something like this:

Less than 24 before this scene unfolded, Moshe called a call-in show claiming he was a microbiologist with information about the Baxter H1N1 vaccine being manufactured in the Ukraine.  He said he wanted to hand over evidence to the State Attorney Generals office (is the State Attorney Generals office in that Federal Building?)

Moshe reportedly was attempting to get to either the Israeli consulate or the Attorney General’s office.  At this point details are sketchy.  But we know that he did contact the talk radio show, and we do know that the Secret Service contacted the local police to get him detained.  We don know what has happened to him since his arrest.  There is word that he may have been sent to Israel, but I don’t know that yet.  If you have any info about this case, let me know.

” The would-be bomber, Joseph
Wed, 08/19/2009 – 21:16 — Anonymous (not verified)
The would-be bomber, Joseph Moshe, called into the Dr True Ott Show on Republic Broadcasting and said he was a microbiologist who wanted to hand over evidence to a States Attorney regarding tainted H1N1 vaccines being produced by Baxter pharmaceutical. He claimed that that Baxter’s lab in the Ukraine was in fact preparing a bioweapon disguised as a vaccine. He maintained that the vaccine contained both adjuvants designed to weaken the immune system, and replicated RNA from the virus responsible for the 1918 global pandemic. That’s it. He made no threat against Obama, nor said anything about bombs or any attack. The following day he was hauled out of his red VW beetle by a SWAT team and arrested. He was immediately extradited to Israel, where he has dual-citizenship, and hasn’t been heard from since. All this talk portraying him as being a rightwing nutcase is disinformation designed to keep his disturbing comments from alarming the public.”

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30 Responses

  1. That is strange. First, why didn’t the tear gas affect him?
    Second, why treat him so terrrible if he wanted to ‘give’ information?

  2. I aggree this is an odd situation. Willyloman, Im sure you will keep to the radar scope with this unfolding.

    Im sitting here, shaking my head. Here we go. Another weird situation unfolding. I hope DAVE E. sees this..

  3. I’m not sure how reliable this site is, however, when I saw the pictures and read the story here, I knew I had seen it somewhere before:

    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1265.htm

  4. Karen, what is it about this site your not sure of? I can vouch for the reliable reliability of the person operating this site. It’s me im just not sure of. Im actually a kennedy (jfk) conservitive democrat. So you can imagine what a constant confused state im always in. I keep bouncing left to right.

    Everyone here is weiry of useless killing, weiry of the lies from our government, and thats just the tip of the iceberg.

    Is that an accurate description, Willyloman.?

    • I think that bout sums it up, Scott. But I think she may have been talking about the other site. The one she linked to. I could be wrong, of course. Happened before… once.

  5. Karen is linking to a site that describes the end of the world? Like according to some interpretations of the bible. Her link has nothing to do with the Moshe article that Willy has put up.

  6. The Sorcha Faal site that Karen links to, IMHO, is disinfo. Truth mixed with a lot of BS.

    That aside, this indeed is a very strange story that needs clarification but I’m not sure where that will come from.

  7. My wording was faulty in my comment. I was referring to the What Really Happened website when I wrote that I didn’t know how reliable the source was because some of the stories I read there seem a little off the wall and extreme. I was not criticizing anyone here. SORRY!!!

    • I don’t think you pissed anyone off Karen. Not me at least. I’m not surprised that WRH carried the story as well and I am a little embarrassed that I didn’t pick up on this story for so long. And I know what you mean about WRH as a site. I used to have them on the blog roll here, and I would link to them quite often… but you know what? I have become so angry about this healthcare thing.

      I really support a single-payer system. I don’t support Obamacare AT ALL… it’s another payday for the insurance companies that will cripple many Americans financially, while enabling these criminal companies to continue mistreating us for decades to come. I really hate the Obamacare plan.

      But sites like WRH seem only concerned about enabling the militants to come out in opposition to the bill because, as they mistakenly put it, it is “socialism”… government “taking over” the healthcare industry… which of course it isn’t. Far from it.

      So, WRH, Prison Planet, DProgram… all of these sites are now gone in my book.

  8. Jan, actually the article I linked to IS about this same man. Scroll down and read it.

    I am sorry I pissed everyone off here. That was not my intention. My intention was to point to that site where they posted about this man about a week ago.

  9. Karen,
    Your link is not to ‘what really happened’ but to a totally different site, ‘what does it mean.’ I don’t think anyone is pissed but just trying to set the record straight.

  10. Ok…Kenny, sorry, I am in the middle of doing a lot of things, I meant the website WHAT DOES IT MEAN., not what really happened. Apologies again. I should pay better attention to what I am writing. I like to think I can do 20 things at one time well and evidence is showing I can’t.

    Willy, I am against Obamacare as well–I am against Obama–period. He’s a fascist and no friend to anyone that I know.

  11. KAREN, ditto for me, you didn’t piss me off. It was late last nite when i read your comment, and i just misunderstood. Im very sorry. I went over to that site, and found the Moshe story. some of the others were kinda weird.

  12. He was immediately extradited to Israel, where he has dual-citizenship, and hasn’t been heard from since.

    . Is it common policy in the USA to extradite all dual citizens to their second country?

  13. It appears to be so when Israely citizens are involved.
    Doesen’t it?

  14. I wonder what happen to him when he arrived in Israel?

    The bottom line here is,,,,WTF was this? What was this REALLY all about? Could it be just like he originally claimed? That the drugs are met to bring harm to any who receive the injection’s?

    Too damm much controversy now for me to ever take any. I havent had a flu shot for ten years anyhow.

  15. Cool site, love the info. I do a lot of research online on a daily basis and for the most part, people lack substance but, I just wanted to make a quick comment to say I’m glad I found your blog. Thanks,

    A definite great read…

    -Bill-Bartmann

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  17. that’s interesting re0search, but the link you post to the police arrest file shows that the Moshe in question there was only arrested on misdemeanor charges, and released on his own recognizance…

    does that standoff video reflect a misdemeanor bust? I find that hard to believe that. In fact, isn’t resisting arrest a felony in and of itself, not too mention whatever it was that caused the standoff in the first place?

    It is interesting, though, what you found. thanks for posting the link.

  18. Willyloman, that Moshe was only charged for minor delinquencies was already said in some of the TV news takeouts that are all over the web.

    Actually, resisting arrest *is* a misdemeanor.

    Obviously, the rather spectacular impression the standoff gave was due to large amounts of man-, car- and machine power, loads of tear gas and the final use of a taser. In fact, the unarmed guy just sat in the car, waiting. Obviously, he has no tear gas-resisting super power, his car just shielded him pretty decently.

  19. re0search, the main question for me is why did they go after the arrested Moshe? It wasn’t a standard traffic stop. Without knowing that we’re all just guessing.

  20. Kenny, what I said is quite independent of why he was arrested. Furthermore, what you don’t know and maybe took some time to scrutines cannot proof anything not give sufficient reason to believe.

  21. re0search;

    The reason they were trying to arrest him is clearly important but even more important is that we keep a level head while evaluating the little evidence we have before us. And we remain intellectually honest while doing so.

    Resisting arrest CAN be a misdemeanor, but more often than not, it *isn’t*; it’s a felony. It depends on the circumstances. It is usually a felony, though.

    Especially when the use of the taser is involved; especially when multiple officers are involved; especially when the police officers have to get the Urban Combat Vehicle involved.

    And one more thing…

    You and I and anyone else can clearly see that car is filled up with the teargas… the car didn’t “shield him” from the gas… it became the container FOR the gas, with Moshe inside it.

    So whatever you think about his ability to withstand the gas for so long, the car didn’t “shield him” from it.

    You can clearly see that in all the photos and the videos out there.

  22. willyloman, you will have to research more thoroughly. As you can easily find out (http://tinyurl.com/yffjtdg), resisting arrest in LA is usually charged as a misdemeanor. It *can* (and has happened to) be charged as a felony, which, as the information retrieved from the Inmate Information Center of the LA County Sheriff’s department confirms, was not the case, however.

    I *cannot* clearly see that the car is filled up with tear gas. I can see, however, tear gas being shot at the car, I can see it bouncing off the car windows and clouding around the car, and I can see that the car windows are shut until, after the use of tear gas, one window is broken out with a device in order to taser the man.

  23. willylowman, I have to correct what I said earlier. I spend some more time looking at the footage, and I realised that some good amount of the gas entered the car. So we can calmly concede that this man is not very much affected by it. Another question, still, is whether someone who has that ability has necessarily been trained by special forces. Consider cases of pathological indolence (the inability to perceive pain) – should the first explanation for why someone is in that very regrettable condition resort to speculations about previous training to resist torture?

  24. re0search
    I don’t really put that much emphasis on the fact that the man was able to resist the gas as well as he did. True, law inforcement officers and military personel have to undergo training that helps them deal with the adverse affects better than most people, but I never really thought that this fact alone was all that important. He could just have a high threshold for pain or he could have ducked down a bit and rolled the window down so that the gas moved through the car over his head for the most part.

    I never really assigned much importance to that aspect of the story, but I thank you for making that concession.

    I am still very interested in the charges that you found. Have you taken the time to look up the statutes that are listed there to see exactly what they charged him with?

    Another thing to consider is that sometimes, when a suspect is pursued by both local and federal officers, the federal charges take precident so the charges that the local officials tag onto the perp seem unusually light given the dramatic nature of the arrest.

    This is a possible explination for the lesser charges, though again, I am certainly not a law enforcement officer.

  25. I read it all. Thanks Willy,
    Apparently you had no final solution.
    Did he fly away Superman-like? And was there proof of renditioning to Israel? From the lack of lab-techs, microbiological teams, etc it wasn’t the H1N! that scared them. Maybe Mossad said it was a cyberhuman experiment that had escaped their lab!!!!! Just kidding.

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