Palin Told AIPAC she wants stronger israeli Ties.
by Haaretz New service, here.
U.S. Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin told the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC on Tuesday that she would “work to expand and deepen the strategic partnership between U.S. and Israel,” the group’s spokesman told the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Palin spent Tuesday in her hotel suite with campaign aides working on her speech at the Republican Convention scheduled for Wednesday. Sources familiar with her schedule said that she also had a private session with Jewish Senator Joe Lieberman.
Lieberman, a democrat and former vice presidential nominee, has come out in support of the Republican ticket, saying in his speech Tuesday “Governor Palin, like [presidential candidate] John McCain, is a reformer, that’s why I sincerely believe the real ticket for change is the McCain-Palin ticket.”
“I’m here to support John McCain because country matters more than party,” Lieberman added. “John McCain’s whole life testifies to a great truth: being a Democrat or a Republican is important. But it is not more important than being an American.”
Palin has dominated the Republican convention for days without making a public appearance but on Wednesday she takes the spotlight with a prime-time speech that will introduce her to American voters.
Since McCain made the almost unknown Palin his No. 2, the Alaska governor has been at the center of a media storm fueled by disclosures about her unmarried teenage daughter’s pregnancy, a probe into her role in a state official’s firing in Alaska and questions about her political record.
McCain, 72, an Arizona senator, and Palin will be nominated by the convention on Wednesday to face Democrat Barack Obama and his vice presidential running mate, Joe Biden, in the Nov. 4 presidential election.
Palin’s anti-abortion and pro-gun record have excited conservatives and party activists, but the appearance on Wednesday will be her first chance to directly tell American voters her life story and philosophy.
It comes just five days after McCain shocked the U.S. political world by introducing the 44-year-old first-term governor as his running mate at an Ohio rally.
“She made her first impression on Republicans in Ohio on Friday when McCain introduced her,” said Fergus Cullen, chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party. “Now she can make a first impression on the rest of the country.”
Palin, the first female Republican vice presidential nominee, has stayed out of the public eye in Minnesota for two days while the revelations about her family and her record in Alaska surfaced.
She has been preparing her address with speechwriter Matt Scully, who drafted her speech in Ohio. “We’re just going to rock ‘em, sock ‘em – we kind of like it when people underestimate us,” a McCain campaign official said of the speech.
The furor over Palin has raised questions about McCain’s judgment and the depth of investigation that preceded her selection, and could put a dent in McCain’s efforts to build momentum heading out of the convention.
As the convention was under way on Tuesday, a peaceful march on behalf of poor people by more than 1,000 demonstrators led to a brief confrontation of some of them with police. Pepper spray and teargas were used to drive the protesters away from the downtown Xcel Energy Center where the convention was being held.
Much of Monday’s convention schedule was delayed by Hurricane Gustav’s assault on the Gulf Coast, but the gathering resumed on Tuesday with criticism of Obama and testimonials to the character of McCain, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam.
The convention also marked the passing of leadership in the party from President George W. Bush to McCain. Bush praised McCain, his rival in a bitter presidential nominating battle in 2000.
“He’s not afraid to tell you when he disagrees. Believe me, I know,” Bush told the convention in a brief speech via satellite from Washington.
Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson, whose own presidential bid fell short this year, contrasted Obama’s speech to 200,000 cheering Germans in Berlin in July with McCain’s global reputation for leadership.
“The respect he (McCain) is given around the world is not because of a teleprompter speech designed to appeal to American critics abroad, but because of decades of clearly demonstrated character and statesmanship,” Thompson said.
Thompson blasted “Washington pundits and media big shots” who have been critical of Palin.
“The selection of Governor Palin has the other side and their friends in the media in a state of panic. She is a courageous, successful reformer, who is not afraid to take on the establishment,” he said.
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no surprise there….
Agreed, no surprise. Sickening, though. Getting an endorsement from the Israeli ambassador (Liebermann) ought to be telling as well.
Dave
http://daveeriqat.wordpress.com/
TO JAN: I’ve been seen now by the MD. it was that sister n law i told you about that fought them tooth n nails for an immediate appointment this morning. she’s a hell of a fighter. It’s a hemitoma, there is a serious risk of life threatning situation from infection, and im now on antibiotic thearpy. for one week. follow up visit is in two weeks.
there now, did i do good?
Yeah, Scott Humphrey, you did good…. Willyloman hit it right on the nail… infection…
NOw, you have to drink a lot of water to keep your liver happy…. a little orange juice for vit C and get plenty of rest. The body heals mostly druing your rest periods….. keep up with your medicine ‘times’…
Sorry you are feeling so bad. get someone to bring you some movie discs and lay back and enjoy…… happy feelings are healing ones….. find something to laugh at…. your sister-in-law sounds like a ‘winner’………
Hi Scott; she’s been mothering you as well I see… ah well, it’s good that you got that looked after. Fleeing the Stazi horde is much more difficult on one foot. I would hate to have to leave you behind.
Dave; Yes, it seems Lieberman is taking her under his wing; teaching her the ways of the New Order. I still don’t think she will last, but if she does, they are being sure that she will keep in line, just like they expect her to. It’s a shame that one of the two possible next Vice Presidents has to be “schooled” in this manner. What is a bigger shame is that no one has to teach Biden any of this. he helped write the book.
Jan, for your information, I don’t and have not for 4 months now possessed a television set. i shut off the dish, gave the dish, the receiver, the wiring harnes and gave the tv, the vcr, and the dvd player away. movies are over hyped, nothing to watch, it’s all bullshit. The news is all lies, I had enough and that was enough. So, instead, im gonna sit here and bug you all. so,,,,,hows it going??
I see the republican VP candidate is getting hooked up with the zionists? Did anyone expect anything different? Untill we defeat this corrupted shit government in combat, this is our lot. Sooner or latter, what I been harpin about will come home to roost. All I gotta do is wait for that day. You all beleive this dispute will be resolved through peacefull means. History has demonstrated time and again, that only combat gets these issues settled.
I don’t know what my place will be in this, when it begins, but by now you all should know im not planning to sit it out and wait for someone else to do my part. Whether I survive it, or perish within it, makes no difference to me. My world has been taken You see, & I’ve already written myself off. Im on the rolls of the already dead. As a result, I enjoy the benifits of not giving a damm any more. Anyone who does not understand where im comming from, read James Jones book, “THE EVOLUTION OF A SOLDIER”. Upon reading whats written by this combat infantry veteran, of the fighting 25th INFANTRY, at GUADALCANAL, then you’ll all know what it takes. And once you evolve into an effective warrior, you can never return to what you were before. That book changed my life, and my views. And i’ve been preparing for what is comming, all my life. Vietnam was nothing but a livefire field trainning excercise. I’ve known most of my life that what is comming, was to occure. Don’t ask me to explain that, because I cant on any rational level.
It is resistance that gets this issues settled; not combat. Resistance. There are many ways to wage a war. Look at what has happened here in the past 30 years. We have been at war for a long time, and only a few on our side really knew it. they were label “conspiracy theorists”, “leftists”, and “radicals”… even by our own side. And that is a war, to be sure. As President Bush said “It sis a war of Ideologies”… and spin.
In order to win such a war we have to reclaim the moral authority. We have to expose the tactics of this war to the citizenry, for they are the unknowing soldiers already committed to the fight. We must never settle for or accomodate our own leaders when they help to secure a victory in the war, for the other side. We must see that for what it is; a glimpse into the treasonous character of that leader and an indication of what we can expect in the future.
But you are correct. It is long past time we stopped leading with out hearts. Direct action is way overdue if we ever hope to give anything more to our children than a life of servitude and submission.
We cannot allow ourselves the luxury of asking about the ramifications of our actions, we must just act, and leave it to whatever fate you believe to determine the outcome.
I JUST RECEIVED THIS DIRECTLY FROM FROM MY ALLY, MY COMRAD, STEVEN, AKA APPRITION. THIS IS VERY VERY WELL WRITTEN AND INSPIRING. aND HE WRITES THIS FROM HIS HEART.
i PRESENT TO ALL OF YOU HIS WORDS HERE.
Forced myself to watch the RNC hypocrisy last night with the help of Mylanta and Corona beer.
Very disturbing to see so many “sheeple” enthusiastically cheering for their own demise.
The same narcissistic culture of corruption’s drill and kill, lies, more criminal wars, more grotesque war profiteering, economic “terrorism”, the sacrifice of freedom for “security” and destruction of the Constitutional Republic, all in the name of “god”.
I remember when Palin was the corrupted Mayor of Wasilla (she paid $150.000 for the forepaws of dead wolves). Since predators are necessary to ensure the health of wild game meat, the adolescent slaughter of wolves and brown bears contaminates the idiot’s own food supplies.
How’s that for a Darwin Award?
I made the mistake of working for some racist dimwits in Wasilla 3 years ago and still haven’t been paid for honest hard work. Never saw so many crystal meth addicts, crack heads, alcoholics, illiterate ignorants, racist bible thumpers, social diseases from Fifth Avenue Hookers and lazy assholes in my life. I actually had to smack a few jerks across their crackbrain heads for trying to steal my old Chevy.
Found sanctuary from them inside of Fort Richardson.
Resentment for intellect is alive and well there and it’s rare to find anyone with a unrevoked drivers license. As a matter of fact, anyone with a clean driving record is suspected of being a “snitch for the Feds”. Hell, the Darwins will marry their own sisters and fuck a Moose just to procreate misbegotten offsprings for welfare checks.
Trust me. Wasilla is NOT the best part of Alaska.
The only thing that got me through last nights RNC was the reassuring thought that conscription is the only “social program” of substance those clueless “Yee Haws” will ever have to look forward to. I don’t like to sound mean spirited but only the military draft could cure their chickenhawk apathy.
If that pair (McSame/Palin) gets (s)elected, a lot of people (including veterans) are preparing to leave the United Police State to live like Americans elsewhere and I’m just one of them. World War III is right around the corner and the civilized world will have no choice but to retaliate against the false flag “terrorism” of the “neoconsevative” sub-culture.
In real life, the only “god” the neocruds talk to is the “god” of darkness. I will never fight for them or their bogus “media”.
1SAM 15:3 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass”
Count me out of that genocidal insanity!
Steven
THIS IS PART II OF WHAT STEVE HAS WRITTEN.
AGAIN, I PRESENT YOU WITH HIS THOUGHTS, HIS KNOWLEDGE, AND WISDOM
Said Steven Smith:
I’m a Cambodia era Air Force Veteran from a family with a military history that started from my late Father’s participation of the invasion of Iwo Jima. I love America more than my life and every young man and woman in the military community is my brother and sister.
We swear a sacred oath to defend and protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. We do not swear an oath to protect the obscene profits of oil companies or evil men.
In real life, the harvested oil would not be refined until at least 20 years and it would be consumed in less than 6 months, assuming that the current rate of consumption of 7.56 billion barrels/year does not increase from population growth.
Of course the real reason for high oil prices is because of Bush himself. Oil prices have increased by over 700% during his “tenure” because Bush deregulated oil and energy speculations in the stock markets to enrich himself and his oil cronies. Lest we forget Cheney’s Secret Energy Task Force Meetings and Enron Scandals shortly after these “neoconservatives” were appointed into office over 8 years ago. The other reason for high gas prices is because Bush’s 5 + trillion dollar Iraq Holocaust has de-valued the dollar.
The “neoconservative” culture of corription proposes to permanently contaminate America’s coastal waters and Alaska’s National Wildlife Refuge with toxic waste just to enrich oil robber barons. And the tragically ill informed sheeple are still naive enough to believe that “savings” from this will be passed on to them at the gas pumps.
Humans are part of the same food chain as ANWR’s diverse wildlife. So, what happens to ANWR will eventually happen to people. The toxic waste deposited into America’s already unhealthy coastal shelves will devastate the already crippled fishing industry and marine wildlife.
The “neocruds are peddling more lies, invasions of more sovereign nations, more criminal wars, more obscene War profiteering, more economic “terrorism”, the sacrifice of freedom for “security” and the destruction of the Constitutional Republic, all in the name of “God”.
If that pair (McSame/Palin) gets (s)elected, a lot of people (including veterans) are preparing to leave the customized United Police States to live like Americans elsewhere and I’m just one of them. World War III is right around the corner and the civilized world will have no choice but to retaliate against the false flag “terrorism” perpetrated by the ”neoconsevative” sub-culture.
In real life, the only “god” the neocruds talk to is the “god” of darkness. I will never fight for them or their bogus “media”. The “neoconservative” charade is dumber than a science fiction B movie. The sleazy media’s coverage of the RNC can rub and spin all they want but bovine excrement can never be polished. Worst excuse for human beings I have ever seen.
After 8 years of this criminal bullshit, ignorant sheeple still want more of it?
700% increase in oil prices since the inauguration of oil robber barons, censorship of alternative, renewable energy sources, amoral invasions of sovereign nations and resource theft, 1,200,000 innocent men, women, children and babies raped, tortured, butchered and murdered, thousands of defrauded dead soldiers, tens of thousands more defrauded soldiers to die horribly from depleted uranium poisoning, glorification of the disgusting practice of unmentionable acts of torture, media lies and censorship, obscene war profiteering, epic environmental decay, pervasive racism and scapegoating, destruction of America’s Constitutional Republic, irreparable alienation of friends and allies, millions of jobs “outsourced” & lost, the worst foreclosure crisis in US history, more homeless Veterans, more tax cuts for the super wealthy, blind unconditional allegiance to the rogue state of Israel and the stupid drunken manchild, Bush, brags about what a good ole’ time
he is havin’ with no accountability whatsoever.
I feel alone in a hostile environment with no kindred souls.
I doubt that sheeple will ever be able to see beyond the nose on their face anymore. I have tried so hard with them but there is a certain type of element that is not reseptive to logic or critical thinking anymore, especially when that logic is critical of their “fuhrer”.
I do not subscribe to superstitions there is something demonic about Bush Republicans. It is very annoying when sheeple are so preoccupied with the trivial physical appearance of skin color that they cannot hear what you are saying.
I am a man of color, Cherokee, Seminole, Black and Irish. If I could go back to be re-born as anyone whom I chose to be, I would want to be the same man that I am. It’s not that I’m conceited or anything like that. I am merely thankful for the way the Almighty Spirit made me because people reveal the true content of their character (or lack there of) to me a lot faster than they would if I were a white man. Therefore, I waste less of my time with jerks while they rapidly age.
It’s unbelievable how many idiots are intimidated or jealous of something so trivial as my physical appearance in the 21st century. I still get hassled by people who underestimate my age or try to make their hormone problems into my problem. I have dealt with lots of bigoted Republicans here in northwest Washington who have no respect for privacy, life or land. They resent intellect, art, beauty, and science.
My late wife was a lovely German lady who tried to find good in everyone regardless of who they were. We were a quiet country couple who minded our own business, helped people and only asked to be left alone.
We were chased, stalked, sexually harassed and burglarized so much that we had to move 9 times in 20 years and file numerous restraining orders. She died on our 20th anniversary, nearly 6 years ago.
I still love America more than my life which is why I can no longer live in it, because of what it has become. The sacrifice of our Constitutional Republic and freedoms for fear.
Being an empath, the presence of Bush Republicans makes me physically ill. It’s almost as if they have been spiritually possesed. No conscience whatsoever about the destruction of over 6 million innocent men, women and children with a $5,000,000,000 dollar debt for criminal warfare to burden unborn future generations. No conscience.
None.
Far too many have lost their lives because of greedy evil men but right wingnut sheeple have lost something much more.
They have lost their souls.
Ironic is it not, that when Bush was Governor of Texas he enthusuastically signed the death warrants of 152 people, including the first woman to be put to death like that. He even mocked her. He put more people to death than any Governor in American history.
So, let the sheeple have their “opinions”.
They will always believe that if Bush were removed from office the “terrorist’s” will win. Apparently they believe Bush is a “honorable man”, although Iraq had nothing to do with “9/11″ the Iraq Holocaust is completely justified, tax cuts for Exxon and tax breaks for the super wealthy is good economics, torture is only torture when another country does it, environmental concerns are mere “conspiracy theories” and even though Iran has not invaded anyone for over 300 years, it poses a direct threat to the U.S. with Bush’s version of “nookyalar weapons”.
It’s within the rights of sheeple to be armchair commandos, Members of the Second Battalion, 4th Keyboard Green Berets and “Faux Fear Nutwork” Zombies.
Seriously, it is shameful to see sycophantic chickenhawks like Reps Lamar Smith and Dan Lungren place their unconditional allegiance to Bush at any cost before any allegiance to our Constitution, Country or any kind of integrity whatsoever.
What would it take to Impeach the likes of them, starting with Pelosi?
Founding fathers like Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and many others warned about the crucial need to separate church from state. When fear driven fanatism is involved, the tyranny will destroy any Constitutional Republic.
There is a certain type of element/culture that became pervasive after the “Reagonomics” era. No respect for privacy, land or life. Everything they say involves the words “I”, “me” and “mine”, the proclivity to recklessly consume and destroy, self gratification, gluttony, greed, jealousy, myopia, hegemony, exploitation, xenophobia, racism, narcissism, insufferable selfishness, the need to be seen and heard, hypocricy and laziness. In other words… CONTEMPORARY REPUBLICANS! The worst excuse for human beings I have ever seen.
They sometimes make me regret ever wearing a uniform.
And McCain has the temerity to ‘politicize’ the tragedy of 9/11 and his special treatment at the Hanoi Hilton? What the hell is wrong with sheeple?
After this senile 72 year old man dies, a “Christian Jihadist”, Palin, will be president during World War III.
If sheeple really that stupidly dumbed down from the Fox Fear Nutwork, I cannot wait until McSame drafts their sorry butts into the military community!
It’s become humiliating to be on the same planet with a “culture” like that (to say nothing of being in the same “country” with them)!
The Constitutional Republic has been destroyed because critical thinking was replaced with fear.
The 9/11 scam has been used as an excuse for fascist tyranny, plain and simple. Who has profited from it, both politically and financially?
The sloppy, ruthless criminality of Bush&Co is perfectly consistent with the sloppy, ruthless criminality of 9/11. The only “product” they have left to sell is more “fear” to the gullible.
History is replete with the fact that sheep are always led to the slaughter. With no Constitutional Republic or rule of law to protect them, fear driven sheeple who cannot or will not think critically will be destroyed.
The Constitutional Republic and rule of law can only be reaquired by patriots who cherish it and place their allegiance to America above any political party, foreign government or oil company.
Thank You.
I think the only resistence that is taking place is the resistence to except the enivitible combat that is comming brother. What we just witnessed occuring in DEN and MSP is a warnning. All it will take to ignite this explosion is the right combination of individuals and the right situation all comming together. When we see this JOHN BROWN incident occure, Im taking to field. Im not sittin around here waitin. My shit is already prepositioned. Im lookin for it on the day of the great election, or shortly there after. My Air N.G.contact advises the consensus in their organazation is, the Israeli’s will strike if Obama gets it because they’ll fear their window of opportunity may be lost through him, so they’ll strike Iran while Bush is still inpower so as to bring to immediate bear their protection where as, if McCAIN gets in, Israel can stand down, and wait. For surley, they know, where his convictions lie. On the other hand, there is no way to predict Obama’s reaction. So if Barak gets it, they (ang)think then, it’ll be on. We have to take that for what its worth.
No amount of resistence will help then.
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Sign the petition and tell these Jewish Chabad Lubavitcher and Christian Evangelists cultists and nut cases to build their “Stairway to Heaven” out of prayer and not out of the charred, radioactive corpses of billions of human beings.
Historian Demands Action on Powerful Doomsday Cults
Henry Makow Ph.D.
A Munich-based historian Wolfgang Eggert, 46, has launched an Internet petition to demand action on powerful Jewish and Christian cults that want to instigate a nuclear holocaust to fulfill Biblical prophesy.
Now this doomsday-cabal is promoting a war against Iran – with the clear intention of dragging Russia into the final battle of the Apocalypse “Gog versus Magog” and leading the battle towards its climax on the battlefield of Armageddon in the Middle East. We shouldn’t be surprised if President Mahmud Ahmadinejad in Teheran joins in the last act of this Biblical drama, as he too is a believer in the coming of a heavenly Messiah, as are his supporters. Final precondition to this “heavenly liberation act”: the start of the Third World War. Prominent White House critics in the USA (amongst them Senators and Congressmen) already point to the danger of a staged nuclear attack which would provoke this war and initiate a process of mass murder.
Now this doomsday-cabal is promoting a war against Iran – with the clear intention of dragging Russia into the final battle of the Apocalypse “Gog versus Magog” and leading the battle towards its climax on the battlefield of Armageddon in the Middle East. We shouldn’t be surprised if President Mahmud Ahmadinejad in Teheran joins in the last act of this Biblical drama, as he too is a believer in the coming of a heavenly Messiah, as are his supporters. Final precondition to this “heavenly liberation act”: the start of the Third World War. Prominent White House critics in the USA (amongst them Senators and Congressmen) already point to the danger of a staged nuclear attack which would provoke this war and initiate a process of mass murder.
He thinks religious fanatics must be exposed and removed from power. He points to the Jewish Chabad Lubavitcher sect who want to hasten Armageddon to facilitate the intervention of the Messiah. Eggert quotes a Lubavitcher rabbi who says:”the world is waiting for us to fulfill our role in preparing the world to greet Moshiach” (i.e. Messiah.)
Their members include Paul Wolfowitz, the architect of the Iraq War which began with an attack named after a Cabalist diety, “Shekinah” (”Shock and Awe”). Especially worrisome now is Chabadnik Joe Lieberman who visited Israel in March with his buddy John McCain. There is concern over Sen. Carl Levin who is Chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Other prominent Orthodox Jews who might be part of this cult include Bush Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff and former Pentagon Controller Dov Zakheim, implicated in the disappearance of “trillions” of dollars…..
You know Greg, Willy, Ill freely admit, im the dumbest sonofibitch here. I got no real problem with that. Intellectual Guys like you, and others, are all we got to move forward with. Your what is gonna pull us back up to our capibillities. You know that, I know that. I don’t want you to have to be subjected to what I personally know about close in combat. It will fuck you up, and alter your intectuallity, that we can’t afford to loose. I salute all of you out there in the political arena in your attempts to head us all off from the abyss. Let me assure you I will never make any move until such a time as you and your types say that the time of diplomacy has come to and end. Don’t underestimate how combat effective we out here will be. Rest assured that were here for you, for what thats worth. Don’t let my negitives ever effect your motivation to keep pluging away in the manner your attempting. YOUR WAY IS BEST! I think the failure is in the other side comming to terms that the same entity that defeated the Brittish 200 years ago, is present today. An as I truly beleive, in my secret heart, that the first elements that get fielded, will not survive but, I also beleive, once we begin our delaying action, to what, I can’t tell. but I firmly beleive that someone, something will arrive in the nic of time, something positive when hope is nearly lost, and the day will be saved, which will then enable your kind to help rebuild. You have your job, I got mine. Don’t criticise me for expressing my true feelings . The inevitible failure I so often reflect upon, is not in you willy, greg, it is in the other side. When they get a dose of the level of weaponary in possession by todays minute men, they’ll get one hell of an education. That I promise you my brothers. Because with our stuff, were gonna take their stuff.
We got boys and girls well versed in the operation and maintanence of every piece of eqpt they got in their enventory. And we all already had basic trainning. they gave it to us for free. Remember what Princess leah said to Darth Vader “The thighter you squeeze your grip!!, The more systems that will slip through your fingers”!!! She also said “I thought I smelled your foul stench when i was brought aboard” I just couldn’t use that one here.
Scott Humphrey, and Steve, and Greg, and Willyloman
Sometime last night (while trying to sleep) it occured to me that fear is driving the neocons,,,,, fear of not being ‘of God’ or not being at the right place at the right time. You have to listen to them and watch their faces… I wondered about their drawn and forced smiles…. eyes that appear haunted
as they cheered the insame leaders…. fear will do that… drive you insane beyond any reasonable thoughts.
They really think the world might end….. the warming, the turbulent weather, asteroid warnings, so many outbreaks of disease, so many people starving, countries threatening great wars….. the churches (maybe not all of them) preach that in order to go to heaven one must think, act, and follow God’s commandants…… Israel is taking advantage of that and probably believing that if the world ends… maybe only Israel will survive… supposingly the favored of God. So, to keep in good standing with God, the neocons proclaim their love of Israel and will protect it against all enemies…. they want to go to heaven… it is the only future any one has… and if the world doesn’t end, then their allegience to God is what saved them. They have trapped themselves by fear. Most of them are not stupid…. but they are ignoring the words of God and Jesus and other prophets who tell us ‘do not kill’, “love your neighbor’; Jesus lead his followers, but he is the one who suffered,; he asked nothing of them that he himsself did not do; he fed the masses with loaves of bread (he did not just feed the rich or his choosen 12); he sought out those in need and helped them; he taught those who had committed social errors how to correct themselves and he forgave them;
these neocons are being lead by fear; and they are traveling toward spiritual destruction because all they can see is a small hope that maybe God will favor them if they murder and steal for the sake of pleasing Israel. Jesus was the modern (for those days) message of God…… he did not instruct his followers to kill, to rage war, or to steal; he taught to care for all, to have respect for the vessels (our bodies) that God gave us….. he said we are all one…… in other words, Bush kills his own kin when he prolongs the war….. he kills himself…. the neocons are afraid to act… most have thoughts that maybe they are following insanity…. but they are so afraid they will not go to heaven.
Sorry about the rambling…. thought about erasing this but then I said … no….
I believe God wants us to care about each other and to develop the greatest gift he gave us… our minds…. we have olympics for our endurance and strenght and ‘he’ must laugh at that.. because we have no olympics for his most favored gift…. in fact we seem to make fun of it and our leaders make money off drugs that cripple young people’s mind….. and then we treat them cruelly…… we spit in God’s face…..
OK… I’m finished….
BTW, Scott H., I liked reading your rambings (as you call them).
Wish you had a movie to watch…. you can watch it on your computer….. get you all relaxed… laugh at something…. get well….
You speak very eloquent…
“.. YOUR WAY IS BEST!”
With that, Scott, I disagree. My way is sitting behind a computer keyboard, typing out rants that go nowhere.
I believe the US is way past the time to write your Congressperson, which I have many times, only to get some bullshit letter back, when they even answered, some BS letter that completely ignored my original letter.
Signing petitions isn’t much better, but it’s something.
The Democrats proved in spades in the Fall of 2006 and since, that they are in bed with the Neocons and Zionist nut cases who want perpetual war, to please their benefactor, Israel and to fatten their stock options.
They have no conscience or morals about killing millions of people and use the bible in a sick and twisted way–like John Hagee–to justify what they do for their version of god.
The time is coming, maybe soon, when all good men and women will need to come to the aid of their country.
When that happens, my AK47 will be there and I’ll give it my best shot… or shots. I figure I can get off about half a clip before being turned into a piece of Swiss cheese.
As soon as Americans wake up and realize that our country has been taken over by a bunch of liars, thieves and murderers, the sooner we’ll be able to expunge this dreaded virus that is threatening to wipe mankind off the face of the earth.
First off Greg, it’s not a clip, its a magizine. M1 GARRANDS expelled clips after the last round was fired. Those were clips. You insert a 20 rd magizine in that AKM. Just so you know that. It’s no big deal, really.
Your no good dying. The object is to survive. To do that, you gotta be smart. No gung ho shit. Thats for the movie stars in Hollywood. You gotta learn how to be effective. To be effective, you gotta keep your kool, and not get paniced. If your out numbered, you gotta use the terrian to your advantage. You can use brush, certain types of antipersonel divices to direct your targets into your selected field of fire. People are basiclly lazy and if you use obsticals, that can’t be overcone, then the target will look for ways around this obstruction. If hoe goes the wrong way, make him pay dearly with antipersonal divices that will force him back the oppisite direction into your kill zone. An effective kill zone, of field of fire as it’s called in the business is as follows. your lieing prone, facing forward to your twelve oclock position, the left boundary of your field of fire is, say, eleven oclock. your right boundary is one oclock. now, no mstter what, you do not engadge in any target outside those left or right boundaries. Understand? The friendly to your immediate right flank, his left boundary is essentially, your one oclock. he is not going to engadge any targets inside your field of fire. you two share a boundary. Do you understand that principal? You see what is happening here? Your covering your forward area with multible effective fields of fire but you two are each responsible only for a small portion of the battle field. That way, your not getting spread thin, your not wasting ammo, and your combat effective to the extent of your available man power. Of course, your not going to have two guys take on fifty. Two guys CAN take on fifty, but not under this situational tactic. Bear in mind also, this is deffense in nature. and there is a counter attack associated the moment you break the oppones will to continue pressing his offensive move against your position. FIELDS OF PRESELECTED, CONTROLED FIRE. DRAW IT OUT ON PAPER AND YOU’LL SEE IT. THE THINNER YOUR LINE, THE WIDER THE ARC OF COVERAGE. THE MORE SATURATED YOUR LINE IS, THE NARROWER YOUR ARC IS.
QUESTIONS??? END OF BASIC LESSON ONE.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THE NEXT LESSON KEEP THIS THOUGHT FOREMOST AT THE FRONT OF YOUR MIND! YOU DON’T WIN IN COMBAT BY DYING. YOU WIN IN COMBAT BY KILLING!
ANY IDIOT CAN GO OUT AND DIE. DIEING IS EASY. KILLING IS AN ART. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY TO EFFECTIVELY CLOSE WITH AND DESTROY AN ENEAMY. FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE BELEIFE IN YOUR CAUSE. BUT, WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE EXCEPTED INTERNATIONAL RULES OF ARMED CONFLICT. THAT IS ANOTHER LESSON ENTIRLY. SECONDLY IS, YOU GOT TO POSSESS THE NECESSARY SKILL TO USE YOUR WEAPON EFFECTIVELY. THIRD, YOU GOT TO ACQUIRE THE KILLERS STATE OF MIND. IT USE TO BE CALLED “KILL OR BE KILLED”. BUT MORE IS REQUIRED HERE FOR YOU , IN THIS UNIQUE SITUATION. IT’S DIFFICULT TO PUT INTO WORDS
BUT YOU ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS. YOU HAVE GOT TO SET ASSIDE THAT BRED IN MENTALLITY, THAT VALUE WERE ALL TAUGHT, THAT HUMAN LIFE IS VALUABLE, AND TO TAKE A LIFE, TO DESTROY A HUMAN BEING, TO END HIS LIFE, THAT THAT IS WRONG, IS ACTUALLY CORRECT, BUT ONLY IN A PERFECT WORLD. WE UNFORTUNATLY, ARE NOT LIVING IN THAT PERFECT WORLD. THAT WORLD NEVER ACTUALLY EVER EXISTED EXCEPT IN OUR MINDS, OUR DESIRES. WE ARE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE THERE ARE TERRIBLE INDIVUALS THAT HAVE DEMONSTRATEDE A WILLINGNESS TO, IN ONE DAY, ON 11 SEPTEMBER OF TWO THOUSAND AND ONE, THE INTENTIONAL MURDER OF OVER FOUR THOUSAND INNOCENT LIVING SOULS. THIS ENEAMY HAS DEMONSTRATED A COLD HEARTED WILLINGNESS TO MURDER INNOCENT CHILDREN, WOMEN, AND ELDERLY. AND THEIR COMMING FOR YOU PEOPLE AND THEIR GOING TO SEND YOU TO THE HERE AFTER AND WILL NOT LOOSE A MOMENTS SLEEP AT YOUR DEMISE. THEY DO THIS FOR POWER, AND TREASURE. TO DOMINATE OVER THE WORLD, AND THEY MUST BE STOPPED. AND TO STOP THEM, YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO KILL THEM. BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T, THEIR GOING TO KILL YOU, YOUR CHILDRE, YOUR GRAND PARENTS, YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, YOUR MOTHERS AND FATHERS. SO YOU’VE GOT TO ACQUIRE THE SAME KILLING INSTINCT NECESSARY TO FACE THEM, IN COMBAT, AND TOTALLY DESTROY THEM. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. IF ANY OF YOU FAIL TO COME TO TERMS WITH THAT TRUTH, TO EXCEPT THIS FOUL REALITY THAT IS STANDING BEFORE YOU, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO DIE!!! ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!! YOU WILL DIE, AND DIEING IS FOREVER. YOUR MOTHER DOES NOT WANT YOU TO DIE! YOU MOTHER WANTS ALL OF YOU TO LIVE!! IN ORDER TO LIVE, YOUR GOING TO DESTROY YOUR ENEAMY!! THATS WHAT YOUR MOTHERS WANT YOU TO DO. TO DESTROY THIS FOUL MURDERIOUS ENEAMY THAT IS AMONG US! IF ANY AMONG YOU FAIL TO HEED YOUR MOTHERS WARNNING, YOUR GOING TO DIE! I PUT THIS QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU NOW. HOW CAN MEN WHO FIGHT FOR GREED POSSIBLE DEFEAT THOSE WHO FIGHT FOR THEIR FREEDOM? fREEDOM HAS BEEN CHALLANGED MANY TIMES IN HISTORY. AND FREEDOM HAS ALWAYS PREVAILED AS IT WILL IN THIS INSTANCE. AND FREEDOM WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL BECAUSE FREEDOM LOVING INDIVIDUALS HAVE ALWAYS COME FORWARD AND MET THOSE CHALLANGES AND DESTROYED THOSE WHO WOULD ABOLISH FREEDOM. AND WE COLLECTIVELY WILL FACE THIS LATTEST CHALLANGE TO FREEDOM, AND SEND IT BACK TO THE FIRERY PIT OF HELL FROM WHENCE IT CAME.
Uuuummm, oooh kay. next lesson. Jan, tell the class what you learned recently about field expedient anti personel devices. I know you were paying attention because you found the idea totally revolting. that is what combat is, revolting. but setting that issue asside, jan, tell everyone what you learned two weeks ago. explain how to construct them, and from what materials are required.
Scott Humphrey, you have too much faith in me…. I don’t remember….. I see you are very serious about this ‘fighting’ and protecting stuff…….. I can understand your above theory… like cutting a pie…. and the center is ground zero…or your ‘firing from space’; I just don’t see city dwellers having that advantage of space… well… OK… if one sees buildings as simply space and …. but when you shoot at someone and the bullet misses.. it travels on until it is stopped by something or maybe an innocent someone…. noooooo … I don’t like killing…..
I DON’T LIKE KILLING EITHER JAN BUT ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2001, OVER FOUR THOUSAND INNOCENT PERPLE WERE MURDERED. THEY DIDN’T LIKE KILLING EITHER JAN AND FURTHER MORE, THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE ACT OF KILLING. IF THESE DEAD INNOCENTS COULD SPEAK TO US TODAY, WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT KILLING, AND MURDER? THIS IS THE POINT TO MY THEORY, YOU HAVE TO SET ASSIDE THE INGRAINNED BELEIFS WE HAVE ALL BEEN TAUGHT SINCE BIRTH, THAT KILLING IS MORALLY WRONG. IT IS MORALLY WRONG. WHAT OCCURED ON 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 WAS MORALLY WRONG TO THE TEN THOUSANDTH POWER. THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THE PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW WHO ORCHASTRATED THIS, IF THERE IS TO BE A FAILURE OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IS TO SET ASSIDE OUR MORAL CONVICTIONS AND ADAPT TO A WILLINGNESS TO SEEK OUT AND DESTROY THIS ENEAMY IN COMBAT. IN ORDER TO PREVAIL IN THIS CONFRONTATION, YOU-MUST-KILL-THE-THE-ENEAMY! THERE ARE NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVES! THE ENEAMY WE FACE HAS ADAPTED TO THE MOST BARBARIC TACTIC’S KNOWN TO CIVILIZED SOCIETY, AND THAT IS COLD BLOODED SNEAK UP BEHIND YOU MURDER! THIS MONSTER ONLY HAS ONE OBJECTIVE. AND THAT IS TO KILL YOU! THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SURVIVE IN THE FACE OF THIS THINKING, IS TO KILL THE ENEAMY! IF YOU HESITATE FOR ONE SECOND, DEBATING THE MORAL RIGHT OR WRONG OF THIS NECESSARY EVIL, YOU WILL BE PERMANANTLY DEAD! AND DEAD IS FOREVER PEOPLE! THAT DEBATE WILL BE SETTLED! CASE CLOSED! DEAD IS DEAD! GO ASK THE VICTIMS OF 11 SEPTEMBER 2001 WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT DEATH! AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO, WHEN THIS EVIL ENEAMY KILLS YOU BECAUSE THEN,,,,,YOU’LL BE SITTING THERE WITH ALL THEM VICTIMS OF 11 SEPTEMBER 2001, ON THE SIDE OF A NICE HILL SOMEWHERE AND DEBATE THAT ISSUE WITH THEM FOR ALL OF ETERITY.
THOS IS FIELD MANUAL 7-8 WHICH CAN BE GOOGLED AND READ ENTIRLY
*FM 7-8
FIELD MANUAL
NO. 7-8 HEADQUARTERS
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
Washington, DC, 22 April 1992
FM 7-8
INFANTRY RIFLE PLATOON AND SQUAD
IMPORTANT
U.S. Army Infantry School Statement on
U.S. NATIONAL POLICY CONCERNING ANTIPERSONNEL LAND MINES
Table of Contents
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CHANGE 1
Preface
Chapter 1 – DOCTRINE
Section I – Fundamentals
1-1. Mission
1-2. Combat Power
1-3. Leader Skills
1-4. Soldier Skills
1-5. Training
Section II – Platoon Operations
1-6. Movement
1-7. Offense
1-8. Defense
1-9. Security
Chapter 2 – OPERATIONS
Section I – Command and Control
2-1. Mission Tactics
2-2. Troop-Leading Procedure
2-3. Operation Order Format
Section II – Security
2-4. Security During Movement
2-5. Security in the Offense
2-6. Security in the Defense
Section III – Movement
2-7. Fire Team Formations
2-8. Squad Formations
2-9. Platoon Formations
2-10. Movement Techniques
2-11. Actions at Danger Areas
Section IV – Offense
2-12. Movement to Contact
2-13. Deliberate Attack
2-14. Attacks During Limited Visibility
Section V – Defense
2-15. Conduct of the Defense
2-16. Security
2-17. Command Post and Communications
2-18. Weapons Emplacement
2-19. Range Cards
2-20. Types of Positions
2-21. Squad Positions
2-22. Platoon Positions
2-23. Sector Sketches
2-24. Fire Control Measures
2-25. Priority of Work
2-26. Coordination
2-27. Fighting Positions
Section VI – Other Operations
2-28. Withdrawal
2-29. Delay
2-30. Retirement
2-31. Linkup
2-32. Stay-Behind Operations
2-33. Relief in Place
Section VII – Fire Support
2-32. Offensive Fire Support Planning
2-33. Defensive Fire Support Planning
2-34. Techniques of Indirect Fire Control
Section VIII – Combat Service Support
2-35. Planning of Combat Service Support
2-36. Resupply Operations
2-37. Resupply Techniques
2-38. Aerial Resupply
2-39. Maintenance
2-40. Transportation
2-41. Soldier’s Load
2-42. Personnel Service Support
2-43. Health Services Support
Section IX – Armored Vehicle Support
2-44. Combined Operations With Armored Vehicles
2-45. Considerations
2-46. Communicating With Tanks
2-47. Infantry Riding on Armored Vehicles
Section X – Obstacles
2-48. Employing Obstacles
2-49. Types of Obstacles 2
2-50. Enemy Obstacles
2-51. Breaching and Clearing Obstacles
Section XI – Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Operations
2-52. Operating in a Nuclear Environment
2-53. Operating in a Chemical and Biological Environment
Section XII – Observation Posts
2-54. Considerations
2-55. Actions at the Observation Post
2-56. Squad-Sized Observation Post
2-57. Visual Terrain Search
Section XIII – Techniques of Fire
2-58. Fire Distribution
2-59. Fire Control
2-60. Methods of Engagement With LAW and AT4
Section XIV – Limited Visibility Techniques
2-61. Night Vision
2-62. Dark Adaptation
2-63. Planning the Use of Night Vision/Sensor Assets
2-64. Night Operation Tips and Techniques
Chapter 3 – PATROLLING
Section I – Planning Considerations
3-1. Organization 3
3-2. Initial Planning and Coordination
3-3. Completion of the Plan
3-4. Departure From Friendly Lines
3-5. Rally Points
3-6. Leader’s Reconnaissance of the Objective
3-7. Reentry of Friendly Lines
3-8. Debriefing
Section II – Reconnaissance Patrol
3-9. Organization
3-10. Tasks to Subordinate Units
3-11. Area Reconnaissance
3-12. Zone Reconnaissance
3-13. Route Reconnaissance
Section III – Combat Patrol
3-14. Organization
3-15. Tasks to Subordinate Units
3-16. Leader’s Reconnaissance of the Objective
3-17. Ambush
3-18. Hasty Ambush
3-19. Deliberate Ambush
3-20. Point Ambush
3-21. Area Ambush
3-22. Antiarmor Ambush
3-23. Raid
Section IV – Tracking Patrol
3-24. Considerations
3-25. Organization
3-26. Tasks to Subordinates
3-27. Training
3-28. Intelligence
3-29. Trail Signs
Section V – Patrol Bases
3-30. Site Selection
3-31. Planning Considerations
3-32. Patrol Base Occupation
3-33. Patrol Base Activities
Chapter 4 – BATTLE DRILLS
4-1. Definition
4-3. Format
Battle Drill 1. Platoon Attack
Battle Drill 1A. Squad Attack
Battle Drill 2. React to Contact
Battle Drill 3. Break Contact
Battle Drill 4. React to Ambush
Battle Drill 5. Knock Out Bunkers
Battle Drill 6. Enter Building/Clear Room
Battle Drill 7. Enter/Clear a Trench
Battle Drill 8. Conduct Initial Breach of a Mined Wire Obstacle
Chapter 5 – INFANTRY PLATOON STANDING OPERATING PROCEDURE
* Chapter 6 – URBAN OPERATIONS
Appendix A – ORGANIZATION
Appendix B – INFANTRY PLATOON REFERENCE GUIDE
Glossary
References
DA Form 5517-R
Authorization Letter
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DISTRIBUTION RESTRICTION — Approved for public release; distribution is unlimited.
*This publication supersedes FM 7-8, 31 December 1980; FM 7-70, 10 September 1986.
last modified: 27-04-2005 13:11:29 Zulu
GOGGLE FM 90-10-1 VERY IMPORTANT READING THE LATEST WRITTEN THEORIES RELATIVE TO FIGHTING IN URBAN AREAS KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW
FM 90-10-1 – An Infantryman’s Guide to Combat in Built-Up Areas – ENLISTED.INFO
September 07, 2008
Field Manual 90-10-1 – An Infantryman’s Guide to Combat in Built-Up Areas
Description: This manual provides the infantryman with guidelines and techniques for fighting against an organized enemy in built-up areas who may or may not be separated from the civilian population. Some techniques for dealing with insurgents, guerrillas, and terrorists are included; however, the manuals which best address these issues are FM 7-98 and FM 90-8. This manual does not address any techniques for missions that require the restoration of order to urban areas.
Table of Contents Change No. 1
Preface Chapter 1
Introduction
Chapter 2
Urban Analysis Chapter 3
Offensive Operations
Chapter 4
Defensive Operations Chapter 5
Fundamental Combat Skills
Chapter 6
Combat Support Chapter 7
Combat Service Support and Legal Aspects of Combat
Chapter 8
Employment and Effects of Weapons
Appendix
Appendix A Appendix B
Appendix C Appendix D
Appendix E Appendix F
Appendix G Appendix H
Appendix I Appendix J
Appendix K Appendix L
Appendix M Appendix N
Glossary References
Index Authorization Letter
© 2005 – 2007 ENLISTED.INFO. All Rights Reserved.
Isn’t that what people are doing now? Debating through out eternity?
Does that manual have any information about hiding in bed and sleeping through everything?
Don’t feel like trainning to kill or be killed on Sunday.
Didn’t know all that info was available for just anyone to read…. good grief….. can’t handle this…
F The Essence of Just War Theory
I. Jus Ad Bellum. — It is held that states are morally and legally bound not to war against one another unless certain criteria are met. It is up individual states (which at this level are conclusively presumed to reflect the collective will of their citizens) to determine before going to war that all these criteria have been met. It is assumed that states comprise people of goodwill who are generally unwilling to engage in the intentional infliction of deadly force against the citizens of another state unless truly justifiable to do so. Hence, all states’ citizens (including those who also happen to be in the armed forces) have, I submit, a duty to attempt to assure that jus ad bellum criteria are met. After all, once war begins governments and their people are at risk of serious harm. While there is not complete agreement on what the criteria of jus ad bellum are, I suggest that the following components are commonly accepted:
A. Just Cause. — The determination of just cause requires the balancing some values but rarely involves invoking arcane theories of justice. Just cause requires that we not put trivial preferences, insults to national pride, and even some gross violations of the law of nations above the duty to preserve peace rather than go to war. Obviously, it would not be just cause for war if our sole motivation were to assure an immediate end to the eating of blue cheese in France. Nor would it be just cause for the U.S. to go to war with Nepal merely if some American tourist were to be physically attacked by a Nepalese. For one thing, these are personal matters, not matters of state; but, even if a state might be implicated in such things, the purported wrongs could not justify war. Generally, the existence of the state or the lives of its citizens must be at stake. The “cause” would be “just” for us to engage another state in war if agents of that state (acting under color and scope of lawful authority) were to make a substantial attack of some sort which is deliberately designed to destroy or impair our state or significantly injure our citizenry. Indeed, self-defense is the only just cause for war that is formally recognized in modern international law. It is properly invoked to protect the integrity and fundamental nature of the state or the lives of its citizens when those are clearly threatened or attacked. This right of self-defense has often been construed to subsume the right to intervene in order to protect one’s “neighbor” and the right to punish states that do wrong.
B. Lawful Authority. — Since war is an organized activity of a state, it is essential that war be undertaken only with the proper authority of the entity that is, under that state’s own laws, granted the power to do so. This entity might a Queen or King, a President, or some other leader; or the entity might be some group. It depends upon the structure of the decision-making process in each state. In the United States of America, the lawful authority to commit our military to war vests solely and exclusively in the Congress. The President has the authority to decide how a war should be prosecuted once it begins and, by virtue of being the chief executive of our state, has an implied duty to assure that the sovereignty of the state and lives of citizens are protected. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 and Article 2, Section 2, of the Constitution, the War Powers Act of 1973 as well as custom, practice, and necessity are weighed here.
C. Just Intent. — This requires that the intent of going to war be to promote or secure peace, not merely to obtain revenge, wealth, or personal glory. Just intent is based on natural law and religious and secular values consistent with the Judeo-Christian ethic to “love thy neighbor.” The goal must be to do good, not harm. The firm commitment of a state to abide by all just war criteria evinces an intention to do that which is just.
D. Last Resort. — This criterion and the one which follows (reasonable hope of success) are in a real sense subordinate to just intent. After all, if a state undertakes war except as a last resort its intentions are certainly suspect. Basically, all states are deemed duty-bound to avoid the consequences of war if it is reasonably possible to do so. Good faith efforts to avoid war must be actively pursued, viz. negotiations should be engaged in, compromises sought, economic sanctions applied, appeals for reason made, cooling off periods taken, and peace-promoting activities by appropriate international bodies utilized in efforts to redress grievances before resort to war is justified.
E. Reasonable Hope of Success. — A hopeless war is deemed pointless and contrary to common sense and justice. It does not mean, however, that a state and its citizenry need meekly submit to the murderous exercise of raw power. An increase in public support from within and resources of allies might transform a hopeless undertaking into a reasonable one at some point. States are enjoined from going to war without reasonable hope of success because to do so would throw away the lives and resources of its citizens and risk destruction of the state.
II. Jus In Bello. — Right conduct during war is of singular importance to people in the armed forces. In my view, American armed forces have generally done a much better job of adhering to the spirit and requirements of jus in bello than states themselves have done in adhering to the spirit and requirements of jus ad bellum. (Many states tend to ignore their duties. The U.S. military normally honors its obligations.) One reason for this, I suggest, is that governments rarely, if at all, educate their citizens about prevailing just war theory or law of war conventions. On the other hand, Article 1 of Hague Convention IV of 1907 mandates that states “issue instructions to their armed forces which shall be in conformity with the regulations respecting the laws and customs of war on land.” Other conventions have similar mandates. In accordance with such mandates, we have Department of Defense Directive No. 5100.77 (December 9, 1998), etc., and various specific service directives designed to guarantee training to assure that our armed forces know their law of war obligations. These obligations are presented in various manuals, codes of conduct, and Rules of Engagement (ROE). All training manuals, codes of conduct, and ROE should, therefore, be in harmony with the two basic criteria of jus in bello.
A. Discrimination. — Warring parties are obligated to discriminate between an enemy’s armed forces and its civilian population. The principle of noncombatant immunity is largely premised on the notion that civilians not involved in supporting a state’s war effort should not be harmed. It is often difficult to determine, however, which civilians are immune. Those civilians who are directly involved in the war effort (such as being part of the war-planning process or working to produce war materials) can be treated as combatants, others generally not. Civilians who engage in activities which are primarily designed to aid other civilians do not lose their immunity simply because the activities indirectly aid the enemy forces. Accordingly, a civilian dairy farm, for example, should not be attacked merely because a state’s armed forces may drink some of the milk it produces. It is easy to see that the discrimination criteria of jus in bello can make targeting decisions problematic. It is much easier to determine when the armed forces of a warring state can be subjected to lethal force: at any time and any place they might be found so long as they have not surrendered, been captured, are injured, or are otherwise hors de combat. Civilians are not allowed to shield legitimate military targets and shed their immunity if they do so. However, under such circumstances there is a duty to give those civilians warning and an opportunity to flee from the target area if it is reasonably possible to do so. “Military necessity” should not be used as a mere excuse or rationale to attack noncombatants. That precept should be invoked only under extraordinary circumstances. Over the past few decades, the U.S. armed forces have attempted to be extremely careful in targeting decisions.
B. Proportionality. — The amount and type of force to be utilized in war should be the minimum necessary to end the war and secure peace. The good results which might be achieved through military action cannot be outweighed by the damage inflicted. For minimally desirable military ends, excessive destruction is not warranted. Undue collateral damage, whether attributable to lack of discrimination or lack of proportionality, might be construed to evince a murderous intent and should be assiduously avoided whenever possible. Once again, in recent years the U.S. armed forces have attempted to be extremely careful in weighing the proportionality of their acts, although the use of cluster bombs and depleted uranium has prompted warranted debate.
In truncated form, what we have is this:
Just War Criteria
Jus Ad Bellum
Just Cause
Lawful Authority
Just Intent
Last Resort
Reasonable Hope of Success
Jus In Bello
Discrimination (Noncombatant Immunity)
Proportionality (Amount and Type of Force Used)
w w w w w w w
When we examine historical events and realistic hypotheticals relating to war, we should evaluate them in light of these criteria. There are, of course, several aspects to each of the foregoing just war criteria; and, as our course proceeds, we will examine them. Furthermore, I suggest that we should always remain willing to challenge, replace, amend, add to, and otherwise refine these criteria.
Last revised: March 20, 2005
Last revised: October 7, 2003
I think I still remember a lot of my Light Weapons Combat Infantryman training Uncle Sam gave me which the 82nd Airborne helped refine in 1971-72.
And my AK is still in semi mode, as I have no wish to “spray and pray” and watch the AK’s muzzle creep out of the line of fire.
As for exotic weapons, some gasoline and styrofoam mixed together makes for a nice cocktail.
JAN, MURDERIOUS TYRANTS CONSPIRE AND COLLUDE ON SUNDAYS THE SAME AS THEY CONSPIRE AND COLLUDE ON THURSDAYS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK DICK CHANEY IS DOING RIGHT THIS MINUTE? HE KNOWS HIS BACK MAY SOON BE AGAINST THE WALL AND YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS HE IS CONSPIRING AND COLLUDEING AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN HOW TO PRESERVE HIS VERY ASS AND ADVOID ANY LEGAL ACCOUNTIBILLITY AND HE WILL CIRCUMVENT ANY LAW IN ORDER TO REALIZE THIS GOAL. AND THIS INCLUDES CIRCUMVENTION THAT WILL RESULT IN MORE DEATH AND DISTRUCTION TO INNOCENT PEOPLE!
Jan, don’t you fret over this. Your what were fighting for, so you may sit peacefully, and securily there in your home, and enjoy doing what ever you desire to do. Do you beleive me? do you trust me? I beleive in you Jan, and all others like you and I beleive you have the god goven right to happyness, peace and security, And im not going to rest until such a time as I am reasonably assured that all of you ladies rights to peacefull existence and security have been restored. I told you once before Jan, I was doing fun stuff. and I want to resume doing fun stuff instead of being pulled into this dirty business. But im afraid their not going to allow this. They have imposed themselves upon us uninvited, and disrupted all of our lives in our pursuit of lawfull peacefull activity. You beleive me, I hope Jan, when I tell you im not looking forward to this, and I have great hope that the likes of willyloman, and other’s like him will bring about a legal remedy that will allow an advoidance to the issues that I stand ready to wage war against. Thats the honest to god truth Jan. So help me.
AND ILL TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE GREG. GET JUMPER CABLES!! CHEAP ONES. LOTS OF THEM. AND WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, ILL TELLYOU WHAT TO DO WITH THEM!
AND REST ASSURED SIR, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MESSING WITH HIGH VOLTAGE CURRENT! bUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS, IT WILL HAVE A GREAT IMPACT! SO, START COLLECTING THEM. GOOD CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CLAMP,AND THE CABLE. SEPERATE THE THEM INTO TWO. THEY BE USED INDIVIDUALLY. IF YOU SEE THEM IN THE DUMPSTERS, GET THEM! YOU’LL NEED THEM. TRUST ME. BUT I CANT DISCLOSE THE WHY. BUT TRUST ME. IF YOU DON’T, LATTER, YOU’LL REGRET IT THAT YOU CAN’T DO WHAT I KNOW YOU CAN DO. IT’S A DISRUPTION TACTIC. THATS ALL I CAN SAY. IT WILL HAVE REGIONAL EFFECT! THE MORE PARTICIPANTS, THE GREATER THE REGIONAL EFFECT AND MULTI REGIONAL EFFECT. GET JUMPER CABLES.
Scott Humphrey, I took a nap and had an awful dream.
A friend and I were in an almost worn out black pick-up. He was driving. I noticed that we were traveling in the air ,in a straight forward line. I looked over and saw the road about twenty yards from us. It shocked me. Down below us was a deep drop about five city blocks straight down. I quietly asked my friend if we could make it back to the road. He didn’t say anything but he glanced at the road and started turning the truck toward the road. I woke up. So, I don’t know if we made it. I think it tells me how worried I am.
Yes, I believe you…. and I trust you will do nothing violent unless your life depends on it.
BTW… how is your ‘wound’? Is the pain going away? and the swelling? Only one day of antibiotics may not have made a noticable diference yet. I hope it has.
The darn cables…. now we have to split them? What if my little car needs a battery charge? I got to get more cables?
If we tape those cables together…. hmmmm and create a mile long rubbery rope….. Ha I got it! we could hold that long cable and make a run at a line of ‘whoever we are fighting’ and they would be knocked off their feet….. we would zip back and quickly wrap them up with the cable.
Guess you and Greg are glad I won’t be in your unit…. you would be so embarassed…. I can see you now…. turning your heads and pertending you don’t have any idea who that crazy old woman is.